RE:why is she still living in america & criticising ?
by debi rath on Jun 22, 2007 10:01 PM Permalink
Nobody has invited her to stay in US...so she should go anywhere she likes....why not India..
It is a well known fact that her education was sponsored by the Saudi Wahhabis via the BCCI bank. Thus ban was was indicted and debarred by US authorities due to its terrorism, and Jihadist money laundering. BCCI was well connected in India too with the then Finance Minister of India in 90s.
Further all the US Law firms fighting for terrorists, or planting fake stories in newspapers to get terrorists off do on average $40-$50 million business with Saudis. Also people funding ACLU are very tight with the Wahhbi lobby.
So in nutshell it is all about the money, and MS Singh is nothing but yet another Jihadist moll fighting for the terrorist. With this kind of mindset no wonder Indian are getting killed by terrorists everyday
RE:Amrita Singhs Wahhabi Saudi Connection
by Rehan on Jun 22, 2007 08:37 PM Permalink
Ah.... another Stephen Speilburg..... Lets make a movies called Consipriracy Theory
RE:RE:Amrita Singhs Wahhabi Saudi Connection
by adfasd asdasd on Jun 22, 2007 07:52 PM Permalink
Do you have any information about the "US firms" that are connected to people fighting the terrorists?????
Americans hate terrorists for a reason, they were attacked by them. In India people hate based on caste for no rhyme or reason. What harm has the poor rickshaw puller or a house maid done to deserve a humilitating treatment? What harm has a poor low caste child done to deserve disgusting treatment? How many high caste people lost these lowly paid jobs of a rickshaw puller, a house maid, a servant, a laborer as a result of reservations? Indians who practice caste based discrimination in India and then go to America and complain about discrimination in America are hypocrites and shouldn't be taken seriourly. Instead of Bush, Amrit Kaur should condemn her father the Prime Minister of India for not fighting the caste system as a critical issue. Eleminating the caste system will help in making the lives of one billion people better.
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by adfasd asdasd on Jun 22, 2007 07:43 PM Permalink
OK just try to list out from 1950 with DATES how many attacks the terrorists made on America...
and how many times America attacked the terrorists' countries either directly or through its stooges like Israel...
you will get the picture my friend....I feel sorry for Americans, as its populace is suffering for the imperialist and materialistic greed of its government....
If you keep silent now...it will be knowking on your door next, it has come next door to India VIA Pakistan
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 22, 2007 08:10 PM Permalink
adfasd asdasd >> I don't know your religion but you do sound like a terrorist or a terrorist supportor at heart. Yes - Bush and his cronies are smart people and people hate them because he has taken the war to the heart of the enemy. America is losing soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan but that is nothing compared what the Islamic fundamentalists will inflict on them if they are allowed to live in peace. If the terrorists bomb a road ; you bomb their city ; if they bomb a buliding you destroy the country and if they bomb a city you destroy ALL of them - this is the philosphy America follows - and believe me if Osama and his friends are able to nuke a city in America - nothing will be left of his one billion followers. America has the power to do it and it will do it. Ask the Japanese, the Germans , the Vietnames , the Iraqis and the Taliban....on this aspect there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats.
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by adfasd asdasd on Jun 22, 2007 08:18 PM Permalink
By no means i am trying to justify terrorists or their acts, they should be hanged....
Brother you wait and watch....its the turn of India/China next after they are done with middle-east....
Why do you think India cannot finish off Pakistan even after so much of turmoil caused by pakistan's ISI and army....Its because of America...
In fact if americans do not support Musharraf and the pak army, believe we will have a peaceful neighbourhood.
We had terrorists in Punjab as well...did we finish off Punjab to finish off terrorism...we have terrorists in Assam as well can we finish off Assam????
What have the americans achieved in 20 years of war on terrorism....has Osama's following reduced or increased ten-fold...
Terrorism is not an army which can be fought with, it is an ideology and history is proof that ideology can only be defeated by ideology.
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 22, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
The terrorists in Punjab did not have much support of masses because that activity was conflicting with the religious beliefs of Sikhs. In case of ULFA - again the assamese are not supporting terrorism - and ULFA does not randomly target civillians. In case of Islamic terrorism - the war is very different - its a fight against a belief that is commited to either convert others or kill them with masses supporting that. That leaves fewer options for America and rest of the world to work with.
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by adfasd asdasd on Jun 22, 2007 08:36 PM Permalink
Thats very illogical....
Osama and his followers did not go to america to convert Christians to Islam at any point of time...
Let me enlighten you a bit here...there is 2 very distinct separate group of islamists...1 which goes about trying to convert people as there are christian and Buddhist missionaries... and another group that feels that islam is in danger and the enemy is America and its supporters and thinks it is waging a Jihad against it...
I do not agree with both....but thats the fact.
Also as Punjabis and assamese in a majority do not support terrorism, in the same way Muslims do not support terrorism....Please understand Muslims are more than 20% of world population...if all of them were terrorist you would not find them so hard to find, you wont have to go to the caves in Afghanistan for them.
RE:RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by adfasd asdasd on Jun 22, 2007 08:38 PM Permalink
I hope you now understand that i am not an islamic terrorist or its supporter....
By the same coin from your above comments i know that you ar enot an ULFA or sikh terrorist or its supporter
RE:RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by adfasd asdasd on Jun 22, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
Oh yes by the way i am muslim who hates osama more that you or any other hindu/christian does....since he is the reason for the misery of innocent muslims worldover....
But i hate Bush more than Osama as he is the reason why we have Osama and his ideologies being followed
RE:RE:RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 22, 2007 08:26 PM Permalink
Don't try and create "reasonableness" in your argument - Osama was an A class terrorist with mass following before Bush even realised he existed. In fact one reason for Osama being successful for 9-11 was because Bush was negligent about the harm Osama can cause. But once Bush acted - Osama is gone - and his supporters are only killing other muslims and terrorism against America has not happened since then.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by adfasd asdasd on Jun 22, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
I agree Osama is an A class terrorist....Do you know that Senior Bush and US government paid Osama to strenthen Taliban????
They wanted a strong Taliban to keep a tab on Russia...
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by Shankar Panday on Jun 22, 2007 07:51 PM Permalink
You are overplaying the caste issue..Indian society by & large is extremely humane, and no society is tested more than an Indian esp Hindu...just fact that India gets along in such diversity is testimony to Indias human values...yes problems exist, but think of it this way - Ambedkar bashed Hinduism and ended up being a national figure and got to write Indias constitution, Salman Rushdie writes a book and they want his head !! think in another angle as well..just ONE 911, just ONE..and u hv 29% Americans polling they would want to TAG Muslims..can u even imagine anyhting like that in India?? can u imagine the Indian PM using terms like Islamofascism, Crusade etc??? can u name even from the so called Hindu party people who do that with conviction?? do u hv talk shows like Michael Savage of Rush Limbaugh in India routinely calling a spade a spade in no uncertain terms...hey come on Kumar have a heart when u talk abt India!1
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by Rehan on Jun 22, 2007 08:40 PM Permalink
Hi Bro,..... You shuld have revealed who you are.... Now people will be behind your....
This entire forum I have oberved, anything to do with Muslims/Islam, the discussion suddenly gets crowded......
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by Vas on Jun 22, 2007 08:20 PM Permalink
Methinks you rake up the caste issue too much, whatever the subject is. Your showing yourself up as a caste/religion opportunist. For people like you, the US is the best place. You certainly can't play the caste card there, but no doubt you can play the religious card there. Just make sure that the chain with the cross you wear is VERY large and visible.
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by Kumar on Jun 23, 2007 02:09 AM Permalink
I don't think I rake up too much about the issue that has caused and is still causing slavery, lack of law and order and lack of ethics, morality and justice in the Indian society. The repercussions of the caste system that causes a lack of empathy for fellow citizens, prevents people from attaining their true potential are leathal. We can never talk enough about the bane of the caste system that has destroyed and contines to destroy India.
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by Vas on Jun 23, 2007 02:39 AM Permalink
So lets start by not raking it up all the time. It seems more like you want to keep the issue alive, so that anti-hindu opportunists (perhaps you belong to that quarter despite your quoting Vivekananda now and then - but then I've known christian missionaries quote the gita and krishna to show that the entire hindu religion points to Jesus).
The problem in India is the over dose of caste politics, and not enough of coming to the root cause of the problem - ineffective implementation of the affirmative action programs, and constant and convenient scape-goating of certain castes so that those who are truly responsible for the caste crimes can escape the law. Either you are a christo, who takes every opportunity to keep the caste issue alive for the benefit of conversion, or you belong to certain OBC caste that is actually responsible for all the atrocities against the dalits/SCs and are making a lot of noise to divert attention. Tick one...
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by Kumar on Jun 25, 2007 09:25 PM Permalink
See, this is the problem with India! You cannot even imagine that I am against the caste system because I am sure it is the single most factor destroying India. You have to tag me to be belonging to a certain group A or group B. I have a great love for justice, fairness and ethics, this is missing from India from the past 3000 years, and every time India tries to build these values the caste system comes and destroys it. I must have quoted Vivekananda in the past beacuse I feel he thinks like a rationalist and a scientist that resonates well with my own thinking, lot of other religious leaders are not scientific and ration enough to hold my attention for long. But that's besides the point, the caste system is still winning against India because it has strong allies in vested intrests and unethical crooks.
RE:Americans hate terrorists for a reason
by adfasd asdasd on Jun 22, 2007 07:41 PM Permalink
There is an excellent dialogue in a hindi film.... "Terrorist Kheto mein nahi ugte"!!!
By no means i am trying to justify terrorists or their acts, they should be hanged....
But the solution to the terrorist problem is not what you have suggest...terrorism is a social problem and has social solutions...Terrorism cannot be won over by force!!!!!
That is why the whole world is calling Bush and Idiot. Incidentally i agree with you and Bush is not an idiot but a shrewd businessman who knows how to fish in troubled waters...
Does anyone know that the first rule that the Iraq's "democratically" elected government took was to open its oil wells to the western companies....do we know that Donald Rumsfeld and his companies has been the greatest beneficiary of the oil and oil for food programs....
BY killing innocents from the terrorist population pockets bush is only justifying the terrorist
Similarly by killing the innocent civilians the terrorists are justifying Bush and others like him
Amrit Singh should fight the caste system in India. This will affect 1000 times more lives. Discrimination in America is like child's play compared to caste based discrimination in India. What is her father doing to end the caste system in India? Wagging his tail behind madam Sonia? Lot of Indians who practice caste based discrimination back home in India have no right to even comment on US descrimination. If they do then they are hypocrites.
RE:Amrit Singh should fight the caste based discrimination in India.
by Shankar Panday on Jun 22, 2007 07:58 PM Permalink
Thrs nothing to fight abt caste unless u educate people..education = awareness = jobs= money etc..when ppl hv same amount of money they are equal..religion is not so much a function of equality, money is.. Pls dont forget white christian KKK burn Black churches in US regularly !
RE:Amrit Singh should fight the caste based discrimination in India.
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 22, 2007 08:16 PM Permalink
Pandayji - the last round of Black Church burning happened in the 1960s - US has progressed a lot since then ... you are the kind who benefit from caste system and will try very hard to preserve it. The only time caste looks bad is when the reservation issue comes up. Wake up man before you become totally irrelavent.
RE:Amrit Singh should fight the caste based discrimination in India.
by Vas on Jun 22, 2007 08:20 PM Permalink
The biggest hypocrite is you! You, like Manmohan Singh and Sonia, rake up the caste issue for your convenience (the UPA for political benefit, and you for personal benefit). In short, another caste opportunist.
If anything, Manmohan singh has been instrumental for treating the Hindus pretty much the way Singh's daughter accuses Bush of treating the Sikhs and other south Asians.
RE:Amrit Singh should fight the caste based discrimination in India.
by Kumar on Jun 23, 2007 02:10 AM Permalink
I don't think I rake up too much about the issue that has caused and is still causing slavery, lack of law and order and lack of ethics, morality and justice in the Indian society. The repercussions of the caste system that causes a lack of empathy for fellow citizens, prevents people from attaining their true potential are leathal. We can never talk enough about the bane of the caste system that has destroyed and contines to destroy India.
We have to now grow and understand that we live in a global village.....
Americans should understand that if they want to use the brains of Asians and Indians in particular, then they have to give back respect to the asian communities....
RE:global village!!!!
by nawneet lamba on Jun 22, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
Mr. Cutlet Gravy "Rome" empire vanished from earth because of it's non-sensitiveness to people in general. What American Culture u want to follow- 90% kids growing up in daycares, 50% kids not passing there tests!, kids bringing guns to schools! 90% marriages resulting in divorces! Mr. Cutlet - we are very proud to be INDIANs and we have come to America to show Americans that there exists a better culture than there's.
America has it's own plus and that is what attracts people from all over the world to come here - but it does have some faults too - and we are not to accept that.
RE:RE:global village!!!!
by adfasd asdasd on Jun 22, 2007 07:13 PM Permalink
Also... we do not ask our foreign dignitaries to wear Indian dresses or put tikkas or eat only vegetarian food.....
She talks the community is largely law abiding .that is accepted.But what bush is concerned is about the rest of the community which are terrorists,belong to that community.Otherwise the whole community would have been vanquished by now.Just to tell that Bush is an idiot ,he has taken all wrong decessions is totally baseless . The terrorists has a face and pockets somewhere else. They wont be leaving all their identity after the crime .If one always look for evidences I doubt the international situation wont improve . So to stop terrorists some innocent people might die ,but they should be punished to their root .No excuse for that . This is a fight .. some one has to win and common people will suffer little for the betterment of their future upsprings.What message these terrorists are spreading ..?They want all to be of their religion..they are the gods messengers .. they can uplift the human being ..what messege they are spreading .?The intention is to rule in the name of their god ( whom they dont believe)the whole world like the Nazis trying gain.They should be crushed with their family. This is a simple way of gaining popularity and mileage by supporting those criminals for mrs singh.Once their relative become the victims then they will realise the truth.
RE:why hate Bush ...?
by adfasd asdasd on Jun 22, 2007 07:09 PM Permalink
There is an excellent dialogue in a hindi film.... "Terrorist Kheto mein nahi ugte"!!!
By no means i am trying to justify terrorists or their acts, they should be hanged....
But the solution to the terrorist problem is not what you have suggest...terrorism is a social problem and has social solutions...Terrorism cannot be won over by force!!!!!
That is why the whole world is calling Bush and Idiot. Incidentally i agree with you and Bush is not an idiot but a shrewd businessman who knows how to fish in troubled waters...
Does anyone know that the first rule that the Iraq's "democratically" elected government took was to open its oil wells to the western companies....do we know that Donald Rumsfeld and his companies has been the greatest beneficiary of the oil and oil for food programs....
BY killing innocents from the terrorist population pockets bush is only justifying the terrorist
Similarly by killing the innocent civilians the terrorists are justifying Bush and others like him
