Pakistan is losing the leadership, which i can analyse from this whole episode of Lal Masjid. the way pakistan dictator goverement is working and the example which this episode showed that this government is not seeing his country as a progressive country but as a puppetry country. the demand from the people of pakistan are now to test (sorry i say) the civilian goverement because they thought that civilian goverement can do something better for the country. i think this is the dream of people of pakistan.
i was attending a discussion where Asmat Jehangir was presenting her thoughts and experiences of her country. she want that we pray and mobilise our goverenment to work or to think for their neighbors. i think which is imporatant but again vested interset of international relation come here to play there role, which are very important to check by the nations...........
Pakistan Afganistan Border will see heavy bloody fights very soon between US forces and Al-kaida. US forces are going to take control of Baluchistan to gain access to indian ocean without need to enter Pakistani main land. Iran will be directly facing US forces coming through sea. thats why 3 US airforce fighter carrier present. Musharraf Knows it. thats why Lal Masjid episode.
do we care? no. should we care? no. so, why would the indian govt not stop importing pakis by bus loads and train loads? 9/11 terror stricken indians have a deep, deep, deep need to know.
RE:Why muslims do not change
by door drishti on Jul 18, 2007 01:58 PM Permalink
haha ...nice story ...heard earlier also ...but fits very well ....thanks
RE:Why muslims do not change
by puneet jain on Jul 18, 2007 02:36 PM Permalink
The story being told is about monkey's lets donot hurt anybody's Religios sentiments.The actual thing what Mohammad wanted to tell was that lets love the almighty God Who has given us everything in life.But some of the muslims take it with narrow mindedness.
RE:Why muslims do not change
by Aadi Manav on Jul 18, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
I think you were among one of theose monkeys and put into the cage....Nothing speaks well like the self experience.
RE:RE:Why muslims do not change
by Nandagopal KCS on Jul 18, 2007 08:10 PM Permalink
you seem to be a product of Madrasa. Cant bear the reality about islam.
The political situation of pakistan is complicated. Mushrraf has promised democrasy, most likely it will be an arrangement with Benezir or any other one by which Benezir may become prime minister and he can continue to be the president or appoint a political puppet at that post.
RE:complicated
by Manjula A on Jul 19, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
traditionally, pakistani dictators are killed by their american masters after their expiry dates. why do you think this one will be different?
Musharaf and Manmohan was a Sarpanch in two neighbor village. Manmohan was constantly had problem of rowdy street dogs who often bites villagers. But, whenever Manmohan decide to take action against them, Musharaf call him up immediately and warm him that if he make any action against these dogs, dogs would not spare him. In Manmohans village dogs are become out of control. They are making continuous nuisance to villager. But, everytime Musharaf fear about What will happen to Manmohan if he take action against Dog?. Manmohan doing nothing staying as Sarpach of that village.
Now, suddenly news comes that dogs gone on rampage in Musharaf village. But, without any second thought Musaraf takes the gun and shot down each dog in brutal manner.
Manmohan immediately rang to Mussaraf that he should leave the village immediately because remaining dog won't spare you.
Then mussaraf replied : MR. MANMOHAN, DOGS ARE DOGS FOR ME. I AM NOT GETTING votes FROM THESE DOGS TO STAY IN POWER
This resemble the incident took place in Pakistan Masjit, where brave Mussaraf really kill the terrorist without any second thought. Now it's upto you Indians that you want to be bitten by Dog or you want leader like Mussaraf (Or say leader like Mr. Modi)
While the action by Pak Govt in Lal Masjid case is widely acclaimed by the world media in general and Pak media in particular, I cannot help remembering the Hazratbal episode. The govt acted with its hands tied and there was oppostion from many quarters including the media due to its pseudo securalist policy. The Pak govt acted tough, the indian govt. was not firm in its actions, fearing the opposition from the so-called intellectuals and human rights activists. I'm now surprised, why karats, yechuris, mulayams, tseestas, arundathi roys and n.rams are silent.
I was traveling a few months back, August 15, 2006 to be precise and the Flight reached Bangalore at 3 AM, due to terror scare reported at Heathrow Airport. The incidence of liquid bomb scare had thrown airlines into a tizzy. The tight security in India had led to delays and upon landing in Bangalore, I was shocked to see the Parking lot had many private taxi drivers with "Osama-brand beards, long Kurta, short pyjama and polished black shoes without socks " attire. I was wondering if I had touched Bangalore or the plane had been diverted to an Afghan city!
At any time of the day, MG Road, Bangalore has more %u2018bearded young men at times with shaven moustache%u2019 and %u2018top to toe Burqa clad women%u2019 than perhaps Karachi. Even in Karachi, where in the terrorists give Fatwas of dress code; such fashion parades of %u2018men and women in medieval-age attire%u2019 aren%u2019t so popular. Sadly, such attire is lately seen in most modern IT companies. Will this scare foreigner investor away from India? Lead to job losses and as Indian Companies don%u2019t do rigorous background checks, as yet. The subject is too touchy, though a blind eye to this will touch thousands of innocent lives in deadly manner, if ignored.
This shows these fellows are ready fodder for Talibanised culture and aren't embarrassed to move around with 6-century look and outlook in Silicon Valley of India. Is Bangalore going to be the breeding ground for feeding the terror network and
RE:Honest Citizen irrespective of religion, caste or creed- WAKE UP
by mashah on Jul 19, 2007 07:37 PM Permalink
Hi Mr.Prithvi, You have a freedom of expression thats why you are expressing your concern.In the same manner muslims have thier freedomof expressions ,its thier decision to decide whether they want to have a beard,full vail or not ,if they are following thier prophet by covering themselvees ,you should not have any problem .You are just scared of the thougt that some of them might be terrorist .In lala noe of the people inside killed outside people anybody before the operation.You tell me did you go inside the mosque & saw the Taliban or arms ,its a made up game sir by the government to show America that we had militants & killed them .I invite you read quran & tell us where is our religion wrong ,go & ask the scholars & you'll know what Islam is . Why should we be ashamed of our religion ,why should'n we cover our selves with vails. Also compare other religion with Islam ,the disrespect of women ,i.e;the clothing that they wear in movies where is it taking you .coruption is increasing not decreasing . I do dua for all muslims & nonmuslims ,may Allah give them the wisdom & vision to differentiate right from wrong. Ameen
RE:Honest Citizen irrespective of religion, caste or creed- WAKE UP
by RamRam on Jul 21, 2007 03:55 AM Permalink
There is no need to read ur book as people who have already read that book are giving live demos by blowing themselves and others.
RE:Honest Citizen irrespective of religion, caste or creed- WAKE UP
by Rehan on Jul 18, 2007 02:52 PM Permalink
If once could share his wife with these so called business prospects, he will get humungous business .... What say Mr. PRITHVI????
Another alternative, Become Eisntein, it doesnt matter even if you are sibling of Hitler they will lick your ass....
RE:Honest Citizen irrespective of religion, caste or creed- WAKE UP
by saqqi on Jul 18, 2007 09:52 AM Permalink
Mr. Prithavi
what us see as 6 century old look is our culture. i can understand ur afraid of gun but how can u afraid of cloth also. and if u think this 6 centuty look in indian Silicon valley is not good then i think u should advice ur mother also to start wearing tank top and short skirt. bcoz i m sure u r mother must be wearing sari. and sari is more then 6 century old. will u advice her today??? please let me know..
RE:Honest Citizen irrespective of religion, caste or creed- WAKE UP
by deshbhakth on Jul 18, 2007 10:35 AM Permalink
Nothing personal against bearded people mohamed, he was just a little concerned about its implications, it may be his point of view ..You need not mention what to wear and what not to wear..
RE:Honest Citizen irrespective of religion, caste or creed- WAKE UP
by Santa Singh on Jul 18, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
Dear Mohammed, I'm totally agreed with you.Why the hell should we loose our identity ? People of Sillicon Valley are just a little fair human beings with a huge economy.That do not make Gods.I feel these Non Reliable Indians(NRI) have lost their respect for their culture.I will not be surprised if they ask to make Humaanji stand like Jesus or ask all Indian Pandits and Maulavis to wear long white dress like an American Prist to give a Sillicon Valley look.Just by wearing a traditional dress a person dosen't become a terrorist.Nobody has the right to change anybody's preference.Dear Prithvi stop doing western chamchagiri.Just because of people like you we don't get respect from the west.
RE:Honest Citizen irrespective of religion, caste or creed- WAKE UP
by Manjula A on Jul 19, 2007 04:36 PM Permalink
I agree with the rest of what you say but the Indian Muslims have already lost their identity and culture. They are people who had the rich Indian culture till conversion. They lost all that with conversion. The only identity which they now have is that of MUSLIM, they have lost their languages, their traditional dresses, their festivals and everything that was theirs and have gone into the uniform arabicness of everything. They all speak urdu (no matter what their mother tongue is, whether kannada or gujrati), wear burqa (whether they had been wearing colourful saree or salwar kameez orother traditional dresses earlier), they have all forgotten all their folk dances whether garba or bihu or kolattam and only sing allah's praise. Now the BJP is trying to do that to the Hindus also. It wants all hindus to behave like UP brahmins, speaking sanskritised hindi, wearing the ulta saree, celebrating karva chauth, eating roti sabzi and forgetting their own traditions and cultures. God Save the Identity of the richly varied Indians.
Pakistan stands on the threshold of a major crisis today. While George Bush may applaud his crony Musharraf, fundamentalists in Pakistan will heighten their attacks on the establishment.
Pakistan is a peculiar case. It is also a lesson for all. No nation can be created on false premises. Pakistan was created for the Muslims of undivided India. What resulted was the usurping of power by the influential classes, reducing refugees to the status of second-class citizens. Since there was no democratic foundation of the new country, it never had democracy going. Whenever the military would allow democracy to return, the usurpers would prove themselves unworthy of governing the country. For example, after the end of the Zia regime, Benazir swept the polls to gain power. But she and her husband plundered the country.
Today Pakistan is in a precarious situation. How can a country survive after taking a U-turn? Musharraf, in a bid to please the US, turned anti-Taliban and anti-Al-Qaeda, almost overnight. The militants are bound to extract their pound of flesh, albeit with the mandatury drops of blood!
RE:Lal Masjid operation
by Aadi Manav on Jul 18, 2007 02:46 PM Permalink
The Hindu zealots in Our Country propogatign the 'Hindu-Rashtra' shouild take the heed from this. Especially RSS-VHP & the monkeys of Bajarang Dal
RE:Lal Masjid operation
by Pavan on Jul 19, 2007 05:11 AM Permalink
AadI Manav,
Islam is not native to India, it is religion that was brought by the plundering moghuls from middleeast, we never wanted your religion, infact we dont want you around in India, this said, india shamelessly has 160million muslims. 99 % of the communities population is in poverty, and if there were a war between India and pakistan, they will all embrace pakistan with wide open arms. All over the world, not a single nation is spared by the communities peaceful religion. Compared to brutal slaying commited by the mughal invaders (millions perished), the VHP/Bajrag dal will be put to shame. Think twice .....
