PAKISTAN has fulfilled its usefulness to the US and is due ,like a used condom, to be discarded.In another 30 to 50 years Pakistan will be divided into 4 to 5 parts.this can end terriosm against india.balochis, sindhis and pakhtoons are not against india.in fact even majority of punjab are not by nature anti indians.its only mojahir (migrants from india, especially from bihari, UP,gujrat etc )who are having strong anti indian sentiments.these mojahirs are mainly in karachi and finnacially sound community of pakistan .anyway after division of pakistan these mojahirs can't do much anti indian activities.regarding pakis nuclear bomb, its firmly under US control
RE:RE:PAKISTAN 'S END SOON
by Abhik RayChaudhury on Mar 12, 2007 11:06 PM Permalink
I agree with Saif on the issue of the baluchis, sindhis and Pakhtoons, as all of them either did not want to join Pakistan or resented it (sindhis) after joining. Actually, the pakhtoon (Pathans), under Gaffar Khan, wanted to join India!! In their long history, this is the only time the Pathans voluntarily gave up their weapons and became non-violent. I think historically the Baluchis were more favorably disposed towards India than pakistan (at the time of partition). The last amir of baluchistan wanted to rise up one last time, but before he could do anything substantial was killed recently. Pakistan has been alienating these groups for a long time now, just as they did the bengalis, and only time will tell how this will be played out.
RE:PAKISTAN 'S END SOON
by Masood Khan on Mar 12, 2007 11:17 PM Permalink
The stuff you have written is complete nonsense from top to bottom. I dont understand how did you come to these conclusions and what facts you have to support them.
As far as US is concerned, you are right that Pak will be discarded when the intentions and interest of US ends in the region. But the rest all is utter irresposnible comments. Mister, you are really unimformed.
RE:RE:RE:PAKISTAN 'S END SOON
by yadav on Mar 13, 2007 05:37 AM Permalink
Mr Masood, why are u so annoyed when saif talks against pakistan.Pakistan is born out of hatred towards India and is hell bent on distroying India.Every Indian should be happy at the end of its enemy. But there are lot of tritors in this counry like u who have soft corner towards Pakistan.
I foresee fall of Musharraf probably will coincide with the change in leadership United States.
I have noticed and history says whenever change in leadership in USA. The leadership in Pakistan and India takes place.
May be coincidence but worth watching these developments. I dont know whether US Administration dictates these changes or these nations changes its leadership to suit US Administration... But I am sure some Correlation exists.
I request all think tanks to watch on these subject.
Change in US Administration = Change in Pak and Indian leaderships.
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Musaraf is the Hero of Pakistan and none except Musaraf can withstand against the present condition of Pakistan including their developments.
For me if at all USA has the eye on the post musaraf Pakistan, it will be another disaster for such a developed country to their own future developments. Helping Pakistan to fight against terrorism by US would possibly be correct, but not to be interested / look after on their day to day affairs.
Pakistan is also one of the nuclear power holding country in the World and I understands they are matured enough to fight against whatever afghan infested terrorism. Let them raise themselves in whatever military / dictatorship or through their so called democracy. Why cannot the developed country wait and watch their developments in any manner whatsoever they want to do, unless they are harming directly upon others.
Three cheers .. The President Musaraf has a long way to go and make the Pakistani's proud of him.
Pak exploded a device that China handed to it, THAT MEANS It does not have any nukes of its own at all. Yes Balochisthan should be split to prevent Chinas Navy from access to Indians coast and Middle East via Baloch port.
Yet another example how any news about Pakistan get undue importance in our media. The article (story) in question was published in Sunday New York Times, not as a headline story. However, that did not stop our media to flash it as a headline story the next day. NYT, in many senses, is a mouthpiece of the US government, and this news item reflects the current US reservations about the Pak dictator. However, our media should stop from gloating over it.
RE:US may be looking
by Kunal Gujraty on Mar 12, 2007 10:24 PM Permalink
NYT is a mouthpiece of the US government!!! Which planet do you live on? Some of its reporters have spent time in jail for exposing the blatant lies of the Bush govt. Man, check your facts before saying in public. NYT is the most repected newspaper in the country. It has got a lot of credible sources and infact its stories are cited by reporters and other journalists.
This "hope" that if Musharraf is ousted from power (one way or another) a stable replacement with the ability to keep a strong leash on the nuclear arsenal is nothing short of a pipe dream. Objectively Pakistan cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons given it's turbulent condition (and history). Frankly, Pakistan going nuclear in the first place is a shining example of complacency based incompetence of Indian intelligence authorities. Of course, the American's aren't too worried about the Pakistani nuclear bomb... they don't live right next to them. I do however think that it is time Indian foreign policy makers pressurized the USA to de-nuclearize Pakistan.
RE:De-Nuclearize Pakistan NOW!
by hello on Mar 12, 2007 08:30 PM Permalink
Nuclear powers know themselves how important it is to safeguard theirS. There is only one word, either safe-guard or give-up nuclear status voluntarily!!! There is no mix of that!!! That they know!!! I didn't notice, any intelligent deficiency in Indian authorities as you think.
RE:Oppurtunity for India
by Sriram Vaidyanathan on Mar 12, 2007 08:02 PM Permalink
Sir, if you notice carefully all your responses are coloured by emotionalism too. There seems to be no difference between the so called 'weak' monotheistic states and your jingoistic statements. Assertiveness, not aggression; strength of character, not just physical ability is crucial. Moreover , the importance of unity is defined by the purpose of unification. Such a stand is neither moderate nor 'crying like a girl'. It requires true courage. Please self-reflect before you pass your spirit on to youth.
RE:Oppurtunity for India
by Akhilesh R on Mar 12, 2007 08:26 PM Permalink
Your comment is the sickest comment I have ever seen. You should be jailed for irresponsibility.
The phobia that you demonstrate for other religions makes you, in my book, another Taleban.
Pakistan is India's neighbor. We share a lot culturally with Pakistan. We might have suffered at the hands of extremist conquerors, but we're a proud nation right now.
Let's focus on setting the furniture in our house right. Let's get rid of casteism (which is Hinduism's shame) and extreme poverty (India's shame).
Seriously, Pakistan is no more than a thorn in our foot. A nothing. Let's not waste our time thinking about it. There are larger worries facing India.
RE:RE:Oppurtunity for India
by ravindra konapur on Mar 12, 2007 10:29 PM Permalink
SUCH THORNS CREATE GANGRENE ...GUYS WAKE UP.SAYING YESTERDAY I WAS SCREWD ROYALLY BUT TODAY IM HAPPY ...SMELLS OF INSANITY...GET YOURSELF TESTED AT A PHYSCO...I PITY GUYS WHO STILL CRY REMEMBERING OLD INDIA...I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY BRITS LEFT THESE GUYS BEHIND...
There is only one simple flaw in this whole calculation of US. Who is guaranteing that there will be elections post Musharraf? What are the chances of another Military General not taking over as dictator? Afterall Musharraf himself came to power following a coup.
Us will never ever allow any country to live in pace. It is their blood. British played their game and ended up giving the world lot of problems now it is US let us watch what is on the next page. India should take cautious step, example nuclear deal.You are wise enough to guess?
RE:US game plan
by ravindra konapur on Mar 12, 2007 10:25 PM Permalink
Baba imtiyaz, What the hell were these guys doing when brits split them???Guys were dying to lick brits for crumbs(do you remeber mir sadik??)its unfortunate that peolple forget TIPU but remember sadik.
RE:US game plan
by hello on Mar 12, 2007 07:47 PM Permalink
India always cautious, eventhough we have power, we never invaded any country, still holding our soft policy in hope!!! Nuclear Deal is a good one for the energy problem of the 21st century rising power!!! We don't want choas in any neighboring country, but others are not like that, I hope they also change over time!!!
RE:RE:US game plan
by ravindra konapur on Mar 12, 2007 10:22 PM Permalink
How much time??Boss this creed is something like vinegar it cant be added raw to anything edible it has to be fried so that it doesnt punge..Think again they are (idont know the means) doubling every 5 years.Better Attack than defend.
