RE:Islam gives u license to *rape.........to all islamists in this forum
by Awaara Uncle on Jun 11, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
Hello, we are discussing purification here. Not rape. Just like we are not discussing Sati here.
RE:Islam gives u license to *rape.........to all islamists in this forum
by Ravi Iyer on Jun 11, 2007 09:19 PM Permalink
Yes Abhinav,
Stick to the discussion on "purification".
Once the whole country is "purified" and cleansed of descendents of rape victims of the many arab invasions throughout history, cases like those of Imrana will be irrelevant!!
If the temple authorities have already declared that temple is only for certain group of people why these people goto such temples and make huge issue out of it.
If you really believe in that god, convert to that religion or keep urself off. unnecessary issues.
If the priests are saying they cannot change rules, find a temple of religion that suits ur needs. Eak gadha dusareki khujata hai, dusara gadha pani dalkar use saf karata hai, fir sare gadhe chillane lagate hai are usane apani saaf ki.. its descrimination.
Nation has more important issue to be discussed than this.
RE:AWARA KATELA
by JGN on Jun 11, 2007 08:56 PM Permalink
Why do you reduce the number of virgins for Awara? Allah has allotted 72 virgins. Do you want to keep a share for you?
RE:RE:AWARA KATELA
by Awaara Uncle on Jun 11, 2007 09:05 PM Permalink
Dear purificationwallahs, please run away from impure countries like Gulf and U$A. You will not be able to purify those places. Why stay there or go there? Stop learning impure languages like English and stick to Sanskrit only. Also, stop wearing khakhi shorts and wear LANGOTI only.
Criticism is well tolerated rather encouraged in Hindu religion and good suggestions are accepted and implemented. So it is just a matter of time the practice of temple purification will disappear. Untouchability in any form should be condemned. The temple priests should desist from discrimination and concentrate on the service of God. Any society based on religious edicts will create hatred and unrest. It will lead to exploitation as we see in many countries. Religion is opium. It is also poison.
RE:Hindu Religion is Tolerant for Criticism
by DrYNI Anand on Jun 11, 2007 09:57 PM Permalink
All the contributors please note that is NOT "caste" but "religion" that is being discussed. The question is whether a person born to a Christian mother is entitled to perform religious rites in a Hindu Temple. Well, if the temple rules say "No", it is "No"!. All those who oppose temple purification may please fight for entry of all communities into Kaaba and talk thereafter, if ever you succeed. Otherwise, kindly do not engage in verbal duals. Please go to Middle East and see for yourselves as to how you are discriminated against. In fact, when I raised the issue of Kaaba with one Muslim lady, she coolly suggested that I should convert to Islam. Same rule applies here also!! Thanks
RE:Hindu Religion is Tolerant for Criticism
by Blaster on Jun 11, 2007 08:54 PM Permalink
The list of tolerant groups are RSS, VHP, Shiv Sena, Bangar Dal, BJP and the chief leaders are Modi, Advani and Tharkrey.
RE:Hindu Religion is Tolerant for Criticism
by Awaara Uncle on Jun 11, 2007 08:58 PM Permalink
Hey! You seem to forget that there are lots of "TOLERANT" guys of the same variety lurking around here right now...
RE:RE:Hindu Religion is Tolerant for Criticism
by Awaara Uncle on Jun 11, 2007 08:59 PM Permalink
Such "TOLERANT" guys claim that Taj Mahal is a Hindu temple. Who knows, they may want to purify TAJ MAHAL also.
RE:RE:Hindu Religion is Tolerant for Criticism
by Awaara Uncle on Jun 11, 2007 09:23 PM Permalink
Don't blame me if you become the first victim of such purification. And never forget that you are the minority, not the people who are fighting for private sector reservations. You cannot touch them.
RE:Hindu Religion is Tolerant for Criticism
by Sunit Kumar on Jun 11, 2007 09:03 PM Permalink
Awaara Uncle, u r still reading ur Comic books published in ur local MAD !!!
RE:Hindu Religion is Tolerant for Criticism
by Awaara Uncle on Jun 11, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
All your purification will finally end in a great Agnipariskha called all-India caste riots for private sector reservation. That will be the end of all purification.
When the temple administration goes in the hands of a secular government, these controversies are bound to happen. How can a secular government decide on the religious issues. Have Government nominated Highly religious personalities to guide them , or have government sought the guidance from the High Religious Traditional Personalities on this issue?
Oh Christians and Oh Muslims! you all are lucky that your Churches and Madarsas are not under government rule. As far as Hindus are concerned the controversies are arising after 2-3 decades of Government control over temples.. in your case if these things happen I am sure the controversies would arise the very next second and the very next second there may cause riots ..
RE:Government Creates Controversy in Temple
by Awaara Uncle on Jun 11, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
Not only must churches and mosques be nationalised and put under government control, there should be uniform secular civil code also.
RE:Government Creates Controversy in Temple
by on Jun 11, 2007 08:59 PM Permalink
if you nationalize our churches, we'll riot. Church belongs to God, not to the state
RE:RE:Government Creates Controversy in Temple
by Sunit Kumar on Jun 11, 2007 09:16 PM Permalink
What has management got to do with GOD, GOD will still be there....i dont get ur logic, by the way if u riot some of u might actually get the chance of meeting god early !!!
RE:Government Creates Controversy in Temple
by Varughese Thomas on Jun 11, 2007 09:25 PM Permalink
because the state cannot be allowed to decide what the faith or beliefs of the church is.
RE:Government Creates Controversy in Temple
by Sunit Kumar on Jun 11, 2007 09:14 PM Permalink
Awaara Uncle, man u have made the first PERFECT comment. Badhaai !!
RE:Government Creates Controversy in Temple
by ahamed sharif on Jun 11, 2007 08:48 PM Permalink
No purification is done in Mosque and madrasas after any human being enters it.
RE:Government Creates Controversy in Temple
by Blaster on Jun 11, 2007 08:55 PM Permalink
Prasad please read the complete message board you will know you are wrong. Shame on you for your lack of knowledge.
RE:Government Creates Controversy in Temple
by basava dontamsetti on Jun 11, 2007 08:59 PM Permalink
A small correction .... No non muslim dare to get into mosque
RE:Government Creates Controversy in Temple
by JGN on Jun 11, 2007 08:57 PM Permalink
Dear Ahmed, then why Ahmedias are not allowed to worship in similar way as other Muslims?
Singer K J Jesudhas refused entry to Sabri Mallai Ayyappa Temple! Jesudhas a christian converted to Hindu was refused entry in Ayyappa Temple. He has sang load of songs about Ayyappa and is one of the devotee of swami Ayyappa. Why this discrimination.
RE:Singer K J Jesudhas refused entry to Sabri Mallai Ayyappa Temple!
by vinu manijose on Jun 11, 2007 09:02 PM Permalink
1. He wasnt denied entry to sabari mala. Thousands of non hindus go to sabari mala every year and nobody objects to it. 2. you surely mean the same guruvayoor temple. and, 3. yesudas has not converted
RE:Singer K J Jesudhas refused entry to Sabri Mallai Ayyappa Temple!
by Awaara Uncle on Jun 11, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
Those who are in the habit of discriminating have to discriminate against somebody or the other. It is in their very nature and genes to discriminate and exclude.
RE:Singer K J Jesudhas refused entry to Sabri Mallai Ayyappa Temple!
by Robert Shane on Jun 11, 2007 08:57 PM Permalink
Get your facts right before writing anything here. 1. Yesudas/Jesudas is not a convert. He was always a christian. 2. Temple is Guruvayoor and not Shabarimala. For your information, in Shabarimala all religions are allowed. One main diety there is Vavar, Who is a muslim. 3. If Yesudas sang songs for anybody he got paid for it. So it was not outof devotion alone that he sang songs. 4. Yesudas is a great singer and he personally has no problems for not being let into Guruvayoor temple. Like a true Indian, he says that God is one and Guruvayoorappan is in his heart and he is content.
RE:Singer K J Jesudhas refused entry to Sabri Mallai Ayyappa Temple!
by PKV Pillai on Jun 11, 2007 08:57 PM Permalink
KJ Jesudas has declared his belief in temple worship. But, he has not converted to Hindu religion.The question of entry of non-Hindus in temples can be discussed. At the same time, we should not mix it up with the popularity of a celibrity singer or a politician or any other well-known personality.Otherwise, it will be just like a commercial ad.
RE:temple purification is an offence and shall be punishable.
by Prasad Mukkamala on Jun 11, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
purifincation is never inhuman. Seems u dont know the difference bw humanity and inhuman.
Recently there was a news that a fatwa has been issued against army for helping in rennovation of muslim shrine. Do u think helping is inhuman?
Our worthy politicians remember Sree Narayana Guru only when it suits them. He had also expressed instructed his followers to desist from producing, selling and consuming intoxicating liquor, but the present day Abkari Contractors are mainly from his community.
Also The Guru had the courage to declare that the idol in the temple established by him was of "Ezhava Shiva" when some brahmins objected to him consecrating the same.
What was the necessity for Mr. Vayalar Ravi and his son to go to Guruvayur temple if he believed in the teaching of his Guru, that is one god for all?
And if the solution was to just obtain a certificate from the Arya Samaj Office at Kozhikode, why they could not have obtained a certificate and avoided all these hassels? Are they trying to fish in trouble waters?
RE:Sree Narayana Guru
by Power India on Jun 11, 2007 09:25 PM Permalink
Guruvayur temple is not the property of Brahmins. It is the property of all the Hindus and moreover all the keralites. Those people who believe in Krish should be allowed there as in the case of Sabarimala. It is high time to change the Brahmin rule in Guruvayur
