RE:I am Hindu
by MJ on Jun 06, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
If you are ashamed, then who is forcing you to be a Hindu? And who the F is asking you to post messages here?
no really, how much hav ethe missionaries paid you? Rs.10? 50? 100??
Or has some mullah promised you 72 virgins in heaven? You know it is true, so please die first.
RE:I am Hindu
by Harpreet Singh on Jun 06, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca#Non-Muslims_and_Mecca Hinduism is not the only religion that is non-tolerant. So stop cribbing. Each religion has its rules (some logical and some illogical). Can you complain that non-muslims are not allowed to do Hajj - no you accept it as a religious thing and move on. I am sure I can dig up equivalent rules with other religions (in addition to islam as well) So please move on.
That is Infinite (God), this is infinite Infinity came out of infinity. When you take out infinity from infinity, what is left behind is also infinity.
which means ...
Everything came out of God. What comes out of God is also God. What is left behind is also God In short, everything is God.
We don't have "the only begotten son of God" and "the last messenger from God" in our religion.
RE:I am Hindu
by Sonu Madhavan on Jun 06, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
jeya brain is needed to understand the vast of hindusim why dont u get converted into christ/mulim why wast you time
RE:I am Hindu
by Harish Iyer on Jun 06, 2007 12:35 PM Permalink
Are you really a Hindu. Why ought you be ashamed of seeing all the Gods and Goddress in Nudity and in various positions.
Get this in your thick skull, just as you eat food if you are hungry or drink water when you are thirsty, sex is an integral part of life and reproduction. There is nothing wrong in it. Dirt is in your mind. Clean it first.
RE:I am Hindu
by Rashmi on Jun 06, 2007 12:22 PM Permalink
Christians threw Mahatma Gandhi out of the train, bcoz he had black skin. Christians took black innocent people (like us) from Africa as slaves and sold them in Europian markets. Nelson Mandela was imprisoned and tortured by Christians, Martin Luther King was totured by Christians. Recently Shilpa Shetty was insulted by christians bcoz she is an asian.
In Iraq, Sunnis and Shias are killing each other for their different caste. In Afghanistan the same problem is there.
These type of problems are there in every religions. But I believe Hindus will definitely resolve the problems that they have due to social reason (not religious reason) and also they will resolve the problems peacfully as they believe in NONVIOLENCE.
"Basudeyva Kuttumbakkam" i.e. The Whole World Is One Family.
RE:I am Hindu
by venkat on Jun 06, 2007 12:22 PM Permalink
Hinduism is always open to interpretation and that is the inherent beauty of the religion. It does not enforce any laws on anyone. Even an atheist can find a solution for this ways in the scriptures of the Hindu Text. Regarding your 33 crores of God, that is also interpreation on how people want to worship almightly.
Just like a company which is known by his name and internally by CEO, thousands of employees, Hinduism functions in the similar way so as to make the people tolerant by worshipping different interpretations of the same almighty.
Essence of Hinduism is beauty and if you have come to a conclusion about it badly just by seeing images, you must convert to some other intolerant relgion which says "worship only like this and nothing else" and repent later by getting some hits from them.
RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by SHAHRUKH NIZAMI on Jun 06, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
OVERSTAYING IS AGAINST THE LAW.. THERE IS NOTING RELATED TO ISLAM.. GROW UP ANAND LYER.. HOW U CAN RELATE OVERSTAYING WITH RELIGION..
RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by SHAHRUKH NIZAMI on Jun 06, 2007 12:17 PM Permalink
Please find your answers. 1. Islam never teach Sunni and Shias to fight. Even brothers fight between them. 2. Islam never divide people in Shia, sunni, ahmadia, aga khan etc, etc. These divisions came when people fought among them selves like brothers fight between them. 3. Saudi arabia is a biggest zakat (Charity) distributer in the world. How you can say they treat muslims worst than slaves. 4. They marry their children to any of muslim from any nation. But there is no chance because the community in saudi arabia is very conservative. 5. Citizen ship is a matter of nations interest. Its not a matter of Islam. Dont attach it with religion. 6. Kafirs are nothing but Disbelievers. a. Looting is never thought by Islam. b. Raping is crime in islam and punisment of raping is very harsh (death sentense in islam). c. Killing of kafirs are acceptable only if they are against in the fight of holy war. 7. The treatment Islam give to women is respect. 8. Islam fights only for peace. If some one makes terrorism then its not the teaching of Islam.
RE:RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by Harish Iyer on Jun 06, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
Some of your arguments are correct but not all especially the whole of item No. 6. The Islamic faith does not teach it but is being taught by some perverted minds.
RE:RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by Harish Iyer on Jun 06, 2007 12:48 PM Permalink
Please report any Bangladeshis or Pakistanis overstaying in your area so the same law that you speak of can be applied here.
RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by Harish Iyer on Jun 06, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
Do you mean to say that there are no muslims overstaying in Saudi. Come on. Stop day dreaming.
RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by Anand Iyer on Jun 06, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
All those deported are pilgrims overstaying on pilgrims visas. All these are Indian muslims. None of them hindus. So Saudis dont want Indian muslims there. They consider u like cvdirt.(soory to say that is the cfact). Still u defend the Saudis???? My Saudis-right or wrong is it??????????Shahrukh????
RE:RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by SHAHRUKH NIZAMI on Jun 06, 2007 12:21 PM Permalink
Islam doesnt support Overstaying even for pilgrims. GOT IT MR. LYer. I am not supporting Saudi or any perticular religion. Just i am clearing your doubts
RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by S_Khan on Jun 06, 2007 12:14 PM Permalink
No one is defending Saudis. You Hindu guys when cremeted into fire and smoke, but we become part of Indian earth.
RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by venkat on Jun 06, 2007 12:25 PM Permalink
And you waste more lands by building tombs. We don't take even a inch of mother earth for overselves.
RE:RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by Harish Iyer on Jun 06, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
See it proves that we are superior to you. We leave everything here. We do not even become part of Indian or any other earth since we believe that we are travellers here and have to leave when the time comes. But you people get so attached to all earthly possessions that you want to be buried in it even after death. So sad.
RE:RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by S_Khan on Jun 06, 2007 12:22 PM Permalink
Are you not a coward and full of inferiority complex that you hide your identity. People like you get daydreams, not worth answering
RE:RE:This is for hindu-bashers
by SHAHRUKH NIZAMI on Jun 06, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
If I consider I am a god doest it proves that I am a god??? Never... like if any one considering thenselves as upper-caste then let them consider and let them go to hell!!!!!
I feel that anyone who has faith in Guruvayurappan should be permitted into the temple, even if he has been born into some other religion. Now the question is how to separate the faithful from the "tourists", who are there to see the temple, and anyone who is out to create trouble(the temple is suffocatingly crowded anyways, so we dont want any extra people :-) ) Anyone who by his own admission is a bhakta of Guruvayurappan should be permitted to enter. We cant have all people entering the temple signing declaration vowing their allegiance to him.
So how about this ... Anyone how has to enter the temple has to hold his hands above his head and cry out "GURUVAYURAPPAAAAAA" before entering the temple .. :-)
RE:Practical Solution
by Harish Iyer on Jun 06, 2007 12:41 PM Permalink
In that case why does that person want to enter the Guruvayurappan temple. A believer can as well have a photograph of Lord Guruvayurappa and pray to him at home. Why go to the temple at all.
RE:Practical Solution
by Ranjith Parakkal on Jun 06, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
Do you go to temples ?? If yes, why do you go to temples ?? You can pray before a photo at home. Right ??
Rituals and all are ok. But what is required, is devotion and love ... Bhakthi towards whichever god you believe in. Going to a temple may help increase that devotion. Why deny anyone that right?? What we dont want is people who come to just "see" the temple or sneer at the rituals and worship that happens inside.
RE:Practical Solution
by preethi menon on Jun 06, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
Yes. Why not, Instead of Self Declaration this or any other means WILL DO. Which is progressive and easier.
The whole idea is to ascertain that You (Non Hindu) do believe in Idol Worship.
Knowing fully well what will follow, Mr. avi has visited the temple, only to seek political milage. I definitly not visit a place where i am not welcome. If he a true hindu, as he claims he is, he should also know that visiting temples are not improtant to seek gods blessings. It is more improtant to live as per the teachings. What Ravi did is a sheer, secular, political stunt, to win over what? I don't know.
RE:temple
by Harish Iyer on Jun 06, 2007 12:53 PM Permalink
Well said Sriram. Vyalar Ravi's son is only trying to earn some brownie points with his political masters.
RE:religion -should show right path to humanity
by SHAHRUKH NIZAMI on Jun 06, 2007 12:01 PM Permalink
Please find your answers. 1. Islam never teach Sunni and Shias to fight. Even brothers fight between them. 2. Islam never divide people in Shia, sunni, ahmadia, aga khan etc, etc. These divisions came when people fought among them selves like brothers fight between them. 3. Saudi arabia is a biggest zakat (Charity) distributer in the world. How you can say they treat muslims worst than slaves. 4. They marry their children to any of muslim from any nation. But there is no chance because the community in saudi arabia is very conservative. 5. Citizen ship is a matter of nations interest. Its not a matter of Islam. Dont attach it with religion. 6. Kafirs are nothing but Disbelievers. a. Looting is never thought by Islam. b. Raping is crime in islam and punisment of raping is very harsh (death sentense in islam). c. Killing of kafirs are acceptable only if they are against in the fight of holy war. 7. The treatment Islam give to women is respect. 8. Islam fights only for peace. If some one makes terrorism then its not the teaching of Islam.
Actually politicians are the entire sin. Any temples must be washed and cleared after their visit. I think in every temple there must be a board --- "DOGS AND POLITICIANS ARE NOT ALLOWED!"
In 2000 when Mr.Ravi Krishna solemnised his wedding at Gurvayur Temple and after the ceremony then Head Priest had ordered a "PUNYAHAM" and it is well known to Mr.Ravi also. If he is a real devotee of Lord Krishna and Guruvayur Temple, he should follow the religious beliefs. He has to learn from Krishna's grate ever devotee "GANAGANDHARVAN" DR. K.J.YESUDAS. Trust is in mind not for public debate Mr.Ravi. If you think you are humilated Head Priest's act, why you are giving chances. It is not a must to perform the first feed or "Choroonu" at Guruvayur instead you can perform it at SHIVGIRI, known to be no cast, creed and religion. Mr.Ravi please do not mix politics and beliefs. Mr.Ravi please try to understand the advantages and disadvantages of intercast marriage. You got more advantages and these are a few disadvantages. You have the rights to critisize Head Priest of Guruvayur. There were prescribed rules and regulations governing the conduct of the temples and are still there, as devotee you should follow all these or avoid entry into such temples. You took and brought it a major issue in front of media. I appreciate you. Can you ever have such grate spirit in challenging Mrs.Sonia Gandhi, the sole and whole of Congress in her wrong dissicions. Can you dare Mr.Ravi. You can't, whatever you are now is because of her blessings. Even Lord Krishna cann't make you Prime Minister, but she can. If she decides you will be the next PM. So leave Head Priest and make your future.
After reading different coments of reader's here i came to one conclusion.
Some Xtian converts are saying temple rules should be changed, how is that possible to change? it is a faith question.
So any way kerala is full of converites, y not apoint a chruch father to conduct rituals in guruvayur temple??? good idean na. :) LOL By doing this we can make brahmin haters/pseudo secularists/xtians/muslims Happy.
