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Correct Version : Reply to Mr. Pranat - Information.
by rafiuddin farooqui on Apr 03, 2007 03:36 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

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I learn the folowing from each religion:



Islam: Universal brotherhood. I do think its amazing the way Muslim Botherhood unites.



Hinduism: Its spritual and yoga teachings. (infact this religion didnt exist, the name hinduism was given by Britishers during population census to rest of indians after counting muslims and cristins)



Christianity: Being liberal and accepting change



Sikhism: Being devotional



Jainism and Buddhism: Non voilence



Mike and Rafiuddin Farooqui , my open question to you.. What do you learn from other religions? I am eagerly waiting for your reply.



My Reply to pranat



Thanks you asked me the question. The answer is



In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.



O disbelievers ( Non-Believers )

I do not Worship that which you worship

Nor do you worship Him Whom I worship

Nor are you going to Worship Him Whom I worship

Nor am I going to worship that which you worship

You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.



Al-Quran.



There is no compulsion in Islam. The verses obvious and loud and clear.



1.We Muslim believe that Islam is the oldest religion in the world. We believ on prophet, Adam, Noah, David,Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and other prophet Peace be upon them all.



2.The Holy Quran said that Allah ( God) sent messengers and reformers to all and every nation. Allah sent messegers to every nation to convey His message.



3.Allah sent Holy Books and Prophets to this world for guiding the right path to everybody.



4.We believ that the all relgions came before Islam were true and Allah sent. But people make changes amended, deleted, added, copy. The message lost. Few things can find here and there.



5.We believe that every born person in the world is a Muslim ( Born in Fitrah ) Every human being is a ( Born Muslim).



6.The Islam is the religion for all Mankind. This for all not only confined to Muslim.

The Holy Quran for you and for me. The book is for everybody. The message is divine constituition. The message guide all paths of life.



7. Propehet Mohammed P.B.U.H. is the messenger and servant of Allah. Like us. He conveyed the message to all of you. He did his work fully. The Quran said he is the last messenger and the Quran is last revelation. Allah will protect the Holy Quran.



8.Islam means peace. the peace comes where there is justice, equality, equal share of reources, no operession, no occupation, no Corruption. Where ever there is a problem there is definitely some thing against human nature.



Islam means peace and Islam taught same what other religions taugh

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MAN AND WOMAN in Islam
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 03, 2007 03:35 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies



Naturally,

Every Man has got a Monster in him.

and

Every Woman has got a Whore in her.



ISLAM restricts the Monster and the Whore

from growing in them. And guides them become pious.



Any body who does or says anything against ISLAM either is ignorant

or actually showing that Monster or the Whore.



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MAN AND WOMAN in Islam
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 03, 2007 03:21 PM  Permalink 



Naturally,

Every Man has got a Monster in him.

and

Every Woman has got a Whore in her.



ISLAM restricts the Monster and the Whore

from growing in them.



Any body who does or says anything against ISLAM either is ignorant

or actually showing that Monster or the Whore.

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Reply to Mr. Pranat - Total - information.
by rafiuddin farooqui on Apr 03, 2007 03:21 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Message from pranat



I learn the folowing from each religion:



Islam: Universal brotherhood. I do think its amazing the way Muslim Botherhood unites.



Hinduism: Its spritual and yoga teachings. (infact this religion didnt exist, the name hinduism was given by Britishers during population census to rest of indians after counting muslims and cristins)



Christianity: Being liberal and accepting change



Sikhism: Being devotional



Jainism and Buddhism: Non voilence



Mike and Rafiuddin Farooqui , my open question to you.. What do you learn from other religions? I am eagerly waiting for your reply.



My Reply



Thanks you asked me the question. The answer is



In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.



O disbelievers ( Non-Believers )

I do not Worship that which you worship

Nor do you worship Him Whom I worship

Nor are you going to Worship Him Whom I worship

Nor am I going to worship that which you worship

You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.



Al-Quran.



There is no compulsion in Islam. The verses obvious and loud and clear.



1.We Muslim believe that Islam is the oldest religion in the world. We believ on prophet, Adam, Noah, David,Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and other prophet Peace be upon them all.



2.The Holy Quran said that Allah ( God) sent messengers and reformers to all and every nation. Allah sent messegers to every nation to convey His message.



3.Allah sent Holy Books and Prophets to this world for guiding the right path to everybody.



4.We believ that the all relgions came before Islam were true and Allah sent. But people make changes amended, deleted, added, copy. The message lost. Few things can find here and there.



5.We believe that every born person in the world is a Muslim ( Born in Fitrah ) Every human being is a ( Born Muslim).



6.The Islam is the religion for all Mankind. This for all not only confined to Muslim.

The Holy Quran for you and for me. The book is for everybody. The message is divine constituition. The message guide all paths of life.



7. Propehet Mohammed P.B.U.H. is the messenger and servant of Allah. Like us. He conveyed the message to all of you. He did his work fully. The Quran said he is the last messenger and the Quran is last revelation. Allah will protect the Holy Quran.



8.Islam means peace. the peace comes where there is justice, equality, equal share of reources, no operession, no occupation, no Corruption. Where ever there is a problem there is definitely some thing against human nature.



Islam means peace and Islam taught same what other religions taught before Isl

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RE:Reply to Mr. Pranat - Total - information.
by Perv Sharma on Apr 03, 2007 03:28 PM  Permalink
If there is no compulsion in Islam then why was a Muslim man recently sentenced to death. The reason being he wanted to convert to christainity. Since you are saying nobody is better learned than you - U know the case is from Pakistan and the WEstern world put pressure on Porkistan to revert the action. How come the Mullah sentence a person to death only because he wanted to follow another religion. Is Islam some kind of a Mafia - it's just got one way ticket but no compulsion.

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RE:Reply to Mr. Pranat - Total - information.
by pranat on Apr 04, 2007 02:50 AM  Permalink
Thanks for your response. Just as from the Koran i can learn that Islam is a religion of peace so can i also learn that "lie in wait for kafirs and kill them whereever you find them, always lie in wait for them" etc etc. But clearly we shoud focus on the things that are correct and right.

Like wise i can also learn from the Gita that one should strive to do "Karma" and forget about the result and have no desire of a result which is actually in the hand of the divine. At the same time you might also choose to look at Draupadi and her five husbands, treason and gambling etc, but clearly you have to avoid looking at these just as you avoided looking at the "kafir killing" advices in the Koran.



But i am convinced that you are research oriented and tolerant. May Allah give you the courage to question and reason practices not only in Hinduism but also in Islam and Koran. Because thats the nature of mankind, to question, evolve and change.

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by pranat on Apr 04, 2007 02:59 AM  Permalink
I also agree that i know very little of Islam and not too much of Hinduism or any other religion beacuse i fundamentally believe that religion divides more than it units. But i am willing to learn but i can't accept that one religon is better than other or there should be only one religion in the world. I woudl rather have many religions , including hinduism and zorashtrians and Zionism... because we can learn somethign importnat from each culture, religion and civilization.

Poet Iqbal in sare jhahan see aacha said that "While Greece, Egypt , Rome have all been wiped out till now yet remains, this civilization ( hindustan) of ours {it has stood the test of time}. So respect this civilization for things that are genuinly worth remembering- Trigonometry, Calculas, Aryabhatta, Arthashastra, Yoga, Spritualism, Non violence in Jainism and Buddhism etc etc. Be magnanimous enough to overall the Kamasutra if you dont appreciate that part of life.

I dont think we will ever reach an agreement on teh role of Aurangzeb or Mohammad Ghori or Mahmud Gaznavi. Let Pakistan name its Missiles on these names ( for obvious reasons)while we take care of other main problems in India- Poverty and Illetracy.

I leave with an open mind. Trust you too will be able to have an open mind and heart.

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ISLAM GIVES WOMEN's RIGHT IN INHERITENCE.
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 03, 2007 03:02 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies





Women have legal right on property,

even if she does not earn anything.



Following is the minimum she gets legally.



1/2 of What each Brother gets from father mother

plus

1/8 of Husbands property and earning.

plus

1/6 of Each Sons property and earning.



Again women DONT HAVE any financial responsiblity.

whereas her brothers, husband and sons must have other many.



ISLAM IS GREAT.



40 PERCENT INDIANS(akhand bhaarat) HAVE UNDERSTOOD THIS.

hope inshallah remaining also will get soon.

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TRUTH PASTED AGAIN .......... AGAIN AND AGAIN
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 03, 2007 02:47 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies



Gandhi said.

TRUTH IS AS OLD AS MOUNTAINS.



and ISLAM tells people the same old truth that

was there in Bible, Torah, Zaboor, Vadas and Buddhism.



Islam tells again and again for different

generations. Because People either forget or

goes towards EVIL for fulfilling greeds.



Islam is against any EVIL. SATAN, ill DJINN, Psychologically DISORDERED HUMAN.



Evil is anything that goes against the Supreme

Order for Peace and Justice.



INDIA WILL BE IN PEACE ONLY WITH ISLAM

as was during 1200-1800AD.



ACTUALLY MOST PEOPLE ARE doing evils in the NAME OF MODERNITY.



but, don't forget that Modernity is a relative term w.r.t Time.



whereas TRUTH, PEACE, JUSTICE, HEALTH,

HAPPINESS, LOVE, COOPERATION etc are ABSOLUTE and ETERNAL.



these Modern people may start EATING FROM THEIR ANUS in the name of fashion or somethingNEW.



Modern people even HATE DOING what their

fathers did, let alone Moses, Budhha, Jesus and Mohd.



today is POST MODERN AGE. not modern. Please,

try to come back to old age TRUTHS.





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