The terrorism in Punjab had blessings of Ronald Reagon the then US President,who supported it out of ignorance and to teach Indira Gandhi a lesson.Zia Ul Haq was a master craftsman in fomenting upheavel which later turned into massacre and killings of innocent persons in public places in India.The blame also lied with national and Punjab politicians.The major reason and root cause of unrest then and now even elsewhere in India is its bad ,unrealistic,irresponsible constitution which has enslaved people under the corrupt,illtrained,arrogant quarrelsome political leadership.Till a new people involving constitution with its inspiration from Indian civilisation is framed,we are in for much bigger man made calamities,disruption and disorder.The present lot of politicians are not only going to repeat and promote many more insurgencies but will also end up in dismemberment of country .The present constitution and polticians must go for the future of this country.
The terrorism in Punjab had blessings of Ronald Reagon the then US President,who supported it out of ignorance and to teach Indira Gandhi a lesson.Zia Ul Haq was a master craftsman in fomenting upheavel which later turned into massacre and killings of innocent persons in public places in India.The blame also lied with national and Punjab politicians.The major reason and root cause of unrest then and now even elsewhere in India is its bad ,unrealistic,irresponsible constitution which has enslaved people under the corrupt,illtrained,arrogant quarrelsome political leadership.Till a new people involving constitution with its inspiration from Indian civilisation is framed,we are in for much bigger man made calamities,disruption and disorder.The present lot of politicians are not only going to repeat and promote many more insurgencies but will also end up in dismemberment of country .The present constitution and polticians must go for the future of this country.
Mr. Raman may be right about ISI and CIA. But what is our RAW boys doing in the external and internal intelligence? Why could'nt they advise or stop Indra gandhi and other political leaders from supporting Brindranwale to create division against Akalis. We like to know from Mr.Raman the role of RAW in countering ISI works with Sikhs and later with Muslims. How come RAW or IB cannot get any intelligence about anti national forces working in Malabar, malapuram areas of kerala. Why could'nt they get any informations about the bomb blast in coimbatore. Are our intelligence agencies are not competitive enough to get informations of our local terrorists or they are concentrating more in north India and dont have any wings in south India.
If what is described in the book is taken at the face value, that means that the Sikhs were misled by the Pakis in league with the outsiders to create trouble in Punjab but I am surprised as to why the Akalis party could not understand the dirty tricks of all those troublemakers. I think the Akalis simply wanted to keep quiet and also to need some political space in Punjab to have one regional party against the Congress party. In India you need someone to keep blaming and that blame game on repititive basis becomes very much truth-like thing. There is no doubt that the sikhs participated in the freedom movement but I only blame Akalis who wanted to have a platform just to criticize Congress and make them a political party for themselves for the sake of power, not for serving the people. Unless the people get educated, such enemies keep growing on the pretex of opposition party.
Either some people here are too young and have learnt history only thru propaganda, or just plain bigots. I see them saying that terrorism only started after '84. Gimme a break. I still have very clear memories of news where Hindus were selectively killed in buses, villages etc. in Pinjab way before. 84. It was so frequent that in few years newspapers (we had Hindustan Times then) even stopped reporting it as front page news. I had Hindu classmates in Delhi who had fled Punjab. About 84 riots, I still remember all our upper middle class neighbourhood protecting sikh neighbours. 84 happened in part because of congress, and I do not see any hindu justifying it here. But I do not see any sikh whole heartedly condemning our PM's assasnation and supporting BlueStar. I disagree with Hindus who say sikhs are our brothers, no they are a millitant religion with no power or intention or accumen of spiritual inspection. And as fas as protectors of Hindus, phew, read history!
RE:hindus killes in punjab
by sarabjit singh on Jul 27, 2007 03:34 AM Permalink
r u in politics man?? u luk like a matured guy who had seen the 80s, then y u talkin rubbish. nd regarding indira gandhi, she got wat she deserved....
RE:hindus killes in punjab
by ssddssdd on Jul 27, 2007 05:31 AM Permalink
exactly my point! I do not see Hindus saying sikhs got what they deserved , but no sikh says killing Indira was wrong. Or even Air India blast was wrong. Or maybe there are not many like KPS Gill online. Read B Raman's article above "They showed how earnestly Indira Gandhi tried to avoid having to send the Army into the Golden Temple ". If there are criminals in Golden Temple, they have to be flushed out. Same holds for any other place of worship, be it a Hindu Temple.
RE:hindus killes in punjab
by rama on Jul 27, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
Yes,Indra gandhi ordered Blue star, but she is tye one who created, supported Brindranwale the monster which in the end went against Indra gandhi herself. There are lot of sikhs who supported blue star operation and operation Black thunder by Rajiv Gandhi. The vey aim of Khalsa is to protect hindu dharma from Muslim invaders. But they are confused by the systematic false propaganda of British, Muslims and later by our secularists.Thats precisely the reason for them to turn against Hindu religion and India.
RE:hindus killes in punjab
by sri on Jul 27, 2007 02:50 AM Permalink
About Hindus getting killed daily is no doubt true and is a terrible memory we all have. But dont blame all Sikhs for it. And dont excuse Indira Gandhi's role in the trouble. The Sikhs are a great people (Hindus have their bad elements too) and are our brothers. They are brave, have the biggest hearts one can have, and unlike we Hindus can laugh at themselves and make jokes about themselves. Please dont encourage such divisive thoughts anymore for it will hurt the very Hindus and India that you identify with. Let us look towards a glorious future instead and let the past be the past.
RE:hindus killes in punjab
by Harihara Subramanian on Jun 11, 2008 11:28 AM Permalink
Truth is different from FACTS. History is a record book of facts and incidents. But TRUTH lies burried under. Whatever RAMAN has released are some facts about what happened. Just some incidents. Truth is different and the underlying cause.
RE:hindus killes in punjab
by Ringo Star on Jul 27, 2007 02:39 AM Permalink
Do not forget that the sikhs too fought the muslims for the hindus right from the partition days!
Now Sikhs want Sahi dropped - The Telegraph, 18 hours 20 minutes ago I dont think you will need another quote to prove medias biassedness. Why the Guy Raman has let the secret out at this time, when terrorism has gone, Indra has gone and everything is normal. Whatcan be his motive one can guess. Wriying a book doesnt ned 30 years.
