life is so simple,most of our problem can be solved with just commonsenses, whay of ethics, character and leadership we are producing who are making the mockery of system and creating the hurdle for normalcy of people life and their superflated ego,,we need a system which may enlighten our villager, make their compulsary contributor to our national wealth,, in western world, most of poeple work for minor job, opposite in india, most of our soclld education hardly think of doing that,,, all economic world of capitalism is just trick of manipulation,,,if we play with wisedom we can root out corruption and poverty in india within 10 years,,human being have come from animal,. it is greed which motivates people to work and earn, and itis popularity which keep people to love, show empathy and do charity and social work for other,, if we install modern camera on raod, in office and make all cash transaction ban above 5000 rupees . all transaction in chque and strong and punishable code of conduct of responsibilty do&dnot,. 90% corruption will out ofsystem,, making national data bases of wrongdoing people and refusing them entries in job apply , renting home and standing in any election is enough for peoople to be honest, it is political vote bank policies which are totaly responsible for mess in india,,,
if we are develop, the fear of job, house andfuture should be minimum secured, otherwise no one will be consuming whtever they like and not making the cirle of consumtion , savin
I just want to ask 1 question to all praisers of Kalam that why he has not given green signal to Terrorist Afzal's hanging? only because he was muslim...right na?
RE:who praises for kalam?
by santanu sarkar on Jul 22, 2007 08:26 AM Permalink
if you go through the life and activities of Md. Afzal, you'll come to know he was wrongly framed and does not deserve hanging. Of course he was involved with terrorists for some time, however, he was not involved in the parliament attack...the truth never came out in the public..our legal system is totally futile and ineffective...
RE:who praises for kalam?
by anand kulkarni on Jul 22, 2007 07:44 AM Permalink
The baseline is simple.Any one who has done a serious crime enough to merit for a hanging should and must be hanged....Especially when it is against the country....
I see nothing wrong in hanging all those a**holes to death whether they are hindu/muslim who work against country...
Ideally one will never be able to prove that all muslims are bad because some of them are really good people !!
but i have seen from my experience in life...most of muslims in india support islamic terrorist and Zihad...activities.. and support pak...and other muslim counteries.. Which is bad...Example is in my home town.. they crack fire-crackers....if india looses.. any cricket match...and needless to say when pak wins they distribute sweets in market....
Muslims ....please wake up and be good before you wanish yourself from this mother earth....
RE:who praises for kalam?
by Raj on Jul 22, 2007 08:05 AM Permalink
Hi rutuja tiwaskar,
How do you say most of the muslims in India support terrorist? You are absolutely wrong, may be true when you take north Indian state. But If you look at Kerala and Tamilnadu, you will not see any difference between Hindi, Muslim or other religion. All are united. Why because highly cluttered people and no DISCREMINATION be religion or caste or region ....Thats make the difference...
You should not take slum area as example of whole India!
RE:who praises for kalam?
by bhagwati bahuguna on Jul 22, 2007 08:40 AM Permalink
Whether PP makes a good prez needs to be seen. Agreed she look like a very debilitated Grandma but actions speak louder than words. lets wait and see what shee does
RE:who praises for kalam?
by Surya Kanishka on Jul 22, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
Nothing but truth ! Please check the men surrounding Kalam, who are his advisors, what is their back ground. In India we have a notion of being carried away without considering the facts. Same with Prathiba Patil also. This how we have dynastic rules in every sphere of our lives.
Some times it appears as if we are totally blinded by propaganda machines. i.e. media.
RE:who praises for kalam?
by sudhir on Jul 22, 2007 07:36 AM Permalink
It is not President Kalam who directly takes the decision. When he gets the petition for clemency, he sends the same to the home ministry for evaluating the merit of the same.
Only after the reply from the home ministry he can give his decision which is the set protocol. And as we all know who controls the home ministry.
The congress spokesperson has even gone as far as to say that on an average the entire process of granting clemency or executing the person takes 7 years in India.
So rutuja It has nothing to do with the religion of President Kalam.
RE:who praises for kalam?
by KRISHNA SHARMA on Jul 22, 2007 07:28 AM Permalink
It is simple logic. Kalam is a man of GOD. He believes when he cannot give Life he has no right to take one. Set your foot right my friend.
RE:who praises for kalam?
by noel on Jul 22, 2007 08:08 AM Permalink
he didnt because he doesnt have a spine, It (not having a spine) may be connected to his being a muslim but lets not talk about that here, the point is that Mrs. Patil is going to be atleast a better president than that guy kalam, who is making such hue and cry now about his honesty and leaving the president house with two bags and all, what the f*u*ck is all this? we know Kalam that you cant steal much from the presidents house anyways....you are an ugly looking guy who badly needs a haircut....
she is more intelligent than Dr Kalam. ( By the way can any one give information on what subject Dr Kalam got his Ph.D. He has only honorary doctorate) Kalam is good man, but very naive. Indian government dared not to send him to any foreign country since he would talk anything. hE IS IS A GREAT MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER. NOTHING ELSE. He is talking about 2020 great India when the children do not have proper schools. He wanted to spend on arms when we do not have proper boards. K.R. Narayanan was a conscience keeper. Kalam was a joke in many ways, with his power point presentations and dream of a great India. Great India comes not through nuclear bombs but by giving fundamental rights to children and their educaiton.
WE ARE WORSE THAN BANGLADESH IN INFANT MORTALITY RATE. WE HAVE THE BIGGEST NUMBER OF POOR IN THE WORLD. WE HAVE THE BIGGEST NUMBER OF THE BLIND IN THE WORLD. ALL BECAUSE OF OUR NEGLIGENCE. KALAM COULD HAVE DONE SO MUCH. BUT HE SPENT ON SOME STUPID FUTURISTIC TALK ( WHICH MANY OF THE SCIENTISTS JUST LAUGHED IT OFF) BANGALORE iNST OF SCIENCE IS STILL REFUSING TO ADMIT HIM BECAUSE OF LACK OF QUALIFICATION.
CAN ANYONE DENY THIS> hE IS A GOOD MAN, THE HYPE IS MISPLACED.
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by vinnie n on Jul 22, 2007 07:36 AM Permalink
hey bi*tch, south is better than north many ways. they don't have to learn blo*ody sick hindi lan(not official national language), for what, to just communicate with you in south indian states. first learn south indian language when you moved to their state. talk to local in their language.i would prefer separate south indian country than current one. We would have been developed country in many way.
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by indian on Jul 22, 2007 07:39 AM Permalink
well guys what south and what north india is one. so stop all this bullshit about south and north
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by indian on Jul 22, 2007 07:12 AM Permalink
Oh so u stoop to this level. Sometimes it is northies or southies or it is hindus or muslims but dont hide the fact mr Rodger Bhinny or Camal's Gas. She looks pathetic and is a puppet nothing more. What all contributions have been made by her except licking Gandhis'.
You call this democracy it is worse then British rule. Any dumb person can become our president or PM. May be some yrs down the line Rahul or Priyanka might be the next PM. India is still slave and hasn't got freedom as our mentality is still same.
To hell with people like you who say anything about southies or northies. You so called coolies bring you foreign currency without which your country was always begging. Now it is standing on its feet.
What do you do -- putting up with your dad's business or not paying taxes? Software industry pays all taxes and brings foreign curreny and is improving the image that was created by taxi wallahs and what not. You know who are the most taxi wallahs outside India or do you want me to tell you
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by Confused on Jul 22, 2007 07:21 AM Permalink
b e ne c h o d you are not indian you are begger southie from srilanka....hheheheheheeeeeeeeeeeee
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by Indian Guy on Jul 22, 2007 07:30 AM Permalink
well dear all indians are brothers and sister. so your b hen is my sister dear.
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by indian on Jul 22, 2007 07:34 AM Permalink
saarey hindustani bhai behen hotey hain so merey pyarey bhai aapki woh hamari s ister hui. ab aap samajh lo ki is type ki bhasa ka prayog mat karo bacchey
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by hari rao on Jul 22, 2007 07:19 AM Permalink
Hmmm
All the northern indian states are only a liabilitity. The states that are performing the best economically are kerala, TamilNadu, karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and maharashtra. All other places in northern india are very poor and backward. All northies are coming to south for jobs. They are begging for jobs here. Many of them become coolies and rickshaw drivers.
My suggestion is separate the above states mentioned from the rest of the country into North India and South India. Then we will be able to watch North India collapse just like North Korea has been outrun by South Korea. Issue temporary work visas to educated northies who want to come, study or work in south since they have nothing but garbage there in the north.
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by hari rao on Jul 22, 2007 11:27 AM Permalink
Long live south india. Let us unite and separate ourselves from the evil north indians. South indians wake up before the north indians steal alll our wealth and resources like the mughals and britishers did. Let us form our own country and be peaceful. Let these stupid, illeterate and backward northindians fight amongst themselves!
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by indian on Jul 22, 2007 06:55 AM Permalink
now it is true we can sned her in a top level delegation to UN and she wont have to beg for alms for India as the world would see her and donate as she looks pathetic. Haha what a joke. Dont make us all laugh by comparing her to APJ.
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by Bhoomipalagan on Jul 22, 2007 07:01 AM Permalink
vajpayee looks like a greater joke than pratibha. Atleast pratibha can walk straight without anybody's help!!!!
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by vivek jauhari on Jul 22, 2007 09:07 AM Permalink
Budy when u will be old then U will feel pain. U cant see person capability with their walk. And comparing Vajpaee with parathibha patil shows your mind standard.
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by Surya Kanishka on Jul 22, 2007 09:39 AM Permalink
Vajpayee cannot walk, forget walking straight. 18 hours of the day he sleeps what else you can expect from a man on his death bed. But the greed and lust for power is still keeping him alive.
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by Bhaumik on Jul 22, 2007 10:41 AM Permalink
Cool Dude, you are wrong. Answer the question asked by camalgrace.
"By the way can any one give information on what subject Dr Kalam got his Ph.D.?"
And Camalgrace gave a correct analysis of Kalam. A good man, naive. That's what he is.
RE:RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by Bhaumik on Jul 22, 2007 10:42 AM Permalink
Cool Dude, you are wrong. Answer the question asked by camalgrace.
"By the way can any one give information on what subject Dr Kalam got his Ph.D.?"
And Camalgrace gave a correct analysis of Kalam. A good man, but naive. That's precisely what he is.
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by sudhir on Jul 22, 2007 07:53 AM Permalink
"CAN ANYONE DENY THIS> hE IS A GOOD MAN, THE HYPE IS MISPLACED."
No Sir, You have been misled. Let me tell you what he has done.
What Kalam has donefor the country is far superior than what even our madam president can think of in her distant dreams.
Remember he was a scientist who gave his entire life for the country. He was team lead of the scientists who conducted the Pokhran test.
He has NOT started a sugar factory and defaulted a loan amounting to 17 crores.
He has NOT started a bank to cheat poor people in order to fill the pockets of his brothers or sisters or niece or nephews.
He has NOT shielded any murderer.
He is NOT a boot-licker of Madam Antonia Maino alias Sonia.
So if you people think that President Kalam lack of experience in Cheating corruption or nepotism are his drawbacks then fine.
I have personally heard him speaking. As you said he is a great motivational speaker not as dumb as next madam president is. Hope she sticks to the speech written by he PR managers and does not try to use her non-existent brains.
President's post was merely a ceremonial post but Kalam was able to raise above all this.
I am very skeptical about the tenure of our next madam president. But I wish that she will prove me wrong because that is what India requires in spite of historical background
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 22, 2007 08:39 AM Permalink
Your long passage about Kalam is not about what he has done, but what he is not.
Being part of the Pokhran team, you must understand, Dr Kalam was the scientific advisor to the Govt.
He was not a nuclear scientist. He was part of DRDO team on integrated missile system.
So Pokhran Nuclear Test and Missile Programme are not same.
As for academic is concerned, he was declined Professorship at IIS for iadequacy in the academic credentials.
Moreover, Presidential Post is highest possible post for all Political worker to aspire. For example Shri Shekhawat who dedicated his whole life to Politics, he surely should aspire for Presidential Post. When we offer the Presidentship of the country to anybodyelse on a platter, then we deny the highest possible aspiration level to the political worker.
Coming back to Dr Kalam's contribution to the Presidentship, I would prefer if you can answer pointwise "what Dr Kalam did" and "not what Dr Kalam was".
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by Shridhar Venkat Iyer on Jul 22, 2007 07:11 AM Permalink
You are trying to put all the responsibility on Dr.Kalam, whereas these are the responsibilities of the Congress Govt at the Centre headed by PM with the strings at the hands of Sonia.
Have you read the public opnion polls which favoured another term for Mr.Kalam? The stained Prathiba can not come anywhere nearer to Dr.Kalam in any criteria. All the blames that you put on Dr.Kalam, are in fact applicable for the Central Govt.
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by kanakasabapthy kandan on Jul 22, 2007 08:05 AM Permalink
WHAT EVER YOU THINGS YOU HAVE SAID IS WRONG, IT IS NOT GOOD TO COMMENT ABOUT KALAM WITHOUT KNOWING DETAILS. ANY ONE FOR THAT MATTERS SITTING IN THAT POSITION REALLY CAN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING CONTROLLED BY OUR POLITICIANS WHO WORKS NOT FOR SOCIAL CAUSE BUT FOR PERSONAL BENEFITS.
RE:she will be better than Dr Abdul Kalam
by on Jul 22, 2007 07:39 AM Permalink
i dont know that intelligence can be measured through PH.D.. I am not intelligent then :(
"Indian government dared not to send him to any foreign country since he would talk anything."
Beeeeep.. are you working in indian secret service? We dont know that he is house arrested by not sending to any country.(By the way why he was not send to any country)
He talked about children going to school which will result in great india... (If i am wrong correct me).
he wanted to spend on arms?(Man!!! i dont know that he owned AK47 always carries pridvi missile with him.. I think He owned it right!!!!)
He is joke in many ways!!!!!!!!!!! wow... you took everything as joke on what ever he said? his speaches which inspire young scientists and children and me(even though he is not intelligent). How can you see a joke in him? powerpoint presentation... umm he made mistake in this matter.. he should have given hard copies when ever he is giving presentation about posibilities of india becoming The great india by 2020.
"Great india comes not through neclear bombs.." I agree with you." But by giving fundamental right to children" can you elaborate on this?
I really dont know much about BANGLADESH.. We "have biggest number of blind in the world!" oh have you donated your eyes(dont worry it will be used only after your dead)!!!
"He spent on STUPid futuristic talks"!!! um.. ya.. I think we should teach him how a talk should be.
RE:We Condemn the action - Unfortunate for country
by on Jul 22, 2007 07:13 AM Permalink
God has punished gandhi family? how? by making sonia gandhi the uncrowned queen of india !lol
I cannot imagine or digest that the new president is sitting in the same chair where Personalities like APJ Abdul Kalam, Radha Krishnan sat. What ever she is our President for us for another 5 years. I can guarentee that she wont win or she cannot bag not even 30% of votes if she was elected by people. But this is our system. Now her big word is "Yes Maam" always... Sare jahan se acha....
RE:Such things happen
by Confused on Jul 22, 2007 06:57 AM Permalink
.....(sarejahan se accha)...hindustan hamara.. yela dal dal par sone (soniya) ki chidia kare basera... yeh bharat desh hamara......hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
t n seshen, narayan murthy , apte,kher should start a movement of indian consciousness,otherwise ,we can not expect from our soclled bunch of joker,, mayabati need primeminister ship,, for being the dalit,,minority need job without any qaulifiction,,minister need commision for every deal ,business needs tex exemption 100%
wht is future of this country of media made harryporter superpower
RE:india is totaly at mess on every front
by Nelliah Hariharan on Jul 22, 2007 07:43 AM Permalink
Hello Mr/Ms Nameless!
Kindly refrain from posting communal messages in a forum that is discussing the outcome of the presidential election. What do you mean by "all brahmins need all the top posts just because they made this evil caste system?" The brahmins have got what they deserved in terms of benefits purely by their merit! Obviously, you don't like merit as you must be either a BC/OBC/SC. And do you think that non-brahmins are not caste-conscious among themselves?? Actually, there is a very vast hierarchy of various castes WITHIN non-brahmins, ok? When you have so much of dirt on your back, why point fingers at brahmins alone?
all indian politician are bunch of joker who are ruling the countries just out of greed and love for status and power,, instead of working for 2020 vision , they are taking the nation to downwards, messing up with corruption , nepotism, and communalism,,30% of peoople in city lives barest essential in slums, villeges are still the place of darkness, without any life saving facilities,, our leader have not vision to improve it in near future,, they are happy pulling the legs of each other,, india need efficient system of accountibilty and transferency,, strong election law of compulsory voting and strong party menifesto guidelines,, if they are implemented on time , on power on earth can save us from mess which have creatd for many years,, thanks to indian intellectual and citizens who have beening sleeping for years,
RE:shame on indian politician who are getting post becuase of chamchagiri instead of intellect
by on Jul 22, 2007 07:18 AM Permalink
indian intellectuals and citizens are wide awake . that is why they kicked out the communal forces from indian politics. it is now the govt of the common man.
