it has become a normal practice for Indian police to catch muslims for whatever it is , file a case against them and court will sentence them life imprisonment.
this is the first case that victims are saying that these people have not murdered pandya and court has given them the verdict.
RE:why
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 05:05 PM Permalink
It has become common for indian muslims to participate in crime and then cry islam islam when they are caught. . The victim is dead, man. How can he say who killed him? And the victim's relatives (who are not victims, by the way) were also not present at the time pandya was killed. So, how do THEY know who killed him?
RE:why
by linus on Jun 26, 2007 10:59 AM Permalink
Well the rate of muslims among criminals and people involved in illegal activities are high. The reason for this is high amount of illiteracy and ghettoism practiced by the Muslims. Therefore you find more Muslims being arrested for crimes. Anyways you people are always in a constant state of denial about everything negative about yourselves...so your comment is not surprising..!!
RE:why
by Santosh Kumar on Jun 26, 2007 12:08 PM Permalink
linus, the problem is that if you just observe your surrounding you will never find that actual Muslim criminals are getting caught or encountered by police even in their whole lifetime instead they are killed by their rival groups of criminals. Innocent Muslims are coming under target of police. This will intend their kith and kin to become soft target of ISI for terrorist role in future which would be more worse then now.
RE:why
by linus on Jun 26, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
Santosh, How do we know that those caught are innocent ? You or i are not there to see the facts ? Remember no illegal activity be it smuggling or terrorism can be run without logistical support. And why is that when Muslim Criminals are caught they are innocent.. why doesn't that apply to Hindu/Christian Criminals ? Support for Pakistan and ISI was always there.. remember Muslims consider their Religion to be more important that the country and they have a lot of relatives in Pakistan....
RE:RE:why
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 05:08 PM Permalink
Well, I do not work in the field of law enforcement, so I don't know the "facts" you are presenting here. How did you come to know of these facts? Are you involved in criminal activities?
I can only proudly say " This happens only in India.", Good Leaders Get Slain or Have Accidents, Old Men become Prime Ministers, Unheard of people become Presidents, Poor public pays for Ministers lavish lives. To be a minister you must be uneducated but have a fake degree...Did I forget anything people???
Punishment is meant to make aware the individual on his wrongs go against the interest and harmony of the society and bring such individuals back to mainstream life activities. Punishment always should be a reminder to the society as a whole. Punishment should not be to settle scores. It should be retribution. But in India people usually take the law into their hands depending upon their muscle and money power and background for which they make criminals instrumental to settle scores and killing is the minimum drive they initiate against the rival on ransom. Such criminals in no way deserve pity or reprieve and capital punishment is the ony the least course they deserve. If the killing is evidently substantiated, then they should be hanged. Mrs.Pandey is right.
Why are they blaming Gujarat police and CM? CBI is under direct control of Modi's opponents. CBI's role in Quatrocchi case is proof of its control by Italian well wisher enjoying supreme position in India. In such scenario CBI would never listen Vanzara or Amit Shah or Narendra Modi. It is simply unrealistic that CBI relied on Gujarat Police specially when the central govt is against the political leadership of Gujarat. Baseless allegations of extreme kind has allienated the BJP party workers from Pandya family.
Congrats that a case is sorted out in 3-4 years time. Full sympathy for murder, but I am yet to see a politician/family memberes who accepts the judgements,even given by Supreme Court, particularly corruption, mafia links etc.,etc., Our criminal law needs an amendment that judgements must be given within an year.
All sympathies to Pandya family... It may be possible that Congress may be involved in some way or may have taken advantage of the political situation at that time for defaming Modi by some conspiracy in Gujarat for Haren Pandya.
It is World famous that congress is behind Modi from ages as they have been unable to Win elections from last almost a decade or so in Gujarat. How a BJP man can oppose another BJP man in this way? Remember....Godhra was initiated by Congressmen by Train incident and Modi is still suffering the consequences... Sohrabuddin was also a hardcore criminal... Congress is asking justice for such person...
They ask justice for Afzal Guru..... They have soft corner for Geelani.... Abu Salem is now contesting elections...in Congress Raj....under tight security.... Dawood has also become confident that he too can be a good politician so he intends to return on "good" conditions... So my friends.... maybe nobody still knows the truth...... and I doubt there might be Congress involved here.....(because they are in power and can play "safe")....dirty politics.
RE:RE:Who knows what is the truth?
by Uncomparable on Jun 26, 2007 05:45 PM Permalink
Abdul, I knew you will not be able to understand my theory....In fact, it is beyond your level.... And of course, I am Uncomparable...
RE:Who knows what is the truth?
by Abdul Rahiman on Jun 26, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
You are not comparable to normal human beings, your theory is not comparable and not understandble, so sh..t up.
RE:Who knows what is the truth?
by linus on Jun 26, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
why is it so difficult for you people to accept any other theory other than your own...??? Don't you think you are being overtly assertive ? There is also something called as intelligent debate...No point just shutting people up and denying things. These are facts about the Congress government. Every hardcore radical, criminal or terrorist who is Muslims is very conveniently sheltered by the Congress because he is a Muslim, just to appease Muslims. If anybody points out these facts they are communal..If somebody asserts these facts you bomb them ... Shame on you guys !!
RE:RE:Who knows what is the truth?
by vishal on Jun 26, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
ya he is right. congress is behind modi since long so they can do this. and as such its natural tht cbi follow congress instruction not bjp instruction.
1. Rajesh Pailot 2. Madhav Rao Sindhia 3. Pramod Mahajan 4. G.M.C Balyogi 5. Haren Pandaya and several others. Why the destiny of young politicians is so bad. Misery on Indian Politics. Guess who is the next.
My sincere condolescences to Pandya family. It is sad that clean and honest politicians like Mr. Pandya are getting disappeared in the daylight. India needs people like him. Our society is diverse where people like Mr. Pandya are still not rare. I think it is duty of us all Indian citizens to identify such honest, reponsible and visionary people from our society and elect them to elite posts. Else many sincere politicians will end up with a fate like Mr. Pandya while the cunning ones will rule this country with all their selfish interests.
RE:RE:Knock Suprime Court
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 26, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
abcd, typing mistakes are not to be pointed out? Message board is not the essay writting or english writting competition.
I have found that when some readers have no argument they start finding fault with language/spellings
RE:Knock Suprime Court
by sreekanth agneswaran on Jun 26, 2007 10:30 AM Permalink
Bhau, chill... read carefully... Abcd just corrected his own mistake...
RE:Knock Suprime Court
by jp morgan on Jun 26, 2007 10:24 AM Permalink
It is unfortunate that instead of appreciating a conscience move by a thoughtful reader you're criticizing it. If there is a mistake then it has to be corrected. If we dont show such carefulness then our nation can never become a world leader. Its always these small things that make the big difference.You have to be a perfectionist in whatever you're doing no matter who "small" the task is. Kudos to abcd for showing such high levels of carefulness. Hai-hai to Vinay Gupta for showing such ignorance.
RE:RE:Knock Suprime Court
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 26, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
Morgan, There is a mistake in "no matter who "small" the task is". This way there will be no discussion but essay writting competition or spelling/ grammer correction only.
Your definition of carefulness, world leader, big difference, prefectionist is amazing!
RE:Knock Suprime Court
by jp morgan on Jun 26, 2007 11:01 AM Permalink
Ok. I humbly accept my mistake while writing "no matter who "small" the task is". It should rather have been "no matter how "small" the task is".
Also, just to let you know you yourself made a mistake in "Your definition of carefulness, world leader, big difference, prefectionist is amazing!"
And could you please define the terms carefulness, world leader, big difference and prefectionist, if you think they're wrong ? Or point out if they're wrong in the context in which I have used them ?
RE:Knock Suprime Court
by Cutlet Gravy on Jun 26, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
Suppose, instead of 'Gufta Goo' I write 'Gupta Goo' by some typing mistake, or if abcd says: 'Superwoman Court' or 'Suppository Court' then will that be understood ?
And, who will be so naive as to use these message boards for essay "writting" or "english writting" ? But that does not mean every body must carry on speaking, reading and writing Gupta Goo instead of English.
sare begunah musalmano ko arrest kar liya..aur jo culprit hai modi..wo azad hai..then they say wy muslims are terrorist and wy the bomb blast take place..and wy the quran is like that.. the police ,cbi all against muslims... they have not investigated like the same in afzal case and given the verdict.... thsi is 100% sure that modi has killed hiren pandya..ask his wife..? she will narrate all the story but the cbi is bsuy in convicting innocent muslims in this case...
RE:modi is behind his murder
by shiva raj on Jun 26, 2007 09:44 AM Permalink
Arey true Indian baba, where is Dawood,Tiger mamoon, why do not these begunah muslmans mullas issue a fatwah against these fellows
RE:modi is behind his murder
by H rao on Jun 26, 2007 09:53 AM Permalink
Are False Indian, pls migrate to Afghanistan, you have a very bright future over there. pls spare this country.
RE:modi is behind his murder
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 26, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
Now these INDIANS have lost faith in judiciary also bcoz as per their wish it didnot hanged Modi. So Judiciary is selectively good/ bad for them
RE:modi is behind his murder
by mehtaab khan on Jun 26, 2007 10:40 AM Permalink
tum chahe cheeq cheeq kar bolo phir bhi no one is here to hear you. Im this discussions people want to critisize each other community, even though they know that they are wrong.
RE:RE:modi is behind his murder
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 05:27 PM Permalink
hmm... to bolo na ki you are wrong. mohd was wrong, islam is wrong. can you accept the truths?
RE:modi is behind his murder
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 05:21 PM Permalink
quran modi ke baad likhee gaee hai kyaa? . This is a country of 85% hindus, so the brunt of injustice is faced by us. Why don't we become bombers then? . kaash saare begunaah musalmaan arrested hote. Phir baakiyon kaa encounter kiyaa jaa saktaa thaa. Phir koee gunaah hotaa hee naheen. . you eman, the SC has not investigated anything and given afzal the death sentence???? hahahahahahah. . pandya's wife was not present there. How will she know. Aise to dawood's wife will also say he is not a criminal.
RE:modi is behind his murder
by on Jun 26, 2007 10:41 AM Permalink
hey Mr.indian......pls get out of this rut that u r separate from the rest of the indians.muslims or hindus or anybody else.....u r one of us n u'll only do well once u start believin this.as for the rest of the ppl who replied to his msg......u r being as cheap n narrow minded as he is with ur replies
RE:RE:modi is behind his murder
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 05:31 PM Permalink
haan haan, tumhaare terorism ko defend kar rahaa hai to greatest answer to tum bologe hee. . bewaqoof papistani, naxalite, ltte, ulfa kyaa kuran padhke maarte hain? . By the way, if you were true Indians, you would have supported Israeli army who have been our friends since a long time. Most of the wars we won were because of help with their ammunition and arms. They are also usually the first ones to alert us of impending attacks. But your hatred shows which side you are on.
RE:RE:RE:modi is behind his murder
by mehtaab khan on Jun 26, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
we are true indians, and who the hell are u to ask everytime about our trueness, by the way we are buying arms from russia, america and since couple of years we started to buy arms from israel, it was not isreal arms which help ur to win 1965 and 1971 wars, pehle apni knowledge badao phir aise discussion mein aao
RE:modi is behind his murder
by linus on Jun 26, 2007 11:28 AM Permalink
naxalites, tamil tigers, ulfa are only restricted to the Indian sub continent continent, where as world wide terrorism is practiced by Muslims as they practice their religion..as far as Israel is concerned they are paying you back in the same coin as you do ..you bomb them once.. they bomb you guys twice....basically they kick your a**... so they are terrorists according to you ....:-)
RE:modi is behind his murder
by on Jun 26, 2007 09:41 AM Permalink
There is no such thing as innocent muslims.... are you saying that police just like that picked up a few muslims from the street and built up a case against them? Had that been the case, how did the apex court let go of Geelani, another prime accused in the parliament attack case? Considering the kind of pressure that the CBI was in, they would have done anything & everything to ensure that geelani & co., got the maximum punishment...
Stop living under the illusion that muslims are targeted unnecessarily.. if some muslims are picked up by the police, they surely deserve it...
and you may call yourself true pakistani.... not indian...
