Brahmin's - Have Changed in 60 years, truly wants to protect Hinduism, almost 60% of them are flexible and adjustable with changing times. The return of Hindutva to many of them means a Hindu rashtra free of caste. Khastriya and OBC's (Jai Jawan and Jai Kisan Rally) - Want to take political advantage of the situation, esp. by making brahmin's/dalit scapegoat as and when needed. The return of Hindutava to them means return of caste system in India. Vaishyas: Almost 70% are indifferent to any caste/non-caste system. Their "community" is strong enough to hold the entry of anyone in business. With or without caste system the Vasihyas will still do their business. However, some of them esp. who migrated to India after partition are against the caste system. Dalits: Brainwashed by politicians (most no. 2 category) that brahmins are no. 1 enemy. While 85% still oppressed,the progress of 15% of them is making the whole of India "worry" about their future status. A parliament full of dalits????..chee chee
RE:A good beginning for th Brahmins
by abhishekj on Mar 29, 2007 06:40 AM Permalink
Hi Sameer
Thanks for the appreciation. We must be proactive, as you rightly said. However we should not think of other castes as inferior or superior , because judging a person on the basis of caste is meaningless. They are doing what is right for them and we should do what is right for us. If necessary we should cooperate with other castes and if necessary we should fight.
My point about women was not to lower the dignity of women of any caste, but just to point that in an increasingly lawless and strife-torn society like India, this kind of hooliganism may be very real, and no one will protect the politically weak.
RE:A good beginning for th Brahmins
by Save Hinduism on Mar 29, 2007 07:03 AM Permalink
And Sam Bhatt was the one in favor of destruction of Ram Setu as it was a fictional structure devoid of any religious value.
RE:A good beginning for th Brahmins
by Save Hinduism on Mar 29, 2007 07:00 AM Permalink
Abhishek,
Your views are well accepted. Sam is way over the top with his rhetorics. He is here to create a divide among hindus.I believe no one would write crap like
"I am happy to see so many of our Brahmin brothers on top posts in India , we have to be on the top thru maintaining our status , we are superior and will be superior forever it is god's gift to the Brahmin,inferior castes in Hinduism should be thankful to us for having including them in Hinduism and giving them some status atleast. " May be he should elaborate his claims of superiority when thru his post he has consistently displayed utterly myopic perspective on a very important issue.
The word brahmin does not denote a caste but is derived from the word "Brahman" which means the supreme soul. The scriptures which tried to understand Brahman were the Brahmanas which were more of commentaries on vedas. The people who dedicated their lives to the study came to be known as brahmins. So any one can be a brahmin. It was never a caste.
Hello All Indians, out of all people you must not believe politicians when they cry for any religion or class or language or part of India,they all need is vote...Please vote for real educated and good candidate when you vote. I admit we dont have good choice,we have few people then select the least bad person,that makes sense. A good man in a bad party is much better than a bad man in a good party(what you think a good party)
Leave behind your culture which was laid down by people 1000 years ago...stop fighting on that...build a new culture...a culture which will take our country forward.
Historically the reason why brahmins were considered superior or became superior was not because of the the religion or religious texts. It was the noble qualities that Brahmin forefathers displayed - Like not drinking , not smoking , not having illicit relationships , not cheating others , value of money is limited to a brahmin, being courageous(mentally and physically),upholding truth and dharma , being religious, being good to others etc... Some of the reasons why other castes were considered lower was because of not following those noble qualities. Now a days Dalits ,that even though they do not accept openly have realised this fact. I could see this a lot during my interaction with the dalit students during my college days. Some of them make friendship with brahmins and try to emulate them. And in my experience i have seen them to do good in studies and also in real life. Again iam not saying that all brahmins are noble or people from other castes are not. But in general i think my observations hold. I also think we are moving in the right direction, we should brahminise the dalits especially when the christian funded dalits like Kanchi Iliah are trying the opposite
RE:Dalit Realisation
by Mahesh Sampat on Mar 29, 2007 05:18 AM Permalink
You are braminising the dalits ? All evidence points out that the dalits are Dalitising you,the brahmins !!
Brahmin is any person who knows Brahma(God or Oneness). If somebody claims I am brahmin, because my I wear a thread or government asked me to put brahmin as caste. Then they do not know hinduism.
As somebody rightly said, try to become brahmin, again not today's so called brahmin , but brahmin described in vedas who are supposed to be selfless and realized that god is in every human being.
Valmiki was born as chandala, but he became brahmin by deeds. Similarly so many asuras were born to brahmin selfless fathers, but they became low caste by deeds.
It is simple, you belong to each caste by what you do not by birth.
RE:Who is brahmin?
by SI on Mar 29, 2007 02:46 AM Permalink
cut this crap. Baghawath gita clearly says, about different groups Brahmins, Kshatriyas, shudras, etc. and it even specifies various punishments for dalits if they try to mix with upper caste. So keep your philosophy with you only.
RE:Who is brahmin?
by Vijay on Mar 29, 2007 04:51 AM Permalink
I think SI stands for Stupid Ignorant. I bet you are just quoting a line which someone else told you about and you have never even touched Bhagvad Gita, forget reading it.
RE:
by Save Hinduism on Mar 29, 2007 04:54 AM Permalink
or senile idiot or sterile imposter or...what the hell, this guy is just creating division.just ignore him and his likes. I would want to see hindus as just hindus not brahmins or non-brahmins. Period.
RE:Who is brahmin?
by Save Hinduism on Mar 29, 2007 04:46 AM Permalink
Whoa SI buddy, may be you read some version brought out by xians.And the name is Bhagwat Gita and to be more precise Holy Bhagwat Gita.Get the facts right and then open the gates to dissent.
RE:Who is brahmin?
by rishi on Mar 29, 2007 03:05 AM Permalink
SI: you are lying...read the Bhagavat Gita then speak. Unlike a Sruti (like the Vedas), You are confusing with Manu Smriti(a smriti is a time bound doctrine and can be rejected).
Please ask your Muslim and Christian masters to teach you new propaganda.
RE:Who is brahmin?
by AlarmedAquarian on Mar 29, 2007 05:31 AM Permalink
Yes the gita says that molten lead should be poured into the ears of any dalit who dares to get educated.This is a fact.
RE:Who is brahmin?
by iamansp on Mar 29, 2007 05:56 AM Permalink
although I dont agree with Gita.. It does not have any violence like killing dalits. Dont mix facts.
RE:Who is brahmin?
by Save Hinduism on Mar 29, 2007 06:46 AM Permalink
Are you serious? Have you ever opened a page of Gita? Crap is at best tolerated coming out of the right place not the mouth. I have read Gita not once but many times. What crass ignorance and distortion? You guys are only here to create division among hindus. And you might even succeed given the fact that our hindu brothers act on emotions rather than intellect. Me included by the way but we would learn..I hope..
RE:Who is brahmin?
by LAXMAN SASTRY on Mar 29, 2007 01:34 PM Permalink
what amount you have taken to convert into christianity? You bloody people sell any thing for money.
RE:Who is brahmin?
by aaaa on Mar 29, 2007 03:06 AM Permalink
Which Bhagwath Gita did you read . Maybe one written by Kanchi Iliah or some christian funded organisation. Can you quote the passage that referring to "punishments for dalits if they try to mix with upper caste". Infact bhagwath gita says that caste is by "karma" and not "Janma"
