RE:Should Muslims be Educated and brought into stream?
by Gladiator on Jun 26, 2007 01:13 PM Permalink
Literacy has nothing to do with BEHAVIOUR, as you can see 1) Most of the Rediff Users and Editors are Literate Fanatics, who make money by Fueling Communal Hatred Topics 2) Praveen Togadia is a Doctor by Profession and Often Behaves like a Butcher.. 3) Bin Laden is a Civil Engineer and you Know about his capacity.. The Moral of the Story is Literacy has nothing to do with Behaviour... Behaviour is Inbuilt
RE:Should Muslims be Educated and brought into stream?
by Qx on Jun 26, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
To some extent you are right. But this is only 1-5% who are literate but still could not change their behaviour. But 95% changes are brought in by literacy. If you bring them into the stream then they do not have time to do other things.
Have u heard about this saying ?
An empty mind is devils workshop.
So keep them busy, they will do much less harm to the world.
RE:Modi should should file a case for defamation.........
by Qx on Jun 26, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
How much you know about Hiren Pandya, Modi, Mrs Pandya or Vithalbhai Pandya ??
How much you know about CID, CBI or judiciary system ??
First see how simple people have lost lives, money, etc... etc.. because of some wrong doing of some big people.
Justice is blind. So whatever u put in front of them, they will make judgement accordingly. And in many cases people cannot get justice.
Remove the blindness and make the judiciary bold and dynamic. Who can do their own analysis irrespective of the proofs present and hidden.
RE:These buggers made a mistake
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 02:53 PM Permalink
Thankfully, they made a mistake. Because pandya would have been killed by the terrorists anyway.
Rajnath Singh does not know when the party lost its credibility. At the time of firing on Gujjars, Fake encounters, mass killing in Gujarat, record and distribute Sanjay Joshi CD, human trafficking...
Rajnath Singh says there is a necessity to establish party%u2019s credibility. Also he says, party workers will have to sacrifice their personal egos in the larger interest of the organisation (in the interest of the leaders to befool the party members members, supporters and poor people of India).
RE:Rajnath Singh does not know when the party lost its credibility. At the time of firing on Gujjars, Fake encounters, mass killing in Gujarat, record and distribute Sanjay Joshi CD, human trafficking...
by Kishore Babu TVN on Jun 26, 2007 12:47 PM Permalink
Sahadevan , are u ashamed to reveal ur real name...all the culprits/agents in human traffiking are muslims who are helping these MP's...have u forgotten that...
RE:Rajnath Singh does not know when the party lost its credibility. At the time of firing on Gujjars, Fake encounters, mass killing in Gujarat, record and distribute Sanjay Joshi CD, human trafficking...
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 03:06 PM Permalink
firing on gujjars was a legitimate act to protect the security. If wealthy gujjars can ask for ST status and kill for it, why shouldn't they be fired at? . Just 1 fake encounter has been reported. Why have you made it "encounters"?? . What mass killing in gujarat? Are you talking of godhra? Yes, tell me - when did you want justice to be given for that??? . Sanjay joshi CD - 1. It was not a sanjay joshi CD. it was someone else, as proved already by investigators. 2. What is your problem with someone having consensual sex? . human trafficking was the personal business of the accused and he is going to pay for it. It has nothin to do with bjp. BJP dismissed him from the party. Does your congress have the guts to dismiss the chors in its party?
RE:Beware of BJP/VHP/RSS netas!!!
by Ramakrishna Panicker on Jun 26, 2007 11:41 AM Permalink
Dear Sahadevan, we remember, before days there was an ad of Mr. Kapildev on a shaving cream wherein he says that "us shaving cream ka javab nahin".
Like we feel that "Beware of BJP/VHP/RSS netas" Sahadevan ka baton ka javab nahin.
RE:RE:RE:Beware of BJP/VHP/RSS netas!!!
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 03:15 PM Permalink
Well, India was shining at the time, unlike when you distributed "40 years of freedom" stickers worth crores when India actually had 40 years of corruption and oppression by the congress govt.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Beware of BJP/VHP/RSS netas!!!
by Kishore Babu TVN on Jun 26, 2007 12:47 PM Permalink
Browning hospital wants to construct hostle for its PG doctors in its un-utilised land which is adjacent to hospital.The heads of muslisms wants that land to be given to mosque as it is besides mosque too, to construct madrassa there. The land belongs to the hospital(it is Govt Hospital) but still these ppl made lot of nusiance to acquire tha land. and all shops are closed fearing riots by these ppl.seculars pl open your mouths...
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Beware of BJP/VHP/RSS netas!!!
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
:-)), kishore, seculars will open their mouth only if it is a temple asking for land, even if it is the temple's own land.
RE:Have faith in judiciary
by Ramakrishna Panicker on Jun 26, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
Yes, we keep faith in judiciary and our Gods and Goddesses otherwise we all give away our faith to live.
We have to keep faith in our politicians and their words before coming to power, thereafter, thik all happenings are our fortune.
We have at least Allah, Ram and Chirist to pray and relax. Let the wrong doers to succeed in the name of Religion and Caste.
Although justice appears to be done, it is revealing that the father and widow of the deceased are not satisfied. It is still not too late. They should petition the High Court or Supreme Court pointing out all the glaring discrepancies in the investigations, especially in view of Vanzara's involvement. It is not likely that Modi would assist them, especially if skeletons are likely to spill out of the closet in a re-investigation. NGO's like Teesta Setalvads Citizens for Justice and Peace could perhaps assist, though if they did it would be ironic in view of Haren Pandya's role in the riots.
RE:Justice?
by Santosh Kumar on Jun 26, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
Miharika, who will do re-investigation? Again this bl**** CBI (our top investigating agency) and then outcome will remain same.
It is generally perceived that the Chief Minister of Gujrat is ADAM KHOR and Vanzara was his mark man.Mrs Pandeya our symapthy is with you ans shall be very happy if you get the justice.Getting justice is not impossible as our judiciary really great.The judges feel helpless when the evidences are detsroyed or not produced that leads to decisions that you got. Person like Modi / Vanzara are as cruel and merciless as Azhar Masood , Dawood Ibrahim and other terrorist.It is unfortunate that these people are moving free in society and command lot of power. Their right place is mental assylum and hell.
RE:Haren Pandeya
by Billy Zane on Jun 26, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
shibli, yaar dont worry, this story proves that modi is a virus, when he dont get innocent hosts (muslims), he will start eating his own species
RE:Haren Pandeya
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 04:39 PM Permalink
billy - how does this story prove that modi is a virus? In fact, it proves that you muslims are virally against modi because muslims were justifiedly killed in his state by the common public, resulting in a hurt muslim ego.
RE:Haren Pandeya
by kraft on Jun 26, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
You only need a baseless allegation and all the so-called "Minority" will gang up to attack Modi! When the CBI is under the thumb of Quottorochi's friends [The Congress Party] how Modi or Vanjara could have done anything?
RE:Haren Pandeya
by linus on Jun 26, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
Definition of virus: Living off the host and destroying it. A lot of Muslims are born here, live here, eat here, marry here, produce children here, earn their living here and still do not love this land. They do everything that can aid to destroy this country. So i guess now you know who the real virus is...
RE:Haren Pandeya
by Santosh Kumar on Jun 26, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
Correct linus, Same as of our Neta, bureaucrat, Tax thieves and corrupt government employees etc (unfortunately 90% of them belongs to our so called patriotic HINDU community) are born here, live here, eat here, marry here, produce children here, earn their living here and still do not love this land and do not loose any chance to loot this country. Unfortunately history also proves the same, that is why outsiders got chance to ruled this country for 700 years.
RE:RE:Haren Pandeya
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 04:48 PM Permalink
yes, but they do not do it because it is written in some scripture. They do it rather because they are selfish and are actually going against the scriptures / guidelines. . this is not the same as terrorism is islam which is very much a written facet. Have you ever heard of these politicians, bureaucrats, tax thieves studying in hindu seminaries (like madarssas) and praying 5 times a day? Well, muslim terrorists do. Have you ever heard these politicians, bureaucrats, tax thieves learning the geeta / other books by heart and participating in religious activities in letter and spirit??? No, but islamic terrorists do. Is it so difficult to correlate the source of problems?
RE:RE:Haren Pandeya
by Billy Zane on Jun 26, 2007 02:04 PM Permalink
mr linus, the religion based politics is not fault of muslims, rather it is politicians who try to play game, bjp play hindu vote bank, sp play muslim vote bank, mayawati play backward game, who told u that muslims love pakistan, instead we hate this country who dont want to dominate, u go any where in country watever sect or community live in a housing society or colony or mohalla, they dominate with there customs no any muslim is begging, but yes legal rights we will demand like freedom of speech, freedom of practice our religion frm where u got this information about agenda of making islamic country, rather christians r trying to make such by attacking iraq, afghanistan, lebanon, bombing of ppl in train or buses done by terrorist, wether it is ulfa, ltte, khalistani or kashmiri, they have no religion, & my religion never says abt killing of innocent what wrong in giving fund by saudi govt to help economically poor muslims across the world, & spreading islam dawood is muslim but lot of his aides r hindu this fact u also know, economic destabilisation is done by not only dawood but all corrupt politicians & beauraucrats parliament attack is the most shameful act which I condemn & ask govt to hang culprit as soon as possible, it was done by kashmiri terrorists who have nothing todo with religion, traitors r not 2 cr rather say 8 cr 2 cr muslim rest all hindu
RE:RE:RE:Haren Pandeya
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 04:54 PM Permalink
billy - religion based politics IS a fault of muslims because you have let politicians take advantage of you. About hindu vote, there is no such thing as hindu vote. We are 85% of our country. Do you think BJP (or any party) gets 85% of the vote? Do you realise that you cannot pander to 85% of the population without targetting real issues like quality of life, transport, water, etc, etc.? . Domination - I agree, most people in the world want to dominate. Yet, it is only hindootwa and its resultant sects like Jainism and Buddhism that have tried to kill the spirit of domination among its followers. islam and xtianity openly cohort their followers to dominate others. . You already have legal rights of freedom of speech and practice of religion. So, there is no need to demand it, unless by practice of reliigon, you mean killing people. Forget about christians and iraq - we are talking about muslims and India. It is very clear that you want to make this country dar ul-islam from dar ul-harb. . ulfa, ltte etc do not follow any religious practice by bombimg innocents. muslims do. . the saudi fund is not meant for poor muslims (although that is the garb used). It is meant to destroy this country. . After the 93 blasts, the hindu aides sided with chhota rajan and helped the authorities nab many of dawood's traitors. . Yes, economic destabilisation is done by not only dawood but all corrupt politicians & beauraucrats but they don't have a religious agenda like dawood.
RE:RE:RE:Haren Pandeya
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 05:00 PM Permalink
Also, you cannot say that kashmiri terrorists have nothing to do with religion. They got full support from pakistan and the whole fight is based on religion. If they were hindus, they wouldn't have been dying to unite with pakistan. . Once again, if india has 8 cr traitors - 2 cr muslims (although the number would be closer to 100% = 20 crores approx) and 6 cr hindus, you need to understand that the treachery of hindus here is not BECAUSE of but IN SPITE of hindootwa. The treachery of muslims, however, is BECAUSE of islam and its diktats.
RE:Haren Pandeya
by John Corniche on Jun 26, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
WELL SAID Linus ...
It is getting proved world over. Phillippines, Thailand, Darfur, Iraq, Iran, Israel, break-away Republics of former USSR. (Not to mention Pak & Afganistan ... becoz they will be on this list regularly).
The whole problem is becoz of Saudis ... they are exporting a "WAHABI" brand of Islam to world over. One of the offshoots is Osama.
RE:Haren Pandeya
by vishal on Jun 26, 2007 11:33 AM Permalink
very well said linus...90%of muslims r good but d remain 10% destroy image of all. pls those remaining 10% leave india...get lost...go to pakistan...
RE:Haren Pandeya
by Billy Zane on Jun 26, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
very correct vishal, i agree, it will be more than 10% you can send them any where out of india, same percent of hindus are also bad, tell me where u r sending them & mr linus we dont need any certificate frm you how much we love our land, it is britishers (read christians) who made a gap between these two major religions of india & somehow we cant fill this gap after giving so many lives so be happy linus & john
RE:Haren Pandeya
by linus on Jun 26, 2007 12:37 PM Permalink
Well i am happy mr. billy zane.. only unhappy about the way things/politics happen in our country based on religious mattesr...and most of it seems to happen because of the uncompromising nature about you people and your love for Pakistan...you follow a agenda of trying to dominate others with whatever practices you can ..be it begging for minority rights to bombing people in trains and buses...your agenda of having a Islamic country with no borders spreading from India to the Gulf to be ruled by a Islamic leader...I am unhappy of the constant problems created in the name of your religion, unhappy about you people destroying the country from within.. unhappy about a a Muslim don dawood's collaboration with a Muslim coutries Pak/Bangladesh to print counterfeit money to de stablise the economy.. unhappy about the terrorism in kashmir...unhappy about the illegal Muslim immigration from Bangladesh...unhappy about the funds being sent by Muslims countries like Saudi to spread Islam..unhappy that you consider your religion above the country .. unhappy that you do not respect other religions...unhappy that you bomb innocent people traveling in trains and buses in Mumbai, Chennai and Kashmir, unhappy that Muslim terrorists attacked the very heart of Democracy ( the Parliament )and are getting away with it.. and please note your 10% is equal to a couple of crores..as you are around 21 % to 23% of the population.. so we have around 2 crore traitors who would rather be in Pakistan.....
RE:RE:Haren Pandeya
by Kaushik Das on Jun 26, 2007 04:36 PM Permalink
billy - it is not britishers but mohd and quran which divided other religions from islam. . Hindus who are bad are not bad BECAUSE of hindootwa but depite it. muslims who are bad are bad because of islam. In fact, strangely, muslims who are good are so despite islam.
RE:RE:Haren Pandeya
by Ramakrishna Panicker on Jun 26, 2007 11:03 AM Permalink
Dear Billy, your innocent hosts are really became a gift to the entire world now. Almighty may, however, save them in their activities.
God may keep Mrs Pandya, children and family members to heal their pain for ever.
