I SUSPECT..... MUSHARRAF MAY DIVERT PUBLIC ATTENTION BY CREATING BORDER TENSION BETWEEN INDIA AND PAKISTHAN TO GET POLITICAL MILAGE OR COMEOVER FROM THE CRISIS ............ WE SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS DURING ELECTIONS IN PAKISTHAN
He is mohajir, remember he visited his house in newdelhi? he will disposed off by his nonmohajir country men it is just the matter of agitation/ excitation required which can be arranged by the all mighty americans.
RE:musharraf has no future
by Sunit Kumar on Mar 21, 2007 03:43 PM Permalink
Let me correct you, Technically he may be a Mohajir but for all practical reasons he is not. Mohajirs are non-punjabi, non-sindhi, mostly they are URDU speaking people from INDIA, but they also include sizeable population from rest of India, since in India form British time, Hindi/Hindustani was spoken in the wider population, they came to be know as that.
I am not an expert rather most Indians and Pakistanis (I guess) are not experts on the kashmir issue or any of the border issues. They read some report, "imagine" some things and finally write something else. Rather than people making their own decisions on how the Indian leaders should be or how Pakistan is becoming a failed state, I think in this time of global economy where people are moving from country to country, it is important to understand our neighbors. If you ask me, or any average Indian, I am pretty sure we dont know how an average Pakistani is. Some of my friends who visited Pakistan say that an average Pakistani is very humble to Indians. He had that experience. Do we all average Indians have that, I guess not. I also believe that both Indian and Pakistani media are very one sided and report what their individual country wants to hear. Lets face it, its human nature to read gossip, something that drives a little adrenaline. So if a small report makes the media sell itself, well they do that. I have no solution, but I strongly believe that there should be a one on one interaction between an average Indian and an average Pakistani.
RE:Some things are true
by Kishore Babu on Mar 21, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
why media or ppl discussing on boards always try to compare India and Pak.why average Indian needs to understand average pak. There are several other countries why not try to understand other countries? If average paki is so good , if they are so humble , its good let them be .
It is pakistan which attacked India for Kashmsir,Indian politicos are so foolish,they left captured 90,000 soliders and Lahore without solving the issue.Well,we need to have good terms with neighbours,but if neighbours are constantly trying to sabotage the interests then whats the point in thinking that their leaders are bad thats why we are suffering but avarage neighbours are good so we shd not feel it means ultimately what we are going to get??
we need to think and understand the ppl if they are underdevelopped and trying to improve themselves,so we need to understand and support them.we doesnt have to understand the plight of average ppl when they are indulging in bomb blasts and thinking to bring down others irrespective of their own growth.
The need of the hour is take strict action on terror plans and try to move forward with economic growth.we need to understand others when they want to grow up not when they want to destrory others at any cost.we say we need to understand pak,but we never try to understand our own neighbours,if so thousands of kashmir ppl wont live on streets for last 18 yrs. Always by comparing with pak we are limitting ourselves.
RE:Some things are true
by saman ahmed on Jun 03, 2007 04:58 PM Permalink
remember kishore pakistan did not attack india in 1965 instead india attacked pakistan even without announcing and at night like thieves dont you have sense that pakistan had far less war equipments at tahat time it had a number of other matters to cope with than how could it attack india but alhamdulillah we defended ourselves very well and you failed to occupy the newly formed pakistan . remember you did not left lahore but you were defeated there .remember pakistan destroyed your 90% airforce you left our 90000 soldiers for occupied kashmir . your political leaders could not be so foolished taht they released 90000 soldiers without any cause dont say anything without knowledge
RE:RE:After Mushraf
by AK on Mar 21, 2007 08:22 AM Permalink
Hey Suraj/Umar good going man! It seems both of you have real Guts...! What are you waiting for...go join the Indian Government and bring some difference. Dont waste your energy by just talking!
Kashmir is a part of India, there should not be any autonomy or special rules in any state for that matter, people sitting in the other side of the border should mind what's happening in their place rather than seeing what is happening in Kashmir or Gujrat. In fact the so called Pakistan was an integral part of Hindustan (INDIA), how about putting that back as the current people whom came were the Moguls who came from abroad, they can stay in the current pakistan being a part of HINDUSTAN. This has been going on for a long time asking the Indians to leave Kashmir or to leave some other place. Instead now since they had come from a different place they should think of going back wherever their anncestors came from or if they want to be here BE A PART OF HINDUSTAN (INDIA).
RE:INDIA
by saman ahmed on Jun 03, 2007 05:07 PM Permalink
parsad we are the decessandants of hindus but our ancesstors liked islam and they entered that wonderful religion under the influence of mughals and we rejected that hindu religion now how can you devoid us our land majority of kashmiris are muslims and according to this law it should be a part of pakistan
RE:INDIA
by on Mar 21, 2007 07:31 AM Permalink
No offense Prasad but how does that affect your daily life. Does making statements about how the Moguls came thousands of years ago lets you a free ticket into IIT or IIM? Does that say that if you were the prime minister of India today, you would abolish the caste system? Its hard to see in the mirror, its easy to point fingers! (I am sure after writing this you would think that I am not a true Indian or a patriot..:)..untrue)
I read the entire interview and one thing that I can glean from this interview is that no matter how educated or facilitated u r, the feeling of animosity and comparison doesn't go away. The interviewer was asking objective questions, how ever the answer were as usual wrapped in the India vs Pakistan cover. Didn't like the tone of answers, especially from such an educated person who refers to a subset of the Pakistani population as "Elite" however when it come to India it becomes "You Indians", this shows that some poeple can still talk like school kids even if they have studied at King's College London.
RE:Big talk
by Secular Indian on Mar 21, 2007 12:02 PM Permalink
Good observation! In my dealings with the Pakistanis overseas, I've observed that at a social level things are OK (you either get along or don't just like with any other nationality), but no matter how "liberal" don't mention Kashmir. Another observation unrelated though is that very few actually claim to be indigenous , this is my small sample set of taxi drivers and people that I've met socially. A large majority claim to be from Saudi Arabia and think of Indians as an inferior race. My 2c.
RE:RE:Big talk
by sandeep sankar chittoor on Mar 21, 2007 01:39 PM Permalink
Not from Saudi. Perhaps consdiers themselves of Afghan ,and Turkic descent which is true to a large extend
RE:RE:RE:Big talk
by rathnam chandrasekhar on Mar 21, 2007 06:11 PM Permalink
Hi I am sure it is identity CRISES , my guess converted Muslims and so the problems continue, ask the Pakis what they think of India ................they are bitter about 1971 ?why I am sure the only way to solve the problem is to redefine the border as HINDUSTAN , the one before partition by BRITS Please note there was no PAKIS before 1947 , why have one now ? to destabilize the region, who created north and south Korea ? former Vietnam, etc Wake up and lets join hands togather and be one SUPER super POWER, Sam
RE:RE:RE:RE:Big talk
by on Mar 21, 2007 09:46 PM Permalink
Hi Rathnam Yes, i do agree that there was no PAKI before 1947. since then world has changed so much as India and Pakistan. It is very true that the large and single HINDUSTAN (India, pakistan and Bangladesh) does not exists any more. wake up. Accept the truth that we no longer ONE and in future cannot become ONE singe nation. It is better to be as seperate countries rather than thinking of Uniting them. Think of West German's plight after the merger of the two countries.
RE:RE:Big talk
by arun singh on Mar 21, 2007 05:41 PM Permalink
I also have similar experience while living and working in Middle East for more than a decade.
