Discussion Board
Watch this board

Total 879 messages Pages | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5   Older >   >>
Canine menace
by ratnajayant jayant gudavally on May 08, 2007 11:01 AM  Permalink 

Right to live and that too a healthy life is a fundamental right given by the constitution of any welfare state. India, a democratic country is no exception. And no Indian is unworthy for a safe and a healthy life. The older generations should keep in mind that the younger ones are to grow into perfect healthy humans. In which way such considerations that jeopardize the welfare of a society are credible? Is it not depriving the right to LIVE of others, if one opposes the corrective methods? Those who advocate for the perilous animal menace to be not controlled are abetting a crime to endanger the lives of innocents. If a lion or tiger turns a man eater or by mistake kills a human being, does it mean that it is fair to sympathize and delicately admonish the beast? Should the law or protectors of innocent citizens over look these by soft pedaling and cajoling the animals or request them to die according to their pleasure and convenience? OR, forgive them and release the dangerous animals or killers with a warning or chastisement?

Lovers of animals or protectors of pets that are dangerous to human beings should organize themselves and contribute through their services and financial donations, just as foreigners supporting suffering human beings around the world through religious NGO's or Unicef. When the dogs are killed they feel and what about when they see killed human babies? Is it not worthy of compassion? Are%u2019nt the college girls as in Koti Women%u2019s college, Hyderabad, Office and school goers as in kanchanbagh , Hyderabad, Bangalore, Mehboob nagar,Trimalgherry so on and on , all over India worthy of pity?. We should not hinder the welfare of civilization to please our personal sympathy and sentiments for animals that harm humans. This almost tantamounts to encroaching on ones right to live.

Ratna Jayant G, globaljay@rediffmail.com


    Forward  |  Report abuse
This is my message posted on Karnataka Govt. website
by Deepak G Pawar on May 07, 2007 01:05 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is with great sadness that we learnt of little Manjunath's death from dog attack. I hope that his family have the strength to deal with this irrevocable loss. Can ANYONE imagine themselves in the parents' position?



I find it amazing that we are debating whether we should spare these dogs, when the safety of our children is at stake. After all, how can we utter statements like "our children are our Country's future" if we are bent on jeopardising their very existence? The dogs should be culled, mercilessly. Period.



I also wish to draw your attention to the plight of innumerable people who suffer dog bites on a daily basis. These incidents are largely unreported. Having worked in a Government hospital, I have witnessed the hundreds of people that turn up for an anti-rabies injection first thing in the morning of a surgical OPD.



Another group of people whose condition is ignored is the beggars and construction workers who spend their nights on the streets. They often have little children of their own who sleep on the street side where the stray dogs prowl during the nights. This in itself is a lethal combination and a recipe for disaster. Again, the poor people are left to their own devices. I wonder why the voluntary agencies that are so concerned about the dogs' welfare are ignoring this issue?



In an ideal world, there would be no stray dogs at all. They would all be adopted, vaccinated and cared for by doting owners. However the situation in our City and indeed our Country is so out of hand that we simply cannot cater to all the thousands of strays. Unless the Government comes up with a plan of temporarily housing all the strays and neutering them, I see no other alternative to culling. Besides, imagine the manpower and resources required to contain and sustain all the strays.



I have nothing against dogs. Yes, they are 'man's best friends' and loyal and all the rest of it. However we should never forget that once upon a time they lived in the wild and hunted in the same manner as any other carnivorous animal in the wild would. They were domesticated much later, but the animal instinct and ferociousness is still intact. It is well documented that when looking for a kill, they go for the weakest and the smallest, a prey who is least likely to resist. And this, I need not specify, is usually a child playing on the street. And this argument is not confined to the canine family. Any other animal or bird turning out to be a danger to our children should go in the same manner.



I urge the Government not to concede to the unreasonable demands of the voluntary agencies that are taking a rather myopic view of the whole situation. Would they still say the dogs should not be killed if their own children were subjects of attack by these vicious dogs? And has anybody bothered to ask the victims' parents what the approach should be?



I hope that this issue will not meet the same fate as innumerable others; action when the issue is hot and then forgotten when it is off the front pages. Please choose now. Stray dogs or our children?



Thank you



    Forward  |  Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
Must-read on how horrid they can get
by Aman on Apr 28, 2007 01:20 AM  Permalink 

The website with the article quoted is:
http://janakilenin.blogspot.com/2007/01/dogs-and-us.html
READ IT!

    Forward  |  Report abuse
A must-read
by Aman on Apr 28, 2007 01:18 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Here's another wonderful evidence of the service our "best friends" - the stray dogs - have been providing to us:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/388523/poor_filipino_child_with_rabies/

This page has already been cited in many places, and is a must-read.

Eat your heart out, dog lovers!

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Re: A must-read
by animesh shetty on Nov 09, 2011 01:01 AM  Permalink
Get lost u loser...a stray dog would never attack any person unless it is provoked and i am sure it would bite kids only if the kids make the first move. Also even if some stray dogs are dangerous who is giving the Govt the right to kill all of them. Even us humans have people living among us who are flawed, is it that all of us should pay the price? i am saddened that u actually consider urself a human being...you will rot in hell for such inhuman thoughts..be sure of that

   Forward   |   Report abuse
BETTER SEE THIS VIDEO ALL OF YOU!!!
by Aman on Apr 28, 2007 01:10 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Stray dog lovers are over-particular in displaying the "cruel" manner in which pups & dogs are killed. Nice way of skewing public opinion and inducing sentimentality.

Now, ALL OF YOU, LOOK AT THIS VIDEO, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY, AND CHECK OUT FOR YOURSELF WHAT YOUR BEST FRIENDS DO TO HUMAN BEINGS:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/388523/poor_filipino_child_with_rabies/



    Forward  |  Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
searching for answers
by AAISHIK KAR on Apr 23, 2007 05:16 AM  Permalink 

Wonder of wonders! I mean there are some people out there who really LOVE these stray dogs! I wish they put in all that zeal & that energetic vehemence & love, to do something for people starving to death in Orissa. Never mind.
According to AWAs (rather SDWAs) the stray dog issue is one of the many issues which have to be addressed and they are addressing it, while other people are free to address other issues. But _WHY_ are they addressing it, and __WHY IS IT AN ISSUE__, somehow mystifies me, puzzles and bewilders me utterly.
I have not been able to find an answer to a simple question: We stop killing stray dogs. ***THEN WHAT??*** What have we actually accomplished? Are they a species facing extinction? Are they worth preserving? At what cost? Reader, don't you think this energy could rather be put in for animals in REAL danger of extinction?
Yes, _NOT_ killing animals for no particular fault of theirs seems to be some kind of ideal. It _DOES_ speak something about a human being & society. Fine. Agreed. We don't kill stray dogs. SO WHAT?? WHOM ARE WE IMPRESSING?
What great purpose are we satisfying? What are being held accountable for? We have displayed our humanity, our compassion, our spirituality. (Never mind the 50,000 deaths due to rabies and _HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS_ of dog bites in large cities) THEN WHAT?? To whom? For what?
Moreover, str dgs _ARE_ highly problematic.
HOW does _NOT_ killing stray dogs contribute to our harmony of nature is something I utterly fail to understand.
Can anybody explain this to me? Does it take humanity closer to God? Does it give us peace of mind? Does it fill a hungry man's stomach?Does it make men productive & creative? Does it raise humanity's level of knowledge? Does it save vulnerable species from extinction? Does it make zoos cleaner? Does it reduce the amount of filth on the streets? Does it stop poaching & hunting?
Does it stop deforestation & erosion? Does it bring a reduction in global warming? Does it reduce the pollution of water bodies & of air?
WHAT DOES IT ACCOMPLISH?
Honestly, I found myself repeating NO, NO, NO in answer to those questions. They are essential to environmental balance? HOW, really beats me.
If a person stands up & declares that the _KILLING_ of stray dogs _RESTORES_ the balance & welfare of our environment, can the stray dog lover prove him wrong? No, ladies & gentlemen, he ***CANNOT***.
Pay attention to the fact that rare species of turtles are facing outright danger of extinction in Andaman & Nicobar, thanks to our best friends. Everyone knows that stray dogs have been eating up eggs of special turtle species on the beaches of Orissa.
They also hunt down deer, horses & cattle. What service to mankind & nature!
There are no drains & no sewage systems for the 70,000 dogs in Bangalore. But I am reasonably sure that ALL 70,000 dogs defecate & urinate _EVERYDAY_. Does that somehow reduce air pollution & airborne diseases?
A large chunk of waste **GETS ADDED** to human waste & enters our water bodies.
Does the **INCREMENT** in excrement lead to a **REDUCTION** in water-borne diseases?

    Forward  |  Report abuse
VICIOUS DISTORTION & MISREPRESENTATION BY STRAY DOG ACTIVISTS
by Aman on Apr 22, 2007 05:45 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is tiresome. everybody understands that they are not going to relinquish their absurd cause so soon, but to see them fight back with LIES is intolerable.

Animal rights activists keep talking about the "humaneness" of dogs, of dogs being man's best friend, of their loyalty and devotion. They flash pictures of cute puppies and daschunds and spaniels, usually sad-puppy faces of breeds which cost not less than 5,000 bucks apiece. THEY ARE MISLEADING PEOPLE BY DELIBERATELY CONFUSING PET DOGS WITH STRAY DOGS.

All the sentimental trash about dogs maybe applicable to pet dogs. not to stray dogs.

there is no love or loyalty or humaneness about them. they are extremely dangerous 'n violent.

stray dog activsts are splashing articles abt celebreties oohhing 'n aahhing 'n swooning over their pet dogs, conviniently distorting the picture.

stray dogs simply dont behav like the dogs of Koena Mitra or Cyrus Broacha.

Has Koena Mitra even seen a pack of 15 growling dogs? we dont need to learn compassion from a good-for-nothing MTV jockey who rose to fame by walking the streets only in his under-wear.

Misrepresentation over misrepresentation.

The picture projected is that of a costly, high pedigree pet dog belonging to a prosperios family, but the rules actually refer to horrible stray dogs marauding slums and localities where people CANNOT afford dogs.

This is a CONSCIOUS misrepresentation of facts to merely evoke silly sentimentality.

The dogs which we want to be killd are not the puppies of Koena Mitra. There is no relation between the two!

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
Kill
by Chitharanjan Rao on Apr 22, 2007 10:06 AM  Permalink 

Kill....

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Neutering of male dogs is the solution!
by Undertaker on Apr 19, 2007 05:23 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

A male dog and be responsible for fathering many litters of puppies! Even if the survival rate of the puppies is 2 per litter, it still contributes to the stray dog problem!

Neutering of males eliminates their urge to fight and win control of any area and keeps them in check. Which in turn keeps the population in check!

In exceptional cases, the local municipality needs to use strongarm tactics and overcome the pressure imposed by animal rights activists and animal lovwrs groups! For Eg. a stray dog that has bitten once is liable to do it again, such dogs and rabid ones need to be put to sleep!



    Forward  |  Report abuse
RE:Neutering of male dogs is the solution!
by Aman on Apr 19, 2007 03:27 PM  Permalink
There are 70,000 dogs in Hyderabad. That's the official estimate. The hyderabad local govt could make a provision to neuter only 2,000 stray dogs. There are 14,000 stray dogs in Bhubaneswar, the local govt could make provision only for 5,000 stray dogs. At this rate, I wonder if we are not fooling ourselves thinking that neutering will solve problems! (I am not making any reference to you, please note, I am refering to Indians in general).

As a citizen of this country I also think that the municipality rather spent time and money and manpower on mending roads, on enhancing the garbage disposal system, on planting trees and parks and gardens, on creating better sewage systems, on covering manholes (enough people have lost their lives in manholes) rather than waste time and money on stray dogs! That money could be used for education of street children, giving small term loans to financially poor people for self employment, infact, even increasing the pay of the local govt officials themselves, and instead of spending money on stray dogs, spend it on health awareness and medical facilities for the urban poor, for slum dwellers. They need and deserve that money much more than dogs. ... The list is endless.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Neutering of male dogs is the solution!
by Aman on Apr 19, 2007 03:35 PM  Permalink
The above statement is not specifically in reference to your post, only generaly so. It is a more general statement. As the situation stands now, your views are correct. Immense corruption on part of both the stray dog welfare ngos and local govt bodies has accelerated the problem to a screaming pitch. They had better be taken to task and made accountable for this specific activity.

I will also like to add that we cannot WAIT for a stray dog to become ferocious or rabid or diseased and only then destroy it, as many activists keep howling, because by then, it might have already harmed not few people. because we know it ought to be destroyed only when it has already created damage.

Prevention is always better than cure.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
Total 879 messages Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5   Older >   >>
Write a message