RE:Lal masjid...A eye opener to INDIA
by Hemraj on Jul 10, 2007 09:27 PM Permalink
This is a very good point.. but more then religious leaders politicians will object..
RE:Lal masjid...A eye opener to INDIA
by Bankey Bihari on Jul 11, 2007 02:02 AM Permalink
Whats new in your suggestion-? Indian army has already proved this by entering Harminder Sahib.
RE:Lal masjid...A eye opener to INDIA
by Upen Boka on Jul 10, 2007 09:20 PM Permalink
Wah wah cutlet gravy. Tujhe to plate may daal kar koi bhi kha jaayega beta. Permission ha..ha..ha..
Kindly realize the way PAK handle their crisis. militants hide in religious place even though they are Islamic country. They did not succumb to religious pressure and done what is require, not care about sanctity of the place. In our country so much Hue&Cry when our Army invaded Golden temple to take care of anti-nationals. We are respect every religion and the religious places, but not in the expenses of NATIONAL interest. It's feel sad when watch people throws stones to police or medical staff entering Hyderabd mosque to save injured people, why because they were entering mosque. Grow up guys, at least look at how PAK army take care of problem without thinking on religious terms. Indian Media should such images 1000 times a day at least then people would understand what is right thing to do
RE:People in India/Bharat/Hindusthan, wake up
by kailash jena on Jul 10, 2007 08:48 PM Permalink
our media people are the dogs ...they know what to write and how to make situation more complicated...they are more dangerous than our...nasty politicians...really we Indians are going to face a big problems in future..due to our corrupt aimless politicians...police officials...gov. officials...
RE:People in India/Bharat/Hindusthan, wake up
by xyz abcs on Jul 10, 2007 08:39 PM Permalink
well said..it is very convenient for a group of criminals to hide in religious institutions..
This is a desperate act by a desperate government.While Musharraf can be admired as being a tough general who knows how to say no to even violent extremists I am afraid in this case he has lost the sympathy of his admirers.This was a foolish act by taking on students who just were being steasfastly loyal to their religion.Pakistan today is in the grip of western influence.Musharraf is following the policy of secular turkey with its nationalist hardline young turks totally against any kind of religious outlook.Whom is he trying to impress? The west?.He would certainly be in for a nasty surprise.The US would only use him and disgrace him like they did to saddam.Musharraf should have been more sympathetic to the young islamic men and women and some solution could have defintely been found. He should have held direct face to face talks and compromised with their demands at least to a certain extent.These were not evil people. They were just demanding that progfanity and vulgarity that go against the tenets of Islam shouold be removed. Was that too much to ask?There was a way to deal with them.You do not approach these kind fo people with violence and hate. You have to respect them and reason with them kindly.Things would have worked out so well.Musharraf today has lost the admiration and sympathy of his few admirers. It is a matter of time that he wuld be soon thrown in the dust bin of history. Would India behave in the same manner with her terrorists like the bajrang dal?I doubt
RE:RE:musharraf and lal masjid
by pSSn hOMMe on Jul 10, 2007 08:54 PM Permalink
Please wake up to the reality around you. I pray that do not let these semi-educated, self-appointed protectors of Islam..the Mullahs.If something does not feel right..question it. There is nothing which is absolute in this Universe, and so isn't Islam. Please wake up to the reality that the west is exploiting this rigid & illiterate base (lacking main-stream education) to target you. You need not leave Allah to be smart & worldly wise . You can be a muslim & can still gel well with this world. Do not follow all the medieval teachings as they were meant for that particular time, scenario, enemies etc. Wake up and see that people generalise & say Islam is a cruel religion. You do not want this! Your actions are directly responsible for the image Islam has today. Please get into the main stream and shun the rules & regulations of Islam which are not relevant now..the interpretations of Mullahs are to suit their requirements. Do not fall prey to brainwashing about Islam being in danger. Remember -- Islam is in danger because of these ghastly & dishonourable & cowardly acts of violence committed by muslims.
RE:musharraf and lal masjid
by Upen Boka on Jul 10, 2007 09:26 PM Permalink
I Agree 1000 times. It is time muslims realise the actual ground reality and mend themselves. It is their people who are branding muslims as terrorists and abusing Allah and islam
RE:musharraf and lal masjid
by R Sinha on Jul 10, 2007 08:51 PM Permalink
Guys like you only harbour terrorists, unforunaty in current indian dispensation (of course in past one also) there are such idoits who are trying to show these blind people light of the day, they have failed in past and they will fail again. The fact is those who have taken guns understanding language of guns only. These guys will not listen till they know now death awaits them. Hopefully Indian govt. will use similar tactics to deal with all militants on Indian soil, just kill them once a few of them get killed rest will fall in line.
RE:musharraf and lal masjid
by xyz abcs on Jul 10, 2007 08:33 PM Permalink
u have a point there, but that cleric who headed the lal masjid was not a cleric, he was not religious, he was a damn terrorist giving threats that he would send suicide bombers. those militants use the shelter of the mosque for their terrorist crap.
shariah law is pretty outdated.dont get me wrong, i have nothing against islam, but the shariah law seriously can undergo some changes to reflect present day society. it was written at a time when most people in the region were barbarians and using the same outdated law in the present day would mean going BACK to those ages. what that ghazi wants is a COMPLETE shariah law where women would not be allowed outside their homes, and where men can rape anyone they wanted
RE:musharraf and lal masjid
by ahmed kasim on Jul 10, 2007 08:49 PM Permalink
Mr xyz abcs go to this site and understand better islam from US, not from asian country islamtomorrow.com
RE:RE:musharraf and lal masjid
by xyz abcs on Jul 10, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
i did look at that site..and i also looked at hundreds of islam websites..and ALL of them are out to prove that other religions are ALL WRONG..and that ONLY ISLAM is the way to reach God, when it is a fact that many others have reached God from many different religions. all these islamic websites have columns that try to prove that islam is great whereas other religions are bullshit..and THAT itself prompts me to leave those crappy websites
as far as shariah law is concerned, let me give u an example: if a woman is raped, she has to get 4 other witnesses otherwise the court will rule that she was not raped. now that law would have worked in 800 AD when the only people that lived were barbarians in that region, but that wont work now.
RE:musharraf and lal masjid
by xyz abcs on Jul 10, 2007 08:36 PM Permalink
dude and u talk of sympathy to young men and women? he gave them a WHOLE week, and also promised compensation and pardon and education for women..if thats not sympathetic, i dont know what is. militants cant hold students hostage, in fact they have poisoned the minds of those students to commit all sorts of violence in the name of religion..if they dont like something, then go about protesting it peacefully..u dont just go kidnapping people just cuz their culture is not compatible with yours..fool
RE:musharraf and lal masjid
by saif kashmiri on Jul 10, 2007 08:40 PM Permalink
rhazes, i am surprised at the way you are defending these islamist terroists. are you justifying the way these terroists used to kidnap chinease , rangers etc. who have given them right to interfer in others/public life .these lal masjid ghazi brothers wanted to build a state inside the state.
RE:musharraf and lal masjid
by xyz abcs on Jul 10, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
true..mosques are convenient locations used by terrorists to poison young minds..
RE:musharraf and lal masjid
by Magadi Raghunath on Jul 10, 2007 08:53 PM Permalink
Could you please give a few examples of this profanity and vulgarity? I thought Pakistan did not have the kind of 'liberalism' that we have.
and let me just complete and say few more words!why dont these media people including rediff ass..holes keep writting articles about problems in north east and about maoists so that people in other part of the country will realize about degree of damage that it can do to out nation.But these media dorks just wanna us to get busy in stupid discussion about Pak and all these sons-of-a-bitch islamic terrorits.
RE:Shut the f..uck up rediff!
by Saccha Hindustani on Jul 10, 2007 09:22 PM Permalink
bcoz rediff loves spreading terrorism master-minded by RSS/VHP/BD who uses their own version of QURAN to preach anti-islamic culture! Same as you who uses words like 'DORK' even against your parents!
RE:Shut the f..uck up rediff!
by avneesh tyagi on Jul 10, 2007 09:31 PM Permalink
You sound like frustrated person becoz you do not even know that RSS/VHP do not brainwash people and provide them with guns and bombs!I must let you know that RSS/VHP are nantionalistic organizations and do not do anything against nation unlike all Islamic organizations.Additionally, it might be that they oppose people who always do not wish to abide indian law and do not wanna come into main starms.Got it?
rediff sucks! coz we at home do have so many problems and media does not give enough coverage to it!I ask these rediff f.u..ckers that the maoist have killled dozens in Raipur and ULFA already has been killing innocent people but you f...uckers dont encourage everybody to have not only a discussion but also to do something for that becoz we and our goverment led by dummy PM have been shoing laid back attitude,and that is the reason that we still have these problems unsolved!and what the f..uc.k this media is doing is just having discussion about Pak and other things! I guess first we Indians need to clean our own a...ss..es!Right?
RE:Don't listen to Rediff
by R Sinha on Jul 10, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
So rather than using abusing language go out and do something. Let everyone know what you have done to eliminate miltancy. Talking big is easy, show your guts and do something.
RE:Don't listen to Rediff
by Upen Boka on Jul 10, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
Tum kya kar raha hai ..? Bhasan maar raha hai...Jaa too hee jaakar kuch kar. Hai himmat? Bhasan marta hai.
RE:Don't listen to Rediff
by avneesh tyagi on Jul 10, 2007 09:38 PM Permalink
Buddy!At least I do dare to talk about and believe that it will be heard, and feel doing something for my own nation even being thousands kms away ! but guys like you always stay at home and fear of rain and never come out!you got it?
RE:Don't listen to Rediff
by Upen Boka on Jul 10, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
I am 2500 Kms away. How does it matter? I have a home and go out too. It appears u r homeless. D'nt worry...will get one from INdira Awaas.
RE:Don't listen to Rediff
by avneesh tyagi on Jul 10, 2007 09:17 PM Permalink
Dude! this is exactly the problem we are having in India!Everybody asks others to do something.Actually what I'm trying to ask you guys to show consistent response to all that issues we have in India and try to come all together in order to come up with a concrete decision.Becoz media can really make us to see something that is really not happening and what we see is just an illusion and we think this is right!Actually I'm doing my best to do something for that!but you wanna join me you are most welcome my friend!but then you have to really show that you are a leader of your own!
