If upper caste people who are less than 10% in India do not like reservations or to live with rest of the Indians, we are offering a separate state/nation to them. http://www.blogpoll.com/poll/view_Poll.php?type=java&poll_id=108166
RE:Enough
by west on Mar 31, 2007 08:46 AM Permalink
Today, India is so respectable in world NOT because of your so called pseudo secularist parsite leaders who existed last 60 years.... It's respectable because of the knowledge it has for the last thousands of years (which you are asking to leave now... you stupid and if you have guts ... ask your stupid leader why India is respectable in the world today.)
RE:Enough
by west on Mar 31, 2007 08:31 AM Permalink
Shame on you to ask the knowledge (which is feeding you and your family) to leave the country. If you really want the knowledge to leave ... make a public petition and see what's the support you get. It's a challenge!
RE:Enough
by west on Mar 31, 2007 08:14 AM Permalink
What's that you are waiting for to send the knowledgeable 3% out of India???? Carry on your leader's agenda... Send the 3% out of India ... and you remember my words whereever you are ... India will be no more India ... The greatness of India will be history. Ask your brave leaders to send the 3% out of India if your leaders have guts and really are Men. Nope ... they cannot send the 3% out because without them your brave leaders do not know even how to talk in public.
RE:Enough
by west on Mar 31, 2007 01:34 AM Permalink
Shame on you to say that you are an Indian and are asking for something for which you don't possess skills - that too at the cost of others.
RE:Enough
by m on Mar 31, 2007 11:55 AM Permalink
Sorru west. Too late now. Take up our generous offer and brace yourself. http://www.blogpoll.com/poll/view_Poll.php?type=java&poll_id=108166
Being a CM first try & respect the Apex Court,s Verdict.If you do not hv faith then quit Governance.It is such Irresponsible politicians who bring shame to our nation.Instead of protecting the apex court,s verdict you are instigating a Bundh.It is a criminal act to cause Crores of Rupees Loss & causing inconvenience to Public.India shd be ashamed to hv CMs like you.You are 80 pl hang up & go home
Reservations should be made based on one's financial status. And this survey has to be done on a systematic manner. A person declared OBC this year could become financially sound after few years and that is the time his OBC status should be stripped off. And due to extended families/new generation a new OBC candidate replaces him. This reservation should not be done based on CASTE / RELIGION. There are many Brahmins living in abject poverty and still could not make it to Medical / Engineering as they are FC. This evil system should disappear from the country. When western/arab countries blame India for their caste system, people converting to their religions calling themselves DALIT where there is no such caste in our religion. Hold your religion with pride and don't call yourself as any OBC community just to get quota seats. Government can create such database with the help of ration cards and individual's salary certificate and his assets. Faulters should be dealt with iron hands.
It is really insane to think that caste based quotas are going to save Hinduism. When you indirectly talk about the Christian communtiy converting the Hindus, with wat autority of proof do you say this. All information that you get in such regard is fake and untrue and just made up stories to benefit the dirty side of politics. Now lets do a comparision, lot of foreigners are converting to Hiduism, so are their countries setting up reservations to save Christianity or say their majority religion?? Come on people do not be narrow minded. You are actually pushing your self down into the dumps by asking reservation. You make me wonder as to whether you are a person of the modern age or date back to some primitive ages!! you have also mentioned that conversion is happening to the socially as well as 'religiously' opressed people...so you accept that you opress people of your own religion..get to terms with that first!! India is a democratic and secular country..learn to live with it..!!Dont make life a living hell to the others who think normally and otherwise as you!!
We should support caste-based quotas in every sphere to save Hinduism. That is the only way to stop the mass conversion of poor, lower caste Hindus. We all know the monetary benefits of conversion. In this age of globalization India is getting lot of attention of the international community. The negative side of such attention is that lot of people - we all know who they are - are suddenly discovering that India, with its huge population of poor, socially as well as religiously oppressed people, is a huge opportunity for conversion. What is worse is that such people have solid financial backings too.
RE:Support reservation, save Hinduism
by Nathan Akshith on Mar 30, 2007 07:39 PM Permalink
It is really insane to think that caste based quotas are going to save Hinduism. When you indirectly talk about the Christian communtiy converting the Hindus, with wat autority of proof do you say this. All information that you get in such regard is fake and untrue and just made up stories to benefit the dirty side of politics. Now lets do a comparision, lot of foreigners are converting to Hiduism, so are their countries setting up reservations to save Christianity or say their majority religion?? Come on people do not be narrow minded. You are actually pushing your self down into the dumps by asking reservation. You make me wonder as to whether you are a person of the modern age or date back to some primitive ages!! you have also mentioned that conversion is happening to the socially as well as 'religiously' opressed people...so you accept that you opress people of your own religion..get to terms with that first!! India is a democratic and secular country..learn to live with it..!!Dont make life a living hell to the others who think normally and otherwise as you!!
Here All Over India becoming Slave to American and WTO's Imperialism. All educated paople are becoming slaves to MNCs (IT,Technology). No made in India Technologies !!! All technologies are begged from MNCs !!!! All students from IIT and IIMS flies to abroad to become slaves of US,UK !!! Even though they funded by Govt funds(paople's taxes) they goes to settle in USA and UK!!!
Event hough these OBC are make use of Peoples money and fly to abroad !!! So there is a need of Self Fulfillment in Education like Russia(1917-1956) and China(upto 1970). Otherwise these reservations wont help!!!!
All are slaves under GATT of WTO Break it in the way of NewDemocracy !!! For further www.poar-parai.blogspot.com
How can those OBCs be compared on par with poor, backward OBCs in Bihar , UP and jharkand etc. There needs to be preferential segmentation for the OBCs from north, and east compared to those from the south within the OBC quota in national institutes like IIT and IIM
RE:OBCs from east,north and west are at a disadvantage compared to those in TN
by kumarkn on Mar 30, 2007 06:16 PM Permalink
otherwise OBCs like me from eastern states will be at a great disadvantage compared to those from TN. I hope our leaders like lalu prasadji will pl take notice of this. They need to be careful with leaders from TN such as ramdas , karunidhi etc
1. It explicitly creates hierarchy among Indians which is against Article 14 ie Right to Equality. 2. Parents covertly preach their children to coerce other children as per the above hierarchies.
RE:Hinduism is the root of all evil in India.
by Venkat Krishnan on Mar 30, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
my dear friend, most religions do this in some form or other.
go thru the history of religions in a balanced mind, you will understand most religions have done this. one group of men suppressing other group has ALWAYS been the case with humans (even some animals exhibhit this trait):
- In the middle ages, the church was the supreme in europe and countless people have died at the hands of church; galileo was threatened; copernicus was afraid to publish his book; and countless stories are there. - You know the count of american-indians killed in the name of 'americanization' ? - Moslems have killed others just because others were not moslems and even now Iraq is suffering from a great sunni/shiite divide. - Buddhists too have been involved in politics now and then - In fact the non-religious Communism has a greater history of suppressing others and killing others.
Face it friend, its the basis of human nature. blaming religion for this only shows the short-sightedness.
RE:Hinduism is the root of all evil in India.
by m on Mar 31, 2007 11:56 AM Permalink
Sorry it is too late now. Take up our generous offer and brace yourself. http://www.blogpoll.com/poll/view_Poll.php?type=java&poll_id=108166
RE:Hinduism is the root of all evil in India.
by west on Mar 30, 2007 07:27 PM Permalink
I fully agree with Venkat. Infact, Hinduism is a way of life that every human being should be proud of. There was so much thinking in creating the classes. I just don't want to waste your time in explaining all those things. One thing is sure ... Hinduism is a way of life and not a religion and it should be seen as defining the roles and duties of a person thereby contributing to the society.
The reason why so many people talk bad about Hinduism is because of their lack of knowledge of why our ancestors created the classes.
With fire, you can shape an ornament. You can also use it for destruction. So, it all depends on how you want to use it.
If you start thinking about why the classes are created and what's the duty of each class, then I'm sure anyone can see the wisdom of our Sages.
If upper caste people who are less than 10% in India do not like reservations or to live with rest of the Indians, we are offering a separate state/nation to them. http://www.blogpoll.com/poll/view_Poll.php?type=java&poll_id=108166
RE:Seperate state/nation
by on Mar 30, 2007 06:57 PM Permalink
Take the emotion out and think it for a second. Don't you think one of the reasons India is poor because of incompentent and incapable individuals holding govt jobs and most of them are because of reservation.
You think you must be given reservation just because you are from OBC. Well how are you going to construct a bridge, perform surgery, decide the economy of a country if you are not capable enough to do it. Trust me if not for the 10% of the upper caste, you may not even find food to eat.
