How can such a disgraceful thing happen? Army men entering a holy masjid and killing the beloved Mohammedan brothers....! Bapuji gave his life to serve the noble cause of Islam. I'm happy that this act of desolating a holy Muhammedan masjid didn't happen in India. It will not happen as we Indians are the real inheritors of our beloved Bapuji's legacy.We practice Gandhigiri. If at all such a thing had happened in Jama Masjid we would have sent beef biriyani to the noble persons who were holding few people as hostages. But in Pakistan....oh my God.What is this? They could have allowed the honourable persons who were holding few people as hostages to move to India and continue their noble mission. Where are the folks of the human rights group? What are Teesta Setalvad, Shaban Azmi, Girish Karnad, Mulayam Singh, Laloo Yadav, the eminent historians of ICHR etc. doing ? Cant they raise a finger of protest? Bapuji will be truly in tears to see the plight of innocent and noble persons who held few people as hostages.
I'm truly confident that such an atrocious thing of killing noble Mohammedan brothers in a Masjid will not happen in the Socialist Secular Republic of India that is Bharat. Bapuji ki jai!
RE:Bapuji will be in tears.....-:(
by kartik on Jul 12, 2007 11:36 AM Permalink
you have missed out javed akthar the great, then the mahesh bhatt. I am also frustrated a lot like you!!!
Cheeni people have at last forced Pakis to weed out the terror seeds sowing in their backyard which was growing menacingly dangerous not only to china, india, us but to the whole world.
How can such a disgraceful thing happen? Army men entering a holy masjid and killing the beloved Mohammedan brothers....! Bapuji gave his life to serve the noble cause of Islam. I'm happy that this act of desolating a holy Muhammedan masjid didn't happen in India. It will not happen as we Indians are the real inheritors of our beloved Bapuji's legacy.We practice Gandhigiri. If at all such a thing had happened in Jama Masjid we would have sent beef biriyani to the noble persons who were holding few people as hostages. But in Pakistan....oh my God.What is this? They could have allowed the honourable persons who were holding few people as hostages to move to India and continue their noble mission. Where are the folks of the human rights group? What are Teesta Setalvad, Shaban Azmi, Girish Karnad, Mulayam Singh, Laloo Yadav, the eminent historians of ICHR etc. doing ? Cant they raise a finger of protest? Bapuji will be truly in tears to see the plight of innocent and noble persons who held few people as hostages.
I'm truly confident that such an atrocious thing of killing noble Mohammedan brothers in a Masjid will not happen in the Socialist Secular Republic of India that is Bharat. Bapuji ki jai!
RE:Bapuji will be in tears.....-:(
by prakash kumar on Jul 12, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
Very well written man !!...Jai Bapu ji ki...Bapu ji ne India ki dono taraf se mari ....
Pakistan bhi banene diya or india ko bhi secular banake chhod gaye ..bapu ji ki jai :-)
RE:Bapuji will be in tears.....-:(
by Ya Mustafa on Jul 12, 2007 09:52 AM Permalink
Teesa setalvad,shabana azmi,girish karnad,mulayam,laloo did not raise their fingers in protest , just like advani, vajpayee,uma bharathi,sushma swaraj did not raise their fingers in protest when Modi was killing innocent muslim women and children left and right in gujarat!
RE:Bapuji will be in tears.....-:(
by Libran on Jul 12, 2007 10:52 AM Permalink
What can I expect? You are shielding Godhrans? Remember when you prick and hurt an elephant it could get mad and crush who pricked. It does not mean elephant is bad. It is reacting. It is the pricksters who are bad who have to pay. But unfortunately, elephant also got hurt while crushing, but no one cares. Don't forget Even in Gujrath, a huge percentage of people killed were Hindus. Teesta and Shbhana have no tears for them
RE:Bapuji will be in tears.....-:(
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jul 12, 2007 12:11 PM Permalink
Everybody has a Justification 1) You potray Post Godhra riots is for a Nobel Cause. 2) Same Justification is given by Extremists against the West... So what is the difference between you and a Terrorist ??
RE:Bapuji will be in tears.....-:(
by prakash kumar on Jul 12, 2007 10:52 AM Permalink
Remember when Hindu and Sikh Refugges from pakistan in 1947 came to Delhi they occupied some mosques because they did not have place to stay....at this point our beloved Bapuji went on hunger strike....as he could not tolerate poor mohemedan brothers not being able to use mosques in delhi
RE:Bapuji will be in tears.....-:(
by kartik on Jul 12, 2007 11:40 AM Permalink
just as the current PM could not sleep watching the mothers of jihadis in pain.
China's role in setting up Gwadar (Arabian Sea port in Pakistan) as a deepwater cargo port and naval base is significant. China intends to transport its oil from Gwadar to Karakoram Corridor (PoK) thereby linking China to Arabian Sea. The Bugti tribes put an obstacle when they killed two Chinese engineers in 2004. Based off China's direction Gen.Musharaff eliminated the Bugti leadership using helicopter gunships. When Chinese nationals were kidnapped in Islamabad by Lal Masjid activists for running brothels, China pressured Gen. Musharaff again. Actions were swift. Lal Masjid leadership was eliminated. As if on cue two Chinese engineers were killed in NWFP this week.
In return China takes care of Pakistan's interests. How? India and China are talking to each other on the border issue for 26 years since 1981. China has little or no inclination to settle its border dispute with India. If it does, it puts pressure on Pakistan -- a "third party whose interests China cannot disregard" (as a Chinese official admitted at a "track 2" dialogue in Beijing). As such the entire 4,000-km with India is in dispute. The LeT was banned as a terrorist organization by the UN. LeT was regrouped as Jamaat ud Dawa in Pakistan. The US moved to ban it again. China promptly threatened a veto in the UN and stalled it. Sooner or later the full force of Islamic terrorism will be felt in China's Xinkiang bordering Central Asia. Pakistan can not hold the lid for long.
RE:And China forces Musharaff NOT to act too
by Mathews CI on Jul 12, 2007 10:00 AM Permalink
Hello Srikant, That was an appropriate summing up of the prevailing scenario in this part of the subcontinent.The stakes are rather high in this region for all the players.Given the propensity to mutually mistrust, and sometimes rightly so,there doesnt seem to be light at the end of this tunnel, at least not in the near future.History also plays a major role in this distrusting matrix.However, Economics combined with a globally looking out youth, could prove to be a restraining factor in times to come. 2. Time and again it has been proven that emotionally charged moments in the diaspora have resulted in undoing years of diplomatic negotiations.That has always proven to be the bane of all constructive parlays in this region . China, with its single party rule has the decisive edge over pakistan and india when it comes to taking radical and pragmatic decisions.With internal dynamics being what they are in pak and india , the leadership ( whichever kind)inevitably feels constrained to take decisions which could resolve imbroglios we face . Yes, China too will face the islamic juggernaut sooner or later , but unlike the indecisive polity in india and pakistan , iam sure they do have a blueprint in place to tackle the issue when it rears its head enough to trouble the leadership. 3.This said ,radicalisation of any religion has always manifested in shaking up the world order throughout history.Its a process of evolution , it will happen.How to reduce the accompanying vagaries i
RE:I missed this session with Shri B Raman
by Closo on Jul 12, 2007 07:15 AM Permalink
Bhaskar, I am sorry about that. A true India lover and big fearless protester like you missed it.
RE:I missed this session with Shri B Raman
by Ya Mustafa on Jul 12, 2007 09:58 AM Permalink
Bhaskar using another name closo and praising himself as a true india lover and a fearless protester. If this hate lover is fearless why does he hide behind a computer to spread his hate than a public platform where he will be beaten and kicked out of the country!
RE:I missed this session with Shri B Raman
by Ganapati Hegde on Jul 12, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
I think there are lot of patriotic muslims who love India. We need to recruit more talented and patriotic muslims in the intelligence bureau,Police and other key departments, to effectively co-ordinate and gather intelligence about these alleged terrorist networks.
It is only a miniscule percentage, who give a bad name to the whole community.
We as Indians, need to stand united and defeat this menace of terrorism.
RE:I missed this session with Shri B Raman
by Master Blaster on Jul 12, 2007 10:01 AM Permalink
Yes this baskar chatopadyay is using 100 names and spawning this site with his hatred for all non bramins.Nowadays nobody takes this hate spreader seriously . So he is using another name and praising himself.
RE:RE:I missed this session with Shri B Raman
by Sheik Sankarachari on Jul 12, 2007 10:06 AM Permalink
This baskar chatopadyaya is a paid hired killer employed by hindu hate groups to insult the minorities and backward class folk and murder them mentally and pyschologically.He boasted that he is getting a six figure salary for his hate jobs!
RE:RE:RE:I missed this session with Shri B Raman
by AlarmedAquarian on Jul 12, 2007 10:14 AM Permalink
yes this baskar does not look like a sane man to me. his posts are full of hatred.
RE:I missed this session with Shri B Raman
by Omar Shariff on Jul 12, 2007 10:21 AM Permalink
this hate man baskaran chatopadyayan luckily missed B. raman interview. rediff announced many days of raman interview but this baskaran man did not see because he is blind man. so we all call him blind baskaran.what will blind man do. he will fall into ditch and it will be end of him. ha ha ha.
RE:I missed this session with Shri B Raman
by Bhaumik on Jul 12, 2007 06:33 AM Permalink
Thank god you missed it! You would sure have come out with your hate-filled crappy ideas which are not different from the terrorists', seeking endorsement..
No Indian government is very expert and interested in controlling our police and inteligence not the terrorism. If government does not indulge terrorism and does not paralyze our efficient inteligence and police, that will more than enough to stop terrorism. We the ordinary pepople can force our government to do that. My humble request to all my Indian brothers and sister to try their level best, to force our force our politician to do that otherwise within a short time our India will not be our any more. Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:Controlling terrorism
by Closo on Jul 12, 2007 05:45 AM Permalink
No, Indian government is very expert and interested in controlling our police and inteligence not the terrorism. If government does not indulge terrorism and does not paralyze our efficient inteligence and police, that will more than enough to stop terrorism. We the ordinary pepople can force our government to do that. My humble request to all my Indian brothers and sister to try their level best, to force our force our politician to do that otherwise within a short time our India will not be our any more. Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Government of India has no clearcut policy to fight terrorist actvities.Our policies in all sphers of activities are influenced by short term benefits that too in the day to day politics.Various extraneous considerations of religion,caste and creed play their part which our politicians think an important factor to catch votes in the elections.The people at the helm have no vision and they do not allow the administration to move as per the book.Political interference at every stage is the bane.The power is concentrated in the hands of those people who are selfcentred and who further nepotism.All schemes for the alleviation of poverty and social discrimination have taken a back seat.Political will is conspicuously lacking in dealing with terrorism.Our Government should shed complacency and deal with this problem ruthlessly to avoid any future disaster
I was really angry with LTTE over our great leader Rajiv Gandhi's assasinate.
But one thing is we should have proper mechanism to control all these kinds of organizations.
why are they (LTTE) fighting and what actually they are looking for now? equal rights or freedom??
dont know what these ppl are doing? giving Madarsas freedom in their education? no control over religion based institutions? no control over caste based organizations? no control over religion and caste based reservations?
what will be the solutions for the above questions?
RE:Never LTTE is a Threat to India????
by Arrow on Jul 12, 2007 05:05 AM Permalink
buddy, am from TN. once LTTE killed rajiv, they deserve no mercy nor sympathy. By killing rajiv, they earned the wrath of indian public, which I believe will never come to their rescue any day.
Apparently, Rajiv did backstabbing to prabhakaran, but whatsoever I wouldnt forgive them for the way they killed rajiv. No human deserves that treatment.
RE:Never LTTE is a Threat to India????
by Surya on Jul 12, 2007 08:17 AM Permalink
prabhakaran is not a political leader or a leader of nation backstabbing him is not recquired it should have been front stabbing.You are like justifying US backstabbing osama bin laden and you are sympathetic to them.
RE:RE:Never LTTE is a Threat to India????
by Saswat Praharaj on Jul 12, 2007 09:03 AM Permalink
Absolutely, TN government funded LTTE when LTTE was fighting Shanti sena in Sri Lanka. It was disgusting. Shame on the then TN Chief. I guess it was Karunanidhi. I feel really sad every time I recall those days.
RE:Never LTTE is a Threat to India????
by jaya krishnan on Jul 12, 2007 10:54 AM Permalink
Sending the IPKF to Srilanka was a real thoughtless mistake made by Rajiv Gandhi. But he was a good hearted noble leader. But notwithstanding all that, it's high time that northern Indian high handedness in dealing with the affairs of the tamilian populace stopped. LTTE are the most fierce fighters and who were the first to introduce suicide bombing which the Arabs later picked up.
RE:Never LTTE is a Threat to India????
by Edwin Navaratnam on Jul 12, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
Iam a Sri Lankan Tamil and know exactly what happened. The Indian government came here on the pretence of saving the Sri Lankan Tamils but has their own agenda.However when this did not happen they turned against the native Sri Lankan Tamils in the North and East. there was large destruion,looting ,raping and massacre of the Tamil population. Many Hindu Temples and Christian churches were detroyed. Many Hindu priests and Christian clergy were harrassed on the suspicion that they were supporting the LTTE and were encouraging the population to do so. Many of these Indian troops could not speak a word of Tamil and I presume they were shouting and screaming to us in Hindi which whichwas gibberish to us ( not insulting ) and we did not understand a word. Moist Tamils were were angry about this as the people who were supposd to protect you started to create immense harm against you. Rajiv Gandi was very naive, his mother would not have allowd this to happen. He was advised by many ambitious and anti Tamil men, who were later promted for the mess they created. the Sinhala politicians took him for a ride. The SriLankan govt(s) are racist and genocidal and due to thier policies 1 million native Tamils have fled . It is th eLTTE that is protecting the Tamil North. If the world calls the Ltte terrrists then they should come to save the SriLankan Tamils which they are not doing. The opressed is called the terrorist when they fight for thier just rights. We were never Indian .
