there are three solutions of this reservation problem
1.impose president rule in whole country atleast for 5 yrs.remember president should be honest,educated and true nationalist lik apj abdul kalam 2.devide india in 5 pieces 1.east 2.west 3.north 4.south 5.central 3.make narendra modi pm of india
you people belive or not these are only solutions of most problems in india.the thing is whichone do u prefer?
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by Omar Shariff on Jun 03, 2007 05:01 PM Permalink
We make modi PM and Osama Bin President!! ha ha ha.
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by mukul gupta on Jun 03, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
There is only one solution to these reservations. Give reservation to each community and caste as per their population and reserve 50% of such reservation for the poor of that particular community/caste. This will take away the right of politicians to play with the sentiments of the pepole for vote bank politics.
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by Loan Shark on Jun 03, 2007 10:25 PM Permalink
you said 2.devide india in 5 pieces 1.east 2.west 3.north 4.south 5.central 3.make narendra modi pm of india
once you divide india in 5 pieces, don't you think you'll need five PM?
narendra modi should be in jail for the gujarat genocide
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by san man on Jun 04, 2007 09:20 AM Permalink
Loan Shark should be in jail, for his blood libel.
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by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 03, 2007 10:43 PM Permalink
What he meant was 5 States. Not 5 NAtion-States.
Sardar Patel was for this. Had he lived a decade more, there would not have been so many states. Instead just 4-5 states. North, South, East, West amd probabaly North East.
Its a nationalist position which anti-Indians like you are unabl to understand.
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by Loan Shark on Jun 04, 2007 01:58 AM Permalink
Sardar patel was another Narendra Modi. I am glad that he wasn't the PM.
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by san man on Jun 04, 2007 09:20 AM Permalink
I'm glad you're not PM, shark. Sharks should be caught and skinned. They shouldn't be allowed to prowl and prey on the innocent.
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by lal jat on Jun 03, 2007 03:32 PM Permalink
MODI,THE KILLER,SHOULD BE HANGED INSTEAD OF MAKING PRESIDENT
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by Ramesh Anand on Jun 03, 2007 09:59 PM Permalink
Modi the killer saved Hindus.What is bad in that.When you people can burn alive the 60 pilgrims returning from Ayodhya what is the remedy? Have Hindus ever burnt Hajees returning from Mecca Madeena?
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by san man on Jun 04, 2007 08:38 AM Permalink
this "lal jat" should be hanged and not modi. thanks for the garbage "lal jat" I'll be sure to vote for Modi now. :)
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by Prasad on Jun 03, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
It reminds me a great sher by Ghalib: "humko maalum hai zannat ki haqeequt lekin dil ke khush rakhane ko ghalib yeh khayal acchha hai." No doubt, APJ is great person in Indian space and defence Technology but he has not proved anything great as a prez. he is also a rubber stamp, but better than others. He should have been proactive rather than giving lectures, it doesn't help in india. It is not gremany or russia or some other country where people get inspired by speach and start a revolution. I myself once was impressed by Rajiv Dikshit's speaches and become swadeshi for couple of years. gradually back to old stuff, I still belive Rajiv has better direction than any other leader. But... Most of us don't know him much as he doesn't appear on TV or internet or news paper also nobody wants to be so patriotic and dedicated to principles. Bigger the state harder it becomes to control by simple governace, you need to use force the to maintain law and order, i assume people know how it would be if they have experianced the National emergeny (MESA), BJP did nothing about curroption also proved as just another political party with all sh*t. The reservation is THE SH*TTIEST F**KING trick used by congress supported by all political parties ruining the countries present and future. Folks... don't depend on others if you want to do some thing for the country do what ever you can individually, whenever get an apportinity to screw these a**holes do it right there. Jai Hind
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by Chouhan Chouhan on Jun 03, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
Narenda modi as pm, have u gone crazy? dnt u see condition of gujrat, fake encounters, do u wana these fake encounters to be evrywhre in india?
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by Ramesh Anand on Jun 03, 2007 09:50 PM Permalink
Sohrabbudeen was a criminal,had killed or got killed many a police personnel.Deadly weapons rifles were found with him.If he has been killed even if in fake encounter, hell has been let loose by Seculars sitting in Parliament,donot allow parliament to run to discuss Sri Ram Setu being demolised by Secular government of Sonia Rani.When these people kill Fauji or military personnel or police personnel,no Hulla gulla or noise is made and no hell is let loose.No parliament is adjourned as no anguish is shown by these 'patriotic' MPs.They treat military personnel and police personnel as paid slaves,sons of other mothers,worthy of being killed by terrorists.But no terrorist should be killed by any one by taking extra initiative. So what if Sohrabuddin was killed.After all he had killed so many people.You know there was terrorism on the peak in Punjab and police personnel were helpless.Terrorists had even started killing relatives of policemen.But once policemen also started killing their brothers and sisters,all was quiet on terrorists' front.Terrorism vanished.Otherwise courts needed proofs and even lives of judges were in danger.See what the sister of Daud Ibrahim doing in India-Mumbai.She is terror in her area and doing all illigal things.How can you gather or collect proofs against her.Everyone knows she is doing all nonsense taking her strength from the mere name of Daud Ibrahim.If tomorrow she is killed by police all the Seculars will get togethers and cry like crows to bri
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by Greeneyed Guru on Jun 03, 2007 05:15 PM Permalink
America branded Modi a terrorist & refused him entry into the US. So, Mr Chouhan, should George W Bush the terrorist hunter, have Modi hunted & killed like a terrorist? Talk sense atleast now & then.
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by Ramesh P on Jun 03, 2007 08:39 PM Permalink
America branded many more as terrorists, including saddam, iran, pakistan, afghanistan etccc. So they are all terrorists and we should wipe them off as well. Yes Modi is the best option for the post of PM/President - he has already shown what he is - a clean selfless leader, who delivered on every front. Gujarat is a far better state today. And more importantly many traitors were kept in check.
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by Zuned Khanji on Jun 03, 2007 03:20 PM Permalink
Sanjay, how do you feel if someone declares you to be a citizen of Pakistan n came Gujarat to kill Modi and also killed you in fake encounter??? & only purpose behind this is to raise his so-called Hindu votebank...is it acceptable to you??
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by Ramesh P on Jun 03, 2007 08:36 PM Permalink
Good for India and Indians. Hindu votebank is pretty new compared to the muslim votebank and Hindu votebank will always be good for India. Modi is a nationalist who loves his country and state, he is not a traitor unlike muslims. Like congress if one accepts everything what the muslims do including terrorist kiliings, bomb blasts, drug trafficiking, fake currency, illegal bussinesses etccc, they are secular, if they take action against criminal muslims, suddenly they become communal. You ppl are the traitors who are not ashamed to see traitors in terrorists and criminals, but see them only as muslims.
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by san man on Jun 04, 2007 08:43 AM Permalink
Zuned, Muslims are the ones who've been doing the vote bank before anybody else. Don't do such things unless you want others to. Remember Akshardam murders were not done by the fearful, they were done by those wanting to instill fear. We will never bow to terrorism. I will most certainly vote for Modi, after seeing the slander generated by Muslims. I will carry on the fight, even if Modi doesn't. Don't behave like an extra-territorialist if you don't want to be called one.
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 03, 2007 05:00 PM Permalink
Make Modi PM? This guy was branded a terrorist and denied entry into the US !How can terrorists rule the country? or does RSS ideology allow even that ?
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by Loan Shark on Jun 03, 2007 10:25 PM Permalink
RSS is itself a terrorist organisation ... shiv sena and bajrang dal too
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by Loan Shark on Jun 04, 2007 01:52 AM Permalink
I am not a muslim, I am a Hindu. I go to temple regularly. Just because I look beyond BJP, I do not automatically become a muslim. If I speak the truth about BJP so people will know the reality, you try to brand me as a muslim. I am NOT a muslim. I am a secular, peace loving Hindu. Remember, just being born into a Hindu family and voting for BJP doesn't make you a Hindu, you must be a Hindu by karma - i.e. follow the path of righteousness.
It is the responsibility of us Hindus to save India from turning into a Taliban style hindu state.
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by san man on Jun 04, 2007 09:19 AM Permalink
You are not a Hindu, you are a traitor. You are a Loan Shark, just like your name. I am not a Hindu - I am an atheist, and I certainly feel that Muslim politicians are communal, and that too many Muslims wrongly support Islamic chauvinism rather than maintaining good relations with other communities. As an atheist, I see that all over the world, Muslims have problems with other ethnic groups. So all ethnic groups can't be wrong.
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by Loan Shark on Jun 04, 2007 01:56 AM Permalink
Narendra Modi supported genocide under his watch. That makes him a Human Rights violator. Late Pramod Mahajan along with Laptop Naidu questioned Modi's continuation, but the BJP high command had their eye on elections then and did nothing to fix this problem.
Modi should have been gone. How can you call yourself a hindu and ignore a genocide? Is that what hinduism means to you? If yes, you are NOT a hindu, but a blot on hinduism.
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by san man on Jun 04, 2007 08:46 AM Permalink
Loan Shark is the violator. Modi was and is a good man. I'll certainly follow Modi's good example, you can be sure of that. The more you slander Modi, the more we will stick by him. I'll be the next Modi. You'll never conquer us with your lies. I am an atheist, and that's all the more reason for me to support Modi over the fundamentalist regressive Muslim community and their global movement for lying and slandering. Every community around the world is harassed by them, including us atheists.
What is happening in Rajasthan today is going to spill over to the entire country tomorrow - should Indian politicians be allowed to impose their short sighted vote bank based politics on the country.
As if reservation ever solved anything. The need of the hour is honest and good governance and creating opportunities for growth. Having less controls and more avenues for employment.
Reservation is not going to make India grow. Growth oriented policies are.
Time we focused on growth and all inclusive development.
A situation of people fighting each other for reservation based on caste? it can happen only in India. Can any one tolerate the acts of a particular community's irrational behaviour of blocking roads and killing people demanding reservation. Its a good lesson for political parties also.
In 60 years since independence the cheap type of politicians have taken over filtering into every party.Bonelss,luxury and sleaze seeking and corrupt, and in many cases even criminals ,these guys think that they are masters of people and can fool them.Imposing such laws like NSA,TADA,POTA etc are superfluous as there is adequate provision in normal laws of India Cr.PC and IPC.We all should condemn this behaviour of administrators to quell by brutal force and by suspending constitutional rights of people, small agitations.It shows there incompetence. These were created in first place by government themselves.In fact it is time to publicly prosecute Vasundhara and her party members for giving false assurances to people to get votes and mass cheat them in elections. Rampant corruption, extracting money from businessmen and theft of public money in purchases and contracts,eating more than half of welfare aid,these politicians and corrupt bureaucrats are real cause of trouble and need to be put behind bars for sedation, mass public fraudm breach of trust and cheating.They hide behind security. These guys think they have repleaced white skinned british and have become Brown masters.Shamelessly they misuse public machinery,assets and are bleeding the nation.They have finished national character and have divided people for centuries to come in caste and community lines. It is time politicians and their tail wagging babus start behaving or get ready for serious consequences.
RE:Politicians should start behaving
by Loan Shark on Jun 04, 2007 02:27 AM Permalink
It is fashionable today to blame the polititians for everything that goes wrong. But before you do that ask yourself what you have done for your country.
RE:Politicians should start behaving
by Kamal on Jun 03, 2007 12:51 PM Permalink
Nice one Mr. Gupta. Politicians should accept the responsibilities and should be made accountable. You ended your write-up by saying that politicians should get ready for serious consequences.... Is violance a way or an alternative? Not at all. For controlling violance, there should be harder stick to be taken on hand. Dont you agree? Further, dont you think that there should be an uniform Civil Code for all citizens of India? Its 60 years since independence now. High time for bringing merits in and caste based approach out. All that we need to do is work towards that. It is not very easy to implement - I hope you agree. There should be a sort of Emergency Rule implemented for this purpose. Or alternatively, plans should be drafted stating that 20 years since now, the Uniform Civil Code will be introduced. As you rightly put it, no politicial party will dare to annount such statement(s). The only way is a good leader with a good vision should come and implement these things under Emergency Rule - at least for 5 years.
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by Harimoorthy K on Jun 03, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Prof R.K.Gupta, If we have these provisions in normal laws of india Cr PC why it was not implemented for several years.First you should talk like a common man not like the agent of the other poltical parties.Because of these agititation have you ever thought hoe the common public are suffered.Next time onwards if any poltical parties make any promise during election people should ask them the assurance the time frame in which they are going to implement othere wise a law should be brought that people should have the right to recall the elected representative and send a new person. If such type of laws are brought into force then only the polticans in the country will work truly for the public who are voted for them, Being a prof you shold try to educate the people to get their basic rights in a peaceful way not by indluging in voilance.Prof do this first and dont raise other non sense issues.
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by Surya Kiran on Jun 03, 2007 02:09 PM Permalink
How professor Gupta can educate people-? Who will listen him-? See yourselvles, even you are not ready to listen Mr. Moorthy and countering him pathetically.
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by raja moses on Jun 03, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
Prof Gupta, your message is really great. But I doubt you can make any difference to our hopeless motherland where every system seems to be too chaotic and the politicians are enjoying this and will continue to!
Such agitiations happen everywhere other than in WB. Why? Rajashtan is unaware that WB has shown the way forward. Indeed for India as a whole, West Bengal must be the model to emulate. Actually, the number one Indian state is not TN, Mah, or Gujarat. It is WB. Under the secular and tolerant rule of the CPM, Bengal has become a powerhouse in all sectors of the economy. Unlike Gujarat and Maharashtra, Bengal is peaceful, progressive and democratic. There are no riots and law and order is excellent. The Bengali people are solidly behind the CPM. They know the truth: without the CPM, there can be no Bengal. I shudder to think what would have happened to WB if there was no CPM. The state would have been at the same level as Guj or TN. The CPM has saved Bengal from that fate and is indeed the only party which can deliver. It is a reflection of the political maturity of the Bengali people that such Gujjar like agitations do not happen in Bengal. Because Bengal is no.1 in India in each and every scientific, technical, cultural, literary, economic and artistic field. India without Bengal is like America without California. Without Bengal, India is doomed. Without the CPM, Bengal is doomed. Hence, if you want a better India follow Bengal.
RE:Learn from West Bengal
by praveen thakur on Jun 03, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
sorry anil, WB is also sitting on the pire at nandigram and several other place.The organised crime first came out from WB in the form of nexalite.All the industries are leaving WB.All the corporate offices in WB are closing their office and shifting to Mah or Bangalore. Unemployment rising up.Corruption is extreme in Bengal.THe only thing which is available in WB is Bandh and Agitation.People say if you dont want to work and wanna only talk learn if from CPM ruled WB.
RE:Learn from West Bengal
by ABC XYZ on Jun 03, 2007 12:35 PM Permalink
Thakur Sab,
Aap kis zamaney ki baat kar rahey hain? Aisa hota tha. Ab nahain hain. Aapko pata haina ki Wipro aur IBM ney WB mein office khola hua hain. There are talks going on with Bene Sentosa of Indonesia to develop huge real estate and chemical hub, etc. Real estate prices are hitting the roof. What you said used to be true once upon a time under the rule of Senile Jyoti Basu, but things have taken a 365 degree turn once Buddhadeb became the CM. As far as fights in the religious or caste line, it is non-existent in Bengal unlike some of the states in India.
RE:Learn from West Bengal
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jun 03, 2007 04:06 PM Permalink
Dear bengal lovers
Still it is far behind progrssive states like Maharashtra/Gujrat/Tamilndau/Karnataka/AP etc in terms of Indusries/Job opportunities/education/sports etc. It is just marginally better than BIMARU states.
RE:Learn from West Bengal
by raja moses on Jun 03, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
Dear Anil, your message is far from truth. Nandigram is also part of WB. The goons in WB and neighboring states will welcome foreign nationals to settle down in India, which the Supreme Court term as aggression. India is such joke for its nationals and those surrounding it!
Hey Anil: good that you brought up this West Bengal Issue here.
Do you you know Mandal (OBC) reservation was NOT implemented iN West Bengal?
CPIM don't play caste politics in West Bengal. But CPIM plays caste politics in Rest of India.
Caste consciousness in West Bengal is less. ITS NOT BECAUSE OF CPIM, BUT BECAUSE OF SRI CHAITANYADEV, THE HINDU SOCIAL REFORMER WHO SAVED HINUDISM IN EASTERN INDIA.
RE:Learn from West Bengal
by Vivek Jaiswal on Jun 03, 2007 02:20 PM Permalink
Bengal shows Nandigram to the rest of the country.
It is a matter of shame that the Bengali politicians and policemen who set out to steal land from innocent villagers and perpetrated another Janiawallah Bagh in India are not only roaming Free but also happen to rule the state of Bengal. The less said about Bengal - the better it is. It is bunch of thugs and murderers who rule in the name of the people. Hardly the India that we would like to be proud of. Use your brains my good Mr. Anil, before you prout marxist philosophy.
RE:Learn from West Bengal
by sanjay harilal sharma on Jun 03, 2007 11:21 AM Permalink
Dear Anil, Enough of Bengal Gatha.Look at the facts.Every day u will find news fo strike in newspaper regarding bengal.It is the weaknees of this government to go with CPM/CPI becaus without them the govt will net run.Yes some of the good things are there in EB, like the awareness of people with resp to there rights...
RE:Learn from West Bengal
by bahmophet on Jun 03, 2007 02:10 PM Permalink
i am not a leftie. but i tell u that; left parties do not have dynasty politics. like karunanidhiji of soniaji etc. also they do not foment caste wars in bengal. may be they are stalinist, but then they are one. political awaremess is high in west bengal, thanx to cpm edcation of people. the left can change with the times, witness their emphasis on development now. also do treat this as a comedy, go and see, the state of bengal today. also it is the only state, where OBC DONT EXIST, INFACT RESERVATION IS ONLY FOR SC/ST IE 20% OR SO. REST ARE OPEN CATEGORY SEATS. A DAY WILL COME WHEN THE COMMUNISTS WILL RULE INDIA, LIKE NEPAL. ALTERNATIVE IS DISINTEGRATION.
RE:Whats wrong in asking for something that was promised ?
by Rahul Patel on Jun 03, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
Whats wrong is when the asking is killing people, destroying public property, blocking travel, and bringing the state down on its knees. That is called terrorism, not asking, my friend. Those involved should be jailed. This is democracy, but basic right does not include free-for-all militant warfare
RE:Whats wrong in asking for something that was promised ?
by Vishal Kumar on Jun 03, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
This is just a reaction of the people because they feel betrayed by the BJP. Why the hell did they promise something that they were not willing to do? BJP has a record of making false promises.
RE:Whats wrong in asking for something that was promised ?
by Sanjay on Jun 03, 2007 11:18 AM Permalink
I agree with Vishal. It happenes every where!! Just think how AIIMS doctors put the life of the poor people during their agitation!
RE:Whats wrong in asking for something that was promised ?
by Cool Dude on Jun 03, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
You cannot justify these action sby the Gujjars by citing AIIMS doctors. Next time you might justify bombings and executions by naming other incidents across the world. Actions like these can never be justified. I wonder if you would feel the same if you or your family were directly harmend by these protests.
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by Cool Dude on Jun 03, 2007 12:10 PM Permalink
There are other ways to protest. If everone in India started protesting like this for every promise made by a politician that was not kept, the entire country will be in flames. Show Ghandigiri not Dadagiri..
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by Sheru raj on Jun 03, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
Protest is every one right but it should only be protest , should not turn into such type of voilence. But god knows who is behind the mass killing . God give the sence to both (Meena Gujjar) for sac of India But the Fact is Meena Community is benefitted massively by this reservation system If we calculate employement % they are far ahead against any other cast not they employed but well employed A village near Gangapur city 7 IAS and IPS are working in different part of india and still they and their are benefitting with reservation
illiterate leaders and politicians will destroy everything. Keep the good work going. what we need is a powerful system and government with stringent rules. if that doesn't change, people will also not change. sadly, we will always remain a 3rd world country.