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it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by brahman on Jul 03, 2007 09:24 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

corporates to be blamed for the mess up of Mumbai not the corporation

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RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by ram v on Jul 03, 2007 09:43 AM  Permalink
i travelled from mulund to andheri on saturday. i drove the car amidst heavy rains . we climbed
Kanjurmarg hill which is very high . immediately after that in Hiranandani junction it was 1.. 1/2 feet water. now nowhere on earth this can happen except in mumbai

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RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by Viral Vandre on Jul 03, 2007 09:33 AM  Permalink
Well, i would think it the other way round. Its the corporations to blame not the corporates. The situation prevalent at present due to the heavy rains, traffic jams, water logging at several places is the outcome of the poor infrastructure at Mumbai. There has to be an equal weightage on both the parts, be it infrastructure, be it population. If infrastructure is on the higher side, it is better then the best but if the population is on the higher side and infrastructure fails to cover these population then its worse than the worst...

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RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by Hau Chin on Jul 03, 2007 09:59 AM  Permalink

In the next election, if our party being voted to power, our next Chief Minister will take care of this, if not, this is bound to happen again because who cares mumbai, except us!

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RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by raj jay patil on Jul 03, 2007 10:57 AM  Permalink
which party are you talking bout...chin....the CPI or the CPIM??

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RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by Balaji Shanmugam on Jul 03, 2007 09:45 AM  Permalink
good reply to viral & rajiv

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RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by MARC on Jul 03, 2007 10:08 AM  Permalink
Both Balaji and the so called brahman are ignorant idiots, most probably aliases used by filthy BMC corporators to clean their image.

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RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by brahman on Jul 03, 2007 10:18 AM  Permalink
thank you MARC..this is what is called escapism....

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RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by Fauji on Jul 03, 2007 09:30 AM  Permalink
Some wisdom from Brahman!

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RE:RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by brahman on Jul 03, 2007 09:44 AM  Permalink
I expected this debate and bashing...well... how long are we living in Mumbai...just go back to 5-10 years... the areas beyond Andheri in western side and beyond ghatkopar in centre side had witnessed hardly any commercial/residential development. the hapazard construction by the corporates like Raheja, Oberoi, Hiranandani, and so on without having provided proper drainage systems, wide enough roads, paking spaces, stilt parking etc. are the main cause of the current situation. The mushrooming malls, the waste being dumped on the road side, the debiris being dumped to the drains, open nullahs, plastic waste etc. added to the nightmere. Adding to the misery, the other multinational corporates, who boost about their quality controls and stringent procedures before setting up offices, did not think about the infrastructure available in and around the properties and set up their BPOs and other companies and started recruited people from all over India. The more employees with higher salaries added more number of vehicles on the road, more jopadpatties, kirana/pan/vada pav shops which added to the litters.. With more than a 10 million people in Mumbai, we expect a handful of BMC people to take care of everything... are we not responsible for the mess of Mumbai? In what way we are helping Mumbai to be clean, and habitable?

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RE:RE:RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by brahman on Jul 03, 2007 09:51 AM  Permalink
we all know very well that BMC is the most corrupt organisation in the world and licenses/approvals and permissions for the construction is a child's play for the corporates...
However, had the other corporates adhered to certain qualitative norms like drainage, potable drinking water, power, drainage, parking etc. before booking such properties, the builders would have been delivering a different quaility altogether...
the problem the BMC faces today is inadequate space to create more drains, cleaning of drains which is covered by concretised compounds and encroachments.
While we make hue and cry about hutments and encroachments, the elected representatives giving them protection to maintain their vote bank. Mumbai is slowly becoming the KARNA of Mahabaratha, who was killed not only by Arjuna, but his mother Kunti, Indra, Krishna, collectively.... and here, we all collectively kill a wonderful place like Mumbai...
It is time to think wisely and act sincerely to save this Akshyapatra of Mahabarata, which gives food for millions any time and everytime.

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RE:RE:RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by Rahul on Jul 03, 2007 09:54 AM  Permalink
Everybody should be blamed for the current situation.

What will be your contribution to improve the situation other than writing such messages by sitting in a building constructed by such corporates.



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RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by brahman on Jul 03, 2007 09:58 AM  Permalink
each one should ask the question to self, before simply shooting out a message blaming the corporation every time...

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RE:it is the corporates not the corporation to blame
by Rajiv Menon on Jul 03, 2007 09:30 AM  Permalink
Think before you write something.In what way is the Corporate responsible for the Corporation's failure to provide drains,proper sewage or good roads? Can the corporate sector take over the corporation's work without their approval?

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should resign
by Nirman on Jul 03, 2007 09:13 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

People at helm should resign. They have no accountability. they are just good at blame game. They are wasting tax payers money. let a corporate handle BMC and in a professional manner. otherwise things will never improve and such things will keep on going for years.

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RE:should resign
by Anil Nair on Jul 03, 2007 09:22 AM  Permalink
and who will pay these buggers(the politicians) their ill gotten money.



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RE:should resign
by vinayak kulkarni on Jul 03, 2007 09:47 AM  Permalink
You people keep writing and blaming corporation and politicians, remember its we people voted for these politicians, so can any one come out with the solution which can be implemented.

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RE:should resign
by Nirman on Jul 03, 2007 10:53 AM  Permalink
It is their job to see to it that such disaster are managed. If they are doing nothing then any body can sit and do nothing. My comment had a solution. create a competitive enviornment for managing the affairs of BMC. A corporate would do the best job. perform or perish. let new people come and manage.

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Lack of Prepardness
by Raman sSubramanya on Jul 03, 2007 09:05 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Although Bombay is hit by heavy rains year after year, the streets in the City disappear and the whole city looks like a big River during monsoon. This shows the prepardness of authorities concerned to face the monsoon fury !! We dont learn anything even after experiencing such situations on numerous occasions and improve our infrastructure to cope with !!!

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RE:Lack of Prepardness
by Anil Nair on Jul 03, 2007 09:17 AM  Permalink
HA! HA! HA! Even the Hon'ble High Court has been decieved. Look at the potholes resurfacing on the highways. and the toll collection is for putting the potholes and not delivering us a good road system. Jaago India Jaago!

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RE:Lack of Prepardness
by Hau Chin on Jul 03, 2007 09:59 AM  Permalink


If they had known ahead, they would have collected the rains in a bucket and pour it on the Arabian Sea... poor Mumbai

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What BMC is doing?
by prashant on Jul 03, 2007 09:03 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Even after so much had happened two years back, what BMC and MMRDA is doing is blaming each other for total failure in managing the rains in this city.

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RE:What BMC is doing?
by Uday Menon on Jul 03, 2007 09:00 AM  Permalink
how can BMC and MMRDA control the rains? Genius ?

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RE:RE:What BMC is doing?
by Kaustubh Date on Jul 03, 2007 09:04 AM  Permalink
Mr. Uday, no one is expecting BMC/MMRDA to control the rains, but to have proper quality control so that the drainage system is up to speed, the roads are driveable, etc.

If u lived in Mum, you would know!

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RE:What BMC is doing?
by Parvez Raza on Jul 03, 2007 09:29 AM  Permalink
i am living in mumbai BMC/MMRDA ko blame karne se pehle apne apne aap ko dekho

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RE:What BMC is doing?
by SHIV KHANNA on Jul 03, 2007 09:30 AM  Permalink
Mr Uday , it seems that you a citizen of UAE and do not have any Idea about Rains.

Regards


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