By the way, Buddha Bhattacharya (WB Chief Minister) met with 2 American Intelleigence Agents. Issue was rise of Islamic Fundamentalist groups in West Bengal and Eastern India:)-
Smell the Coffee now:)-
CHoice for Muslim fundamentalists are getting narrower.
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by Gazi Syed on Mar 17, 2007 05:32 AM Permalink
this is really good. Extremists must be taken care off. There is no place of religious extremism in India.
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by Yossarian on Mar 17, 2007 05:55 AM Permalink
Chattopadhya I am a Muslim but not Islamist. I am not religious fanatic like you. I don't dream of Ram rajya but I do dream of a better,safe and secular India. You know at the time of parition there were three groups, extremists Muslims, extremits Hindus, and good human beings(Hindus Muslims). Extremists Muslims migrated to Pak Bangladesh. The Muslims left in India belong to good human beings category. but Sadly Extremist Hinuds remain in India. You are one of them. You follow a sick ideology that has never been realised. I am sure your Hinud extremists ideology is not going to succeed cause its very much against the concept of Indian Nation. I feel genuinly sorry about you. I wish you peace after life cause I m sure you are not going to get peace in this life.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:BJP and Mulayam...
by Imlaq Ahmad on Mar 17, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
Dear Bhasker! Why everyone wants to drag muslims in politics. Please leave us alone. If you are serious about developing India. We have to uplift the weaker sections, this is a fact. I am sure you are aware of the situation of muslims. Muslims are certainly being sidelined in all sector of jobs/governments. RSS/VHP & its supporters are behind all this propanganda. I havebeen in military service for 15 years, i have faced the bias by anti-muslim attitude of hindu serviceman.
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by Suman Bhat on Mar 17, 2007 11:04 AM Permalink
don't term hindu extermists. recently bukari told india is secualr b'cuz of hindus. If u educated muslims support anti india activites under minortiy tag muslimleague, deobandu jamathind, almplb and waqf boardsimi, deendar anjum ..all are working for only for muslims and islamisation of india. Your blogs in TOI always post anti hindu msgs and block msgs against evil side of muslim, islam and even against paki terrorists. pls don't talk about the bullshit secularism which means kill hindus, destroy temples, promote islamsiation and xiainisation of hindustan. u should be educate ur communtiy about family planning, paki terroirst and ucc and respect the land of law not shariya law
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by Gazi Syed on Mar 17, 2007 05:38 AM Permalink
Indian Muslims don%u2019t believe in religious divisions therefore they don%u2019t need a separate party. In democratic and secular India there is no place of religious fundamentalist parties.The Muslims who stayed in india believed in India and a secular India. It%u2019s very unfortunate that many Hindus have decided to go for religious party/parties and taking our country a step back.
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by A P on Mar 17, 2007 06:22 PM Permalink
I do not believe you completely. Why do Kashmiri Muslim traitors believe in seperatism and why have not Indian muslims come up in protests against them?
This will be detrimental to the very same Hindutva he subscribes to. Votes will be divided between the BJP and his candidates. Even if he considers BJP to be not a "staunch" Hindutva, it's atleast some Hindutva that other parties don't adhere to. So it will hurt both BJP and his party which might benefit SP, BSP and others. This factionalism is detrimental to nationalism and seems to be individually motivated more than anything.
He will not do that. He is just politically posturing to get few more seats for his supporters in Eastern UP.
As BJP has made deal with Apna Dal, few of his seats may be squeezed.
But I am sure, he is aware of his historic role as religious head of Nath Sampraday, Gorakhnath temple - his role is not just to become a MP.
He should concentrate on saving Nepal by rallying Gurkhas (He is their spiritual guru) and people of terai agaist anti Hindu Maoist, Missionaries and ISI.
He has the key of Nepal. I hope Indian security agencies use him tactically, and give him enough security as he is under threat from anti-Hindu maoist, missionaries and ISI.
RE:RE:He is dividing votes if he floats new party
by Rogerbinny on Mar 17, 2007 02:53 AM Permalink
what lock is he using because now the keys can be duplicated easily
haha..History of 1200 years cannot be duplicated in a single day:)-
Those who know the history of Nath Sampraday, Gorakhnath, Gurkhas, Rajputs and their inter-relationship will not speak like this. But as we know, there are many idiots around:)-
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by Rogerbinny on Mar 17, 2007 03:02 AM Permalink
i never knew idiots could not understand what others are saying, anyway how can i expect an idiot not to baost of his history. hey why dont you continue with your idiotic write-ups
Yossarain, an Islamist, writes : "Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur"
Is it? Or fact is totally contrary?
Fact is, the socalled 'marginalised minority" people killed a Hindu boy from a gun. What was this Hindu's fault? None. He was participating in a parriage ceremony and there was some dispute between them and the music group who were playing music there.
A muslim religious process was passing by, and one Muslim shot this Hindu for no reason.
Now, what Mylayam Singh's Govt did? Nothing for 3 days. Because, if that Muslim guy is caught by police, Muslims will come out in the street, create chaos. Mulayam was worried for Muslim vote!
What was Yogiji's fault? His fault was: HE DEMANDED JUSTICE. AFTER 3 DAYS, HE WENT OUT AND DEMANDED POLICE SHOULD CATCH THE CULPRIT.
RE:Yossarain, an Islamist, writes : ''Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur''. Is it? Or fact is totally contrary?
by Yossarian on Mar 17, 2007 04:46 AM Permalink
Mr Chatu Padhay , You should take this extremist%u2019s goggles off your eyes. INDIA belongs to Muslims and Hindus equally. The Guy who has been killed was misbehaving, fight broke out and he got killed. There was nothing religious about it.
Later on what this YOGI did was rioting, anti-social and thus anti-national.
About Terai, I am from Terai. I know people of Tarai got to be saved from extremists that also includes RSS/BJP. Thankfully they have realised it and taken appropriate actions. You can go and check BJP%u2019s record. The very example, your new Bhagwan, Vinay Katiyar, has been shown the exit from Terai and I am sure he will never dare to return. Yes maoists are new problem but we will fight it as we did against Punjab Terrorism.
RE:RE:Yossarain, an Islamist, writes : ''Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur''. Is it? Or fact is totally contrary?
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 17, 2007 04:59 AM Permalink
You are NOT from Terai. If you were, then you would have realised who Yogi is and what it means for that area.
RE:RE:Yossarain, an Islamist, writes : ''Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur''. Is it? Or fact is totally contrary?
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 17, 2007 05:03 AM Permalink
Even Nehru wrote in "Discovery of India", that North Indians are aggressive when compared to South Indians because North India underwent LONG OPPRESSIVE MUSLIM RULE.
The arrogance shown by a section of Muslims, and inability of political parties to counter that IS MAKING EVERY HINDU EQUALLY AGGRESSIVE AS MUSLIMS!
RE:RE:RE:Yossarain, an Islamist, writes : ''Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur''. Is it? Or fact is totally contrary?
by Yossarian on Mar 17, 2007 05:15 AM Permalink
Mr Chattopadhya Muslims ruled India and just not the north India. Your allegatinos are totally absurd. Muslims did not rule NE why NE people are so aggresive and fighting.
See chattopadhay your vision is very narrow. http://www.indianexpress.com/story/22381.html FYI .. Terai starts from Hardwar/Roorkee ..and goes upto Ggorakhpur.
I need not show you my birth certificate to prove that I am from Terai.
As for as YOGI is concerned as per your write ups, he is a Aughad, and Aughad's are cannibals.Anti Social behaviour from such a person is surprising but it's shocking to see the number of supporters.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Yossarain, an Islamist, writes : ''Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur''. Is it? Or fact is totally contrary?
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 17, 2007 05:32 AM Permalink
You hide your Islamist ideology by taking a non-Islamic name!
Because, in today's world, hardly anybody believe what comes from an Islamist!
RE:RE:RE:RE:Yossarain, an Islamist, writes : ''Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur''. Is it? Or fact is totally contrary?
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 17, 2007 05:31 AM Permalink
Who cares what an Islamist Say!
Actually, that's why you hide your name! Most often than not, FACTS ARE OPPOSITE TO WHAT AN ISLAMIST SAY!
RE:RE:RE:RE:Yossarain, an Islamist, writes : ''Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur''. Is it? Or fact is totally contrary?
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 17, 2007 05:41 AM Permalink
Its nOT me saying! Nehru in Discovery of India write himself:)-
Myth of Muslim rule in India is a double edged sword. Rightwing use that to evoke passion. Left want to white wash it.
However, balanced view is: Yes, Muslim rule was for many centuries, not it was not very settled. They were challenged all the time.
Specially since the days of rise of Sikh & Maratha Power!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Yossarain, an Islamist, writes : ''Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur''. Is it? Or fact is totally contrary?
by santan g on Mar 17, 2007 06:41 PM Permalink
Most / all most all infidels and kafirs that is HINDUS are totally ignorant about Islam and qran and ofcourse their own scriptures. They go on peddling some irrational and impractical and imbecile dhimmi thoughts that all religions teach the same and all religions lead to salvation. Thats the imbecile perception born out of complete ignorance.In a way it is good as there is no retaliatory destruction. Lets examine the truth.Read what Bible says about the fate of PAGANS.Christians call you stupid Hindus as PAGANS ( animists and idolators) and islamists call you kafirs and infidels and Najis which means filth in ARabic. Our ignorance about our own past will lead us towards complete destruction.I will say 25 years or less. thank you very much. Understand your enemy and his plans, they say half the war is won! No we are hindus and we like to be asleep for anotheer 20 years and then every thing will be lost for ever.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Yossarain, an Islamist, writes : ''Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur''. Is it? Or fact is totally contrary?
by Yossarian on Mar 17, 2007 05:50 AM Permalink
Chattopadhya I am a Muslim but not Islamist. I am not religious fanatic like you. I don't dream of Ram rajya but I do dream of a better,safe and secular India. You know at the time of parition there were three groups, extremists Muslims, extremits Hindus, and good human beings(Hindus Muslims). Extremists Muslims migrated to Pak Bangladesh. The Muslims left in India belong to good human beings category. but Sadly Extremist Hinuds remain in India. You are one of them. You follow a sick ideology that has never been realised. I am sure your Hinud extremists ideology is not going to succeed cause its very much against the concept of Indian Nation. I feel genuinly sorry about you. I wish you peace after life cause I m sure you are not going to get peace in this life.
RE:RE:Yossarain, an Islamist, writes : ''Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur''. Is it? Or fact is totally contrary?
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 17, 2007 04:58 AM Permalink
So, Pakistan & Bangladesh belongs to Islam, however India belongs to both:)-
Which Muslims? Those who deny, hate everything of this 5000 Year history, heritage which equally belongs them. Or those who look to outside India as their ideal?
Stop looking at everything thro\\\' narrow religious mirror. IF A MUSLIM KILLS A NON_MUSLIM, THEN THE NON-MUSLIM MUST BE BLAMED!
This is a quranic hubris that when Muslims fighting infidels, always support that muslim guy.
GUESS WHAT: NOW HINDUS WILL START BEHAVING AS MUSLIMS (AS ALREADY ITS A REALITY IN LARGE PARTS OF INDIA), AND ATTACK MUSLIMS.
Fact is, the socalled 'marginalised minority" people killed a Hindu boy from a gun. What was this Hindu's fault? None. He was participating in a parriage ceremony and there was some dispute between them and the music group who were playing music there.
A muslim religious process was passing by, and one Muslim shot this Hindu for no reason.
Now, what Mylayam Singh's Govt did? Nothing for 3 days. Because, if that Muslim guy is caught by police, Muslims will come out in the street, create chaos. Mulayam was worried for Muslim vote!
What was Yogiji's fault? His fault was: HE DEMANDED JUSTICE. AFTER 3 DAYS, HE WENT OUT AND DEMANDED POLICE SHOULD CATCH THE CULPRIT.
RE:Yossarain, an Islamist, writes
by Golden on Mar 17, 2007 03:48 AM Permalink
actually that rowdy hindu boy was fighting with the religious group for no reason and threatened to kill the people and he worsened the situation. finally he got killed. in fact all must understand that just becaues they belong to major community it doestn mean their rogue behaviour will be always tolerated. they must be nice and strength doesnt lie in numbers. it lies in truthfullness. the one who is on the right path will have the last say.
>>actually that rowdy hindu boy was fighting with the religious group for no reason and threatened to kill the people and he worsened the situation
As usual another Islamic propagand. Bunch of Lie.
Change your name from "Golden" to "Mullah". Because that "Golden" period of first 4 Khalifs were NOT "Golden" if you kept your name because of that. That was birth of madness which has continued to torment the world still now.
Fact is, almost every riot in India, starts when Fundamentalist section of Muslims starts fighting.
People have tolerated enough of Muslim goonda-gardi. Unless this is stopped, you will realise what happens as evident in most riots.
Who paid most after this Gorakhpur riot? We all know. Isn't it?
So, better for fundamentalist Muslims and their leaders is: stop this goonda-gardi. And follow law as others. Else ....the society will teach a lesson.
If this person wants to play UP Politics in Mumabi and trying to get even 20 seats of them as candidates ! Let the party decide . I am sure no sane party will heed to this kind of a blackmail. Come on, if you belong to UP go there and do something constructive or is it something that he assures to be a "trafficker" between UP and Mumbai ?
Yogiji should concentrate on TERAI Areas of Nepal, Eastern UP, Northrn Bihar from invading Anti-Hindu Maoists, ISI and Missionaries.
As the Spiritual Head of Nath Sampradays, and inheritor of the Supreme Kashtriya-hood of Guru Gorakhnathji, Yogi Adityanath should concentrate preaching Kashtriya -Dharma to Gurkhas of Nepal (the word Gurkha comes from Gorakhnath), people of Eastern UP, and Hindus of Northern India specially bordering Nepal.
He carries a Kashtriya heritage which is unmatched in the world. And Nepal and Indian needs that today as was needed during the time of Gorakshanathji who drove Muslims out of India.
Please leave Politics to BJP. You have a bigger mission - Whether Nepal will stay Hindu or not will depend on Yogiji.
RE:khurana uma
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 17, 2007 02:20 AM Permalink
With due respect for Umaji, Yogi Adityanath is not just a Member of Parliament.
He is spiritual head of Nath Sampraday, a Kashtriya sect.
The word "Gurkha" - Nepali fighters, is derived from the word Gorakhnath, whose principal Prist is Yogiji.
He is needed to spiritually united people of Terai (nepal), northern India bordering Nepal who are under attack from anti-Hindu Maoists, Missionaries and ISI.
Yogiji is upset because BJP gave some tickets to Apna Dal whose areas of strength is also Eastern UP.
I hope, he will not scuttle BJP's chances in UP. because of his legitimacy, might is added with Kurmis, BJP led NDA will win almost all seats in Eastern UP.
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by Samudraniel Dasgupta on Mar 17, 2007 03:41 PM Permalink
Bhaskar, Ask any Quizzer in Calcutta. The Word Gorkha comes from 'Go Rakshak; - The protector of cows or the shepherd. Hindu again is the description of people who lived in the land of Indus.(Refer to Continent of Circe by Nirad C Chaudhury.)Itis infact not the name of the religion we practise. The greatest strencgth of Sanatan Dharma (Hnduism) is its tolerance. If you feel so strongly about Hinduism,please go back to Tagore to learn about love of Humanism above Religion.
RE:Politics of BJP,Public fed up
by Yossarian on Mar 17, 2007 12:52 AM Permalink
So called educated, actually idiots, are happy with the anti-Muslim mask of BJP. They are not seeing true culture and people who make the BJP.If you go and check the BJP cadres you will find they are all the anti-social elements goons. Even in the party leaders apart from Arun Jaitley ( I respect him a lot) there is no a single leader who has got vision for INDIA and has got leadership qualities. What these guys have got, are the provoking capabilties of masses against Muslims and whoever they wish. They are good leaders for destruction but not for construction.
Awake Indians and wipe out this extremist daemon otherwise INDIA could also become a place of religious extremists like PAK or Banglasdeh. I wish that never happens.
Btw YOGI himself is bigtime criminal and recently he was responsible for the riots in Gorakhpur.
RE:RE:Politics of BJP,Public fed up
by Sreekanth Nemani on Mar 17, 2007 12:21 PM Permalink
yea right..... and the congress is so full of vision... I am almost blinded. Get off the high ground, and see the reality. What BJP is saying is just the reality, you just don't like it..... that's all..
What corruption are you talking about? BJP is like 10times better than congress as far as corruption and goons are concerned. In BJP it is just some of the cadres that are bad, in congress people all the way to the MPs are just goons... the only difference is they keep harping about secularism...
RE:RE:Politics of BJP,Public fed up
by chaitanya kumar on Mar 17, 2007 01:23 AM Permalink
to construct, you need to destruct and put the piecies together in proper order.
RE:RE:RE:Politics of BJP,Public fed up
by Golden on Mar 17, 2007 03:51 AM Permalink
if so then distruct your ownself and your lies you have been telling to your people for long. distruct your arrogance and never try to destruct your neighbour it will give you immense problem otherwise.
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by SANKALP BALDAWA on Mar 17, 2007 01:26 AM Permalink
sir please check your facts before talking: 1) Atal bihari vajpayee: vision to mak infrasture so golden quadrilateral was made (but work on remaining part slowed by congress) 2) vision to interlink rivers so dat all drought prone regions get water and flood affected areas get relief during natural calamities 3) graham sadak yojna again a project by BJP 4) well any leader against whom allegations were made resigned from loksabha(it never happened in congress natwar singh is still there holding the post since if he is removed sonia gandis role in food for money scam will be open) 5)mobile infrastructure was laid down during BJPs rule, now congress has all goons from mr Laloo (he is cleaning his image by doing some good work now) but has fodder scam against him, Sibu soren was again a minister, now Mr Q has been let off all his account were defrozen coz if he is caught sonia gandi role in bofors will come out.
congress which in name of secularism is exploiting the minorities. then now if u go to market what it takes to earn and live in this congress regime where all policies are against poor and middle class. dude wake up and support BJP coz it has a vision and it can lead india in right direction .
RE:RE:RE:Politics of BJP,Public fed up
by Rogerbinny on Mar 17, 2007 01:46 AM Permalink
hey sankalp badwe nee ball dabaw, u are a bjp mask man, dont have brain of your own
The moment people realise fanaticism of a section of Muslims are being tolerated because Hindus are divided, everybody will close ranks.
Sarat Chandra Chatterjee, pre eminent Indian novelist wrote in mid 1920s: Hindu Muslim problem will be solved in a day when Hindus become united.
Its a histrical process. The more people see things happening in our 2 islamic neigbors, growing fanaticism of Indian muslims - THEY WILL CLOSE RANK TO SAVE THEIR LIFE, PROPERTY.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Politics of BJP,Public fed up
by Golden on Mar 17, 2007 03:59 AM Permalink
George Bernad Shaw told clearly that if muslims started gathering in the mosque in the morning prayer matching the friday prayer, then think that now they will rule the world. all these enemies of humanity, rioter fanatics hindus will look some holes to hide in the earth.
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by Golden on Mar 17, 2007 03:56 AM Permalink
it will never happen as holy books itself divide the society in four sections and give preferences to one over another. so dont talk about unity. oh yes if muslims united, of course problem will be solved and this can happen as they follow on book only which is based on human equality not on division. so once they are united all these communcal forces will take the last breath.
RE:Politics of BJP,Public fed up
by Golden on Mar 17, 2007 03:54 AM Permalink
thanks God people are not recognising the real face of these communal forces. one day they will understand that actually their real peace is in living together with every body getting equal rights of living rather than shouting slogans and doing riots. BJP will never succeed in its dirty desire.
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by rising star on Mar 17, 2007 04:17 AM Permalink
Inspite of friday, 4 and a half times prayers and a book full of violence and hatred, muslims find themselves in lowest strata of society in Indai or here in UK or rest of world. Recently, Dutch minister clearly told that 2/3rd of this book must be torn away. Hindus, on the other hand rule at the highest strata of society and economy, and command great respect - compare the value of an Indian vs Pak passport at airports anywhere in the world. A handful of Jews (Israel) are sufficient to so-called power of muslims and their book!
Communal? That's better than getting blown apart in the hands of Islamists, Islamo-facists!
Isn't it?
Hindus are understanding more with every passing day, AS LONG AS HINDUS REMAIN DIVIDED THIS MUSLIM BULLY (A TERM USED BY NO LESS THAN GANDHIJI) IS GOING TO CONTINUE.
yogi adithyanad is a staunch supporter of hindutva.now a days bjp hates hindutva.that is why they have expelled uma bharthi,downgraded narendra modi and now this yogi episode.people like me firmly believes in hindutva not in bjp.we are with these people.bjp will be ashes if this continues.
