Godhra and Samjoha express both look the same, body of the train is intact, but it has burnt completely, this shows the bomer who planted the Godhra Bomb is the same people who did this.. Doesnt it look the same??
I generally like Raman's columns for the kind of information they provide. However, this person behaves irresponsibly time and again. For the kind of posts he has held in the past, he shouldn't be so narrow minded. In most of his columns, he brings in religion some way or the other. Look at this column for example. So many men, women and children were killed in the bomb blast and this person gives us the number of muslims and Hindus among them. What is he trying to prove by mentioning this? Since the percentage of Pakistani Hindus killed is marginally higher than that of Pakistani muslims, we need to condemn this attack, else it is not necessary to condemn. If this is the way educated and responsible persons think, no surprise that normal persons are posting such abusive and irrelevant comments on the message board.
RE:Raman's Column
by Raj on Apr 13, 2007 06:39 PM Permalink
It seems santa didnt get the point across, what Raman is trying to tell you is that its not neccessary that Paki terrorists will not target samjhauta trian as it will kill muslims, as more hindus travel to India than muslims from pakistan. The reason why the train was targeted was more to spread a feeling of fear among pakistani hindus, and achieving the aim of telling the world that India is not a secure place for tourists.
RE:RE:RE:New book in market
by Aruna Sathish on Feb 23, 2007 05:44 PM Permalink
don't care for Mr. RAV's word there is no gaurantee he respects any religion. but I tried to read Quran. its very difficult..its not very presentable. The way to understand religion is through their epics and relics. May be Quran is presented in a more understandable way many people would read. at present its knowledge is known only to scholars
RE:decline in hindu population , marching gladly towards minority
by EIJAZ on Mar 03, 2007 04:23 PM Permalink
27 hindus? may be many muslims converted to hinduism after being killed
RE:decline in hindu population , marching gladly towards minority
by EIJAZ on Mar 03, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
27 hindus? may be many muslims converted to hinduism after being killed
27-22 ! Had laloo known this statistic before he should have definitely sanctioned a more conservative compensation. dont know how he is repenting his lack of foresight.
RE:Laloo in remorse
by Shantih on Feb 23, 2007 10:40 AM Permalink
well said. but maybe youve spoken too soon. laloo is quite capable of revising the figure.
RE:Advertising Religion
by Shenidh on Feb 22, 2007 09:52 PM Permalink
Mr. Pranav, Even I can ask u the same questions what u have asked here. Let me repeat your questions replacing word "muslim" with word "Hindu" and just check how it sounds (replaced word are in single qoutes)
If any one comes in contact with these 'Hindus', they will start preaching about 'Bhagvat Gita' (example ISKON) and telling how that is the only real religion. What nonsense ? Why 'Hindus' can not see anything else other than 'Bhagvat Gita' and their religion ? If at all they want to learn religion why can not 'hindus' study other religions with open minds and open hearts?(Example: why don't hindus learn other religions like Islam, christianity with open minds and open hearts) Why do 'hindus' not allow others to follow their own religion? (example: forcing surya namaskara in schools, RSS bajrangi extremist forcing non-hindus to say Jai Shri Ram) Why the perspective that only 'Hindus' are their brothers and people of all other religions are their enemies ? Why this hatred against other religions, making their minds so wicked that they keep on killing others(Gujurat riots, babri riots, Australian christian Staines murder by dara singh).
So, how it sounds now. As a hindu i guess u shud be really feeling bad. I did not asked new questions. All I did was copied your questions and replace word 'Muslim' with word 'Hindu'. NOw it sound totally different right?
My point here is, you can ask these questions and these questions applies to extremist on both sides its not just related one community. fyi.. muslim know Hindu religion better than what hindus know about Islam. If HIndus sincerely study Islam with open mind and open heart (of course not what RSS shakas teach about muslims), their lot of misconception will be solved. I'm not saying Muslim are great they do not have any problems. They do have problems. Some problems have valid reason and some without any valid reason just how Other communities have.
RE:Advertising Religion
by Amit Kumar on Feb 22, 2007 09:38 PM Permalink
Please dont speak any thing stupid about the QURAN.. that is my personal experiece. My Mother was suffering from lots of disease from last 5 yrs. We have spent more than 2 lakh for treatment but nothing happened. Then somebody send us to meet Muslim BABA , That BABA was reading the holy book Quran and he will pour air form his mouth on my mom and on water , gave water to drink my Mom and unbeliveable ..we are not able to belive it disease gone in 3 months. Now My mom is very well. We are paying huge respect to that Muslim BABA.
Please dont thing that Holy book is for terrrorist.. or Pakis..This book is for Great Sainth and sufi BABA who is giving blessing to thousand of HINDUs everyday.
Quran was the book very favourite to LORD SAI BABA, who gave blessing to million s of Hindu his words was "Allah madad karega".
RE:RE:Advertising Religion
by Indian Analyst on Feb 25, 2007 02:18 AM Permalink
Because of idiots like you, Religion will always flourish at the cost of command sense and truth.
RE:Advertising Religion
by ganesh kulkarni on Feb 23, 2007 01:01 AM Permalink
I See lots of REMARKS here like " This message has been reported for abuse. The moderator's final decision is awaited. Show message" or "This post has been permanently removed following an abuse alert."And I am curious about the criterea of ABUSE. Doesnt anything baselessly said against Hindu comunity, religion, society, people, organizations or personalities amounts to ABUSE? Lots of messeges I read and never saw any bad thing in that are later REMOVED by saying REPORTED ABUSIVE. Many of those messeges are just facts and not comments to be called abusive. Thats why I wonder what is the definition of ABUSE really. Not single Hindu sentiments hurting messege get deleted but anything aganist slam get deleted immediately. It seems abusing Hindus or Hinduism does not fit in definition of ABUSE. As it is same on mainline media. If sentimets are supressed this way it will explode the way Gujarat happen. If sentiments didnt allow to vent they explode. Gujarat was mass explosion of setiments. When masses feel nobody to care about them or their sentiments they come out on road as mob and take law in their hands. Retaliation by masses and terror acts of tiny little group are two differant things. Hiding or supressing such truth dont stop such explosions but make them more distructively explosive. Hindu sentiments in this country are supressed by political system, media and all other means. If few of them sending angree messeges allow them to vent their anger, which helps to subside it. Dont supress or bulldoze that anger in form of messege and force it to turn explosive. Anybody listening?
RE:RE:Advertising Religion
by Shenidh on Feb 23, 2007 01:04 AM Permalink
yes, I'm listening to u. Even my message(just above ur message) is reported abuse. I donno why? bcoz it's fact i guess
RE:RE:RE:Advertising Religion
by Ashish Kumar on Feb 23, 2007 02:30 PM Permalink
hahaha what a gimmick!! muslims change their names to hindu names like kulkarni ...and start barking bad about hindus, so no will report a abuse.
And there is another person Amit Kumar he is telling stories about fakir and connecting to islam. Is it written is islam pray a fakir?, people like you are the so called secural, who are happy to see godhra happening but something like samjhutah exp cannot tolerate. pls mr kulkarni report abuse to my comment, hurry up.
Everytime there is a tragic incident such as this, WHY does the media start dividing the dead into Hindus/Muslims or Indian/Pakistani. All were Humans first. This type of discription in your articles will only create ill feelings. So please try not to do so.
RE:Tragic incident description
by lalith kumar on Feb 22, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
this division is not made by the Media. the media outspeaks the statements made by both the countries' officials. Perceive the difference.
RE:RE:Tragic incident description
by Neeraj shahini on Feb 22, 2007 09:15 PM Permalink
Dont say anything bad about the Holy book Quran, you may get lots of suffering for that. Lots of sufi and saint came with the book and stayed in the heart of the hindu..Even Hindu used to prayer a person who is keeping the Holy Quran in his heart Lord SAI BABA. Go and ask HIM, he will tell you about it.
RE:RE:RE:Tragic incident description
by Amit Kumar on Feb 22, 2007 09:25 PM Permalink
Please dont speak any thing stupid about QURAN.. that is my personal experiece. My Mother was suffering from lots of diseaase from last 5 yrs. We have spent more than 2 lakh for treatment but nothing happened. Then somebody send us to meet Muslim BABA , That BABA was reading the holy book Quran and he will pour air form his mouth on my mom and gave water to drink my Mom and all disease gone in 3 months.
Please dont thing that Holy book is for terrrorist.. or Pakis..This book is for Great Sainth and sufi BABA who is giving blessing to thousand of HINDUs everyday.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Tragic incident description
by Ashish Kumar on Feb 23, 2007 02:30 PM Permalink
hahaha what a gimmick!! muslims change their names to hindu names like kulkarni ...and start barking bad about hindus, so no will report a abuse.
And there is another person Amit Kumar he is telling stories about fakir and connecting to islam. Is it written is islam pray a fakir?, people like you are the so called secural, who are happy to see godhra happening but something like samjhutah exp cannot tolerate. pls mr kulkarni report abuse to my comment, hurry up.
The headline says BinLaden associates may have been behind train blasts as if it were a press release by the police (semantically, it is quite correct, but I dont think wild speculation should be put up as a headline). The author, right at the end, puts one line saying LEJ did somehting, so he thinks they may have been involved. People will do anything for eyeballs, won't they? Lets all cook up fanciful stories and put it up as a statement with a slight disclaimer "may". There may be green flying creatures on the planet nebunon-Z5. Kryptonite may cure cancer and aids at the same go. Heroin may be used to treat an Ebola outbreak.
Seriously, if Bin Laden was involved, why would he use a petrol bomb when he can afford to use some seriously damaging explosives? How likely is that?
RE:Bin laden connection- fact or speculation?
by Free Radical on Feb 23, 2007 06:26 AM Permalink
What exactly is your point? Are you saying that until a Boeing 747 is used to hit the Samjhauta Express, we shouldnt believe that Bin Laden or his associates are behind the attacks?
The article merely states that LEJ, which happens to be a member of Bin Laden's IIF, is a suspect. How hard is that to understand?
RE:RE:Bin laden connection- fact or speculation?
by Maximus Decimus Meridius on Feb 23, 2007 11:13 AM Permalink
What's hard to understand? Havent I written that in the writeup? I said, it is not a police press release but the author's conjecture. He's making up conspiracy theories and putting it up as a headline, as if it were the result of meticulous investigations. How hard is that to understand?
The bin laden-petrol bomb thing was an aside... Do I need to spell that out too?
RE:RE:RE:Bin laden connection- fact or speculation?
by Harish Gurumoorthy on Feb 23, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
Yaar Maximus, the author is a well known intelligence official, who has served in the RAW, India's external intelligence agency for a couple of decades. Surely his saying something is a lot different what you and I say, isn't it?
