ARYANS WENT FROM INDIA TO EUROPE THEN HOW DID THEY BECOME A NEW WHITE RACE...THEY SHOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE INDIANS OR THE INDIANS SHOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE THEM...WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY SIMILARITIES IN LANGUAGE (AS YOU SUGGEST) THEN WHY ABSOLUTELY NO SIMILARITY IN RACE ?
DO YOU START LOOKING LIKE A WHITE MAN IF YOU GO TO UK OR US ? WILL YOU CHILD BE BORN A WHITE MAN EVEN IF YOU AND YOUR PARTNER IS BROWN? ONLY WAY IT CAN HAPPEN IS WHEN YOUR WIFE CHEATS ON YOU.
RE:@sanjay Choudhry
by bhaskar anand jha on Jul 04, 2007 07:56 PM Permalink
@Marigold..Hey marygold...muslims also good guys..but I wonder why most of the criminals are muslims..and also why do they harm their own countries...be it india or usa or africa or iraq. Will you please give me some satisfactory answer..Bhaskar
RE:@sanjay Choudhry
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
Good question. You come up with the stats comparing the level of criminalization across communities supported by authentic sources then I will answer your question.
Your question assumes that what you are saying is correct....Remember you are talking about a community of more than 1.5 BILLION thats a BILLION with a B.
So when you accuse 1.5 BILLION people then come up with some authentic and widely accepted stats then I will answer your question to your satisfaction...
NO I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY MUSLIM INVOLVED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES...THEY SHOULD BE CONDEMNED TO HELL.
RE:@sanjay Choudhry
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 07:44 PM Permalink
it will take another few million years before i turn into a arbee ghoda....according to your genetic mutation theory...
so what is the time between aryan migration and today ..... how much time according to the genetic mutation theory will it take to have the effect that we have today ? can a language have similarities between them in the span of time it take for the genetic mutation that you claim has happened ?
RE:Propoganda ???
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 07:25 PM Permalink
YOU CAN SEE THE CALCULATION IN THE POSTS BELOW...THEN TELL ME HOW CAN YOU STOP THE GROWTH.
RE:Propoganda ???
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 07:10 PM Permalink
HAHAHA again all accepted ... YOU TELL ME HOW ARE YOU GOING TO STOP THE GROWTH OF MUSLIM ?
RE:Propoganda ???
by crazyforsense on Jul 04, 2007 07:04 PM Permalink
Answers to UAE, Malaysia
UAE: Though predominantly Muslim, it still allows other religions to have their places of worship. They have a better emphasis on education and they have good business policies....all of which have helped sustain a non-oil reliant economy. But you are mistaken if you think they are not dependent on oil. Lot of the wealth of the super-rich their is in the form of assets that are heavily invested/securitized in oil.
Malaysia: Extremely rich in natural resources.....however since they dont have lot of land.....reality will catch up with them. Malaysia also has good economic policies in place and in general places emphasis on education.
In 40-50 years from now they will face the heat from a growing population.
1) WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF ISLAM, THE FAITH GAINS IMPORTANCE IN THE ABSENCE OF MONEY.. SO POVERTY IS A CATALYST FOR FAITH..
2) ARABS ARE NOT SUCKING THEIR THUMBS... THEY KNOW THAT OIL IS GOING TO DRY IN A FEW YEARS.. SO THEY ARE INVSETING HUGE AMOUNTS ON BANKING, REAL ESTATES AND OVERSEAS INVESTMENTS....
3) YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT THE SAUDI'S GOLD RESERVE, IT IS STILL NOT EXPLORED.. IT WILL OPEN UP ONCE THE OIL DRIES...
4) SO IN 50-60 YEARS YOU CAN SEE TALENTED MUSLIMS WHO ARE WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS WORLD...
5) THE NEWLY FORMED RUSSIAN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ALONG WITH CHECHANYA HAS GOT OIL RESERVES WHICH WILL BE EXPLORED VERY SOON..
THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS "HOW CAN YOU TURN OFF THE LAMP WHICH IS IGNITED BY GOD"
RE:Propoganda ???
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 07:00 PM Permalink
come on 40-50 years from now who knows how the economies will shape...one recession and all predictions go haywire .... Lets keep the ASSUMPTIONS to ourselves.
RE:In Africa Alone Everyday, 16,000 Muslims Leave Islam
by Mayala Fakir on Jul 04, 2007 06:49 PM Permalink
That's because they are dying out of brutal secatarian/tribal violence - not out of enlightenment...those poor people need food and water
RE:In Africa Alone Everyday, 16,000 Muslims Leave Islam
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 06:56 PM Permalink
When 50000 hindus leave Hinduism it is WORLD NEWS ... I saw it on BBC.... I wonder 16000 are leaving islam and no news channel knows about it....ITS BIG MONEY FOR YOU MATE...GO EXPLORE THE NEWS....
RE:In Africa Alone Everyday, 16,000 Muslims Leave Islam
by Gladiator on Jul 04, 2007 06:54 PM Permalink
HA HA HA, ANOTHER JOKE,, THIS NEWS IS NOT COVERED ANY WHERE TELL ME THE SOURCE.....
RE:In Africa Alone Everyday, 16,000 Muslims Leave Islam
by Jack on Jul 04, 2007 10:02 PM Permalink
Good joke. Fools paradise, you idiot do not live in dreams come to reality and convert to Islam, more soon, more better for you
RE:ENGLISH WORDS FROM SANSKRIT....CONT
by Gladiator on Jul 04, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
WHAT ARE SAYING VIDYUT,,, ARYANS CAME FROM EUROPE TO INDIA,,, THAT'S WHY THERE IS SIMILARITY BETWEEN SANSKRIT AND GREEK....
RE:ENGLISH WORDS FROM SANSKRIT....CONT
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 07:07 PM Permalink
SO HOW DID THEY BECOME SO FAIR AFTER REACHING THERE ? THE INDIANS SHOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE THEM OR THEY LIKE INDIANS...
RE:ENGLISH WORDS FROM SANSKRIT....CONT
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 07:33 PM Permalink
SURE ALSO PROVE THAT THE TIME BETWEEN THE ARYAN IMMIGRATION AND THE PRESENT INDIAN SOCIETY IS TIME ENUF TO CHANGE THE FACIAL PROPERTIES TO THIS EXTENT. IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT THEN YOU CANNOT CLAIM ANY SIMILARITIES BETWEEN ENGLISH AND SANSKRIT BCOS THAT LENGTH OF TIME WOULD DEFY LINGUISTIC SCIENCES.
RE:ENGLISH WORDS FROM SANSKRIT....CONT
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 07:13 PM Permalink
You mean if you GO TO US you will become a new RACE AND your children will be white even if your wife is brown? The only way it is possible is when your wife...
RE:ENGLISH WORDS DERIVED FROM SANSKRIT ...CONT
by Gladiator on Jul 04, 2007 06:56 PM Permalink
WHAT ARE SAYING VIDYUT,,, ARYANS CAME FROM EUROPE TO INDIA,,, THAT'S WHY THERE IS SIMILARITY BETWEEN SANSKRIT AND GREEK....
Very few people are aware that the ancient language SANSKRIT is the mother of European languages. English is one such language which owes its parentage to Sanskrit. Many of the words in ENGLISH are derived directly from Sanskrit. The following words ( more than 150) illustrate the relationship between English and Sanskrit. There are many more words which are not included in this list. Similar is the case between Sanskrit, German, latin and French languages.
ENGLISH WORDS DERIVED FROM SANSKRIT
I am = (ayam aham) Path = (path:) Son = (san, santaan, sounu) Daughter = (duhiter) Brother = (bratha) Father = (Pithru) Mother = (Mathru) Devotee, devotion = (devataa) Navigate, navy etc = (navgati, naav) Arm = (armi) Heart = (hridh, hardha, hrithay,) Cow = (gow) Same = (sama:) Dual = (dua) Pariah = ( para:) Cave = (cuva, guha) No, Negative , etc = (Nih, naa) Youth = ( yuva) Yoke = ( yukt) Cough = kapha: End = (anth) Van , vehicle, wagon = ( vahan) Mind = ( mana:) Map = ( mapa) Mix, mixture = ( mishr, miksh) Mad = (moodha) New = ( nava) Cash = ( kassa) Christ = ( Krishnatha %u2013 Lord of creation- God)) Create = ( from %u2018Kri%u2019 -kriyatah- work, do) Cut = (kart,chhit, kartarii-scissors) Attraction = (accarsion) Man = ( Manav, manush, manu) Name = ( naama) Cone, corner = (cona)
@marigold, gladiator.....special mention to you guys
Consider the following: In 40-50 years from now gulf will run out of oil, what will happen to these countries then? As it is they aren't present in most of the knowledge industries. It is all oil money that is running it for them. What will happen when alternative fuels become commonplace? The growing population with high illiteracy rates/radicalism will not be 'advantages'......they will be big disadvantages. Something to think about huh?
Also wonderful job selecting the ids, marigold, gladiator.....most people will think you guys are non-Muslims but given the zeal with which you defend the growth of Islam......it isn't that tough to guess who you are.
RE:All who rejoice in the Muslim growth rates
by Gladiator on Jul 04, 2007 06:48 PM Permalink
YOU DONT HAVE TO BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO KNOW THAT WE ARE MUSLIMS.........HA HA HA ...ANYWAYS CRAZY FOR SENSE ... I KNOW YOU ARE ONE AMONG THE MILLION HYPOCRITES.... ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS
1) WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF ISLAM, THE FAITH GAINS IMPORTANCE IN THE ABSENCE OF MONEY.. SO POVERTY IS A CATALYST FOR FAITH..
2) ARABS ARE NOT SUCKING THEIR THUMBS... THEY KNOW THAT OIL IS GOING TO DRY IN A FEW YEARS.. SO THEY ARE INVSETING HUGE AMOUNTS ON BANKING, REAL ESTATES AND OVERSEAS INVESTMENTS....
3) YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT THE SAUDI'S GOLD RESERVE, IT IS STILL NOT EXPLORED.. IT WILL OPEN UP ONCE THE OIL DRIES...
4) SO IN 50-60 YEARS YOU CAN SEE TALENTED MUSLIMS WHO ARE WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS WORLD...
5) THE NEWLY FORMED RUSSIAN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ALONG WITH CHECHANYA HAS GOT OIL RESERVES WHICH WILL BE EXPLORED VERY SOON..
THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS "HOW CAN YOU TURN OFF THE LAMP WHICH IS IGNITED BY GOD"
RE:RE:All who rejoice in the Muslim growth rates
by crazyforsense on Jul 04, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
Gladiator....if islam is going to progress to a moderate/liberal version, who can have a problem? I certainly dont.....I only have a problem with the radical....terrorised version of Islam which unfortunately has become too predominant.
"God" and economics are two different things buddy.
RE:All who rejoice in the Muslim growth rates
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
Ohhhh as if we claim to be anything other than muslims... SO HOW IS MALAYSIA AND UAE THRIVING WITHOUT OIL ? KEEPING YOUR EYES CLOSED DOES NOT MEAN THAT THINGS WILL GO YOUR WAY...ITS JUST VERY HUMAN TO FIND WAYS OF EARNING....
RE:All who rejoice in the Muslim growth rates
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 06:58 PM Permalink
SO IF INDIA HAS TO DEVELOP ALL YOUR SISTERS WOULD GO ABOUT IN MINI SKIRTS OR IF INDIA NEEDS TO BE A SUPER POWER YOUR SISTERS WOULD ROAM AROUND NAKED ? HAHAHA WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY ASSOCIATING DEVELOPMENT BY MINI SKIRTS ?
RE:RE:All who rejoice in the Muslim growth rates
by crazyforsense on Jul 04, 2007 06:50 PM Permalink
UAE: Though predominantly Muslim, it still allows other religions to have their places of worship. They have a better emphasis on education and they have good business policies....all of which have helped sustain a non-oil reliant economy. But you are mistaken if you think they are not dependent on oil. Lot of the wealth of the super-rich their is in the form of assets that are heavily invested/securitized in oil.
Malaysia: Extremely rich in natural resources.....however since they dont have lot of land.....reality will catch up with them. Malaysia also has good economic policies in place and in general places emphasis on education.
In 40-50 years from now they will face the heat from a growing population.
Very often, we first look at the religion of the person who is typing the message rather than the message itself. Some unscrupulous and shameless people exploit this....for eg. they will take a screen id which will seem to be of a particular religion and then abuse some other religion (which they actually hate) or they want to deflect the criticism of their own religion. They will be careful enough to select a screen id which will sound say Christian, Hindu etc...and post all crap.
Most people read that rant and hit back against the 'religion' of the person posting that message. So the pervert has scored a victory with this.
I guess we all should watch a little regards to the rants anyone posts and then we might have an idea of what that person actually is doing.
"johnson" tried that successfully. For whatever reason he posted crap with that name and is nowhere to be seen....until he probably reads this and jumps in again. Cheap try..."johnson". It doesn't take an Einstein to figure out who really you are and what you were trying to do.
Some of my very highly optimistic friends have concluded that muslims are killing each other and hence the growth of muslims around the world would come down drastically... Well !!! Here are the figures.
The population count puts the number of muslims around the world between 1.3 to 1.8 billion...I will consider it to be around 1.5 billion... Now...the muslim growth rate is considered to be about 2% to 3% .... All the great logical minds can work out for themselves how many muslims increase every month.... :-)
Lets assume for your happiness that 10 million muslims will be lost in all the conflicts in the next 5 years.... So the growth would be 180 million - 10 million and you get 170 million as the growth....
RE:@Wishful thinking
by Gladiator on Jul 04, 2007 06:27 PM Permalink
Dear Mari Gold, I can understand this STATS but all we need is the SALIGH MUSALMAANS, even 10 of them can create JUST & PEACE to this World....
1. Very high birth rates in most of the muslim countries 2. Less or no use of birth control 3. Strong stupid tendency of groupism amongst themselves which in turn promotes an insular outlook with the ideal of population expansion.
RE:RE:@Wishful thinking
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 06:30 PM Permalink
Thats wishful thinking...Again the point is...How will you convert the die hard fans...Ideological wars cannot be won by abuse or some posts on the message board. Only and ideology can fight an ideology....
But I am seeing mass conversions in some other religion right now... :-) Thats what I call fighting an ideology by another independent ideology.
RE:@Wishful thinking
by bhaskar anand jha on Jul 04, 2007 07:53 PM Permalink
@Marigold..Hey marygold...muslims also good guys..but I wonder why most of the criminals are muslims..and also why do they harm their own countries...be it india or usa or africa or iraq. Will you please give me some satisfactory answer..Bhaskar
RE:@Wishful thinking
by Gladiator on Jul 04, 2007 06:35 PM Permalink
There are a lot of Hindu Saints in India who talk about Yoga & Life Style or Whatever, but nobody has the Charisma or Magnetism to hold people in Hinduism... That's why Thousands of Hindus are leaving Hinduism... But for the past 30 years of my life I have never seen a Convincing debate from a Hindu Expert to justify the Truth in Hindusim.. I think Hinduism lacks Focus and confuses its followers... That's why people go away from Hinduism..
RE:@Wishful thinking
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 06:35 PM Permalink
Then why do so many hindus including you involve themselves in extreme abuse of other faiths ... you can check this message board.
