I really support the Ban, These sadus and the religious political pple behind are only trying to cerate another Kashmir situation in Nepal. When things further worsen,the Govt would have to spend additional crores of rupees trying to protect the pple and the border, These resources ( Tax payers Money ) could instead be used for development and better infrastructures for the villages and the poor.Most of the villages & towns dont even have proper electricity ,water and drainage facility.
RE:Ban on Sadus in Nepal
by priya p on Feb 13, 2007 10:10 AM Permalink
FYI, Kashmir problem to the best of my knowledge was not caused by Sadhus or any Hindus! Its a minority state (predominantly muslim state) fighting for independence being fuelled by Pakistan for its own gains! Ask the thousands of displaced Pandits about the truth!!! There is no parallel b/w that and this situation.
My dear Hindu brothers and sisters, for 1000 years we have been robbed, pillaged, raped and demolished. All our holy shrines have been converted to Dharkas and Mosques and Churches. Today we are blinded by the western society and minority groups. But let us not worry my brothers, we have survived then and we are surviving now. We will be here tomorrow and the day after. After all, our Dharma is Sanathana Dharma. No one can obliterate the supreme truth. Our time shall come my dear friends. Let us rise above this. Let all Hindus unite under common brotherhood. Let us make India a Hindu state. Jai Hind.
RE:Our time has come
by on Feb 13, 2007 03:40 AM Permalink
Dude, the minute we become a hindu state,we will start fighting with each other,northies Vs southies,upper castes Vs Dalits.You talk about hindus uniting,would you give your daughter/sister to a man from another cates or language.The term "Hindu" was coined by foreigners,our identity was given by foreigners,if ever we united in all those thousands of years that you talked about,it was against aprticular religion or people.If you make India a hindu country, there will be no "hindutva" left.We have a history of civilization in India for more than 5000 years,out of that hindu kings have been fighting against each other for more than 4000 years and split the country up in hundreds of seperate kingdoms.So the moral of the story my friend is not to expect miracles and love what we have right now.Be happy that ours is a secular state and is getting the attention of the world,through unity,hard work and tolerance.Not by quoting sanskrit verses.
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by Ashish Kumar on Feb 13, 2007 07:26 AM Permalink
Don't you like to have unity among hindu community, cant you imagine if we were united, mughals could never had ruled us, they could never had converted the people in pakistan to muslims. I would like to contradict on what you said on unity- If muslims are unity , it doesn't mean an indian muslim would marry his/her children to a african muslim or a bangladeshi musilm marrying his children to a pakistani muslim. United means my dear friend is when ever we have issues related to religion we act in a unisom. Are you aware that thousands of people in TN, AP are being converted to chritians, thanks to not care attitude of the rest of hindus in rest of india. Let me tell you blankly more number of minorities specially muslims, we would have more unrest in india. So if we dont protect our religion we can never leave in peace.
RE:Our time has come
by Saddam Gandhi on Feb 13, 2007 12:45 AM Permalink
Survival is not important -surviving with dignity is. We lack courage and strong nationality feelings -selfless ness - we fight for religion but dont follow the religion. Let those sadhus sort out their own the issues along with god as they are near them.
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by on Feb 13, 2007 12:58 AM Permalink
Who said we dont follow religion? There are people among us who devotedly adhere to the religious practises and principles. First we should all understand that the core of Hinduism is Vedanta. Hinduism shines through its concepts and philisophies. Veda and vedic practises and rituals were meant for the prosperity of the entire world. Hinduism is not not everyone. It could well be used as a destructive tool under the wrong hands. For example, Manu's caste classification is on the basis on a human being's intelligence and progress rather than birth. Idiots intepret caste-based system on the basis of birth! We can solve this issue by adhering to Baghavad Gita. We should re-write our constitution based on that.
RE:Our time has come
by allen dsouza on Feb 13, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
whats the meaning of sanatan dharma? Have u read your holy books? Read them first and then try to explain what is sanatan dharma? The problem is people like you are just misguided. You yourself never make an effort to study and just because someone says something you accept it and follow the people rather than following your beliefs or religion.
Let the communists first win elections before making these changes like abolishing monarchy, declaring secular republic etc. The commies are using brute force to get these changes done, threatening violence if they dont get their way. I would wait for election results before hailing nepalese secularization. That way we will know if people really support these gun-totting communists.
After much turmoil Nepal is finally trying to get themselves on a path of stabilization. In order to do this they are trying to be a secular nation where all people will be viewed as equals. I admire this. Indian Hindus have no business going to nepal in order to incite feelings of hindutva to demand a hindu state. If nepal and India do well, the hindus in those countries will do well and it is up to us to keep our culture healthy and alive and pass it on to our children. We do not need a Hindu country do do that. Second, we must take a lesson from Islam, a religion that still dictates countries. Islamic theocracies by and large around the world are faliures. There are some wealthy states in the Middle east (where I lived for over 10 years) and I loved it there. However those countries are propped up by their immense resources and not really due to healthy economies. Secular states have the highest probablities of doing well and that should be the case for Nepal as well.
I dont think you can tell any sovergian country to do what we want. And they are not banning common people, just the fundamentalist groups just like you would do with taleban and jamait-e-islami. Also I do not see any reason why Nepal shouldnt be a secular country as long as it remain a democracy and not chinese dominated maoist communist state.
the Hindu fundamentalist should refrain themselves from doing such idiotic acts or we will end up with another headech if Nepal turns into maoist state just like they created muslim kashmir. If the kashmiri pandits had agreed to ladakh's king there wouldnt have been any muslim dominated Kashmir neither today's headech of pakistani militancy.
Listen to what people want and do not try to enforce what you want.
Sic and liar govt can allow and will do anything for jihadi terrorists, mafia comminsits or anti national missioanry b'cuz they are minority vote bank anything related hindu is communal
Dear readers, If a country like Hindu Dominated Nepal can ban our Sadhus,why we keep quit ban nepalis entry to India.If any one under estimates us teach them also in their own language,and action. then see the reverse? Even though India helps Nepal,they think that we are very weak.teach them a lesson,How they can do their business without India? Only we need will-power to take action. By-vishwanath.
RE:NEPAL BAN HINDU SADHUS.
by amit singhvi on Feb 12, 2007 07:51 PM Permalink
Hi Vishwanath, They are not banning indians, instead they are just trying to avoid problems due to their resolution of being a secular state. Well what difference it makes when you declare a state as Hindu, muslim etc. In my view humanity is the biggest religion of a human being, dont all the religion says this? And for what we should teach Nepal a lesson? Most of the ppl there cant even have 2-time proper meals etc. Then what will happen to Hindus in Nepal? You are again blind in ur own thinking. JAI HIND!!!
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by Achuth Munnannur on Feb 12, 2007 09:51 PM Permalink
"only existing religion which upholds humanity is hinduism" - Wrong! Let's make these claims after we have abolished caste-system. "demoralising effect on 1 billion hindus across the world." - Don't count me in, friend. I prefer a secular state to any theocracy. I am sure there are many like me.
RE:RE:RE:RE:NEPAL BAN HINDU SADHUS.
by Dinkar Singh on Feb 12, 2007 11:17 PM Permalink
He never counted those who are secularist I beleive. There were Jaichand & Mansingh also and we don't count them as Hindus
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by Achuth Munnannur on Feb 13, 2007 12:54 AM Permalink
Thanks, Prasanth! I find it amusing that all these wannabe-citizens-of-the-Hindu-Kingdom who are from my country, are preaching to Nepalis as to what is in their best interest! Nepal has every right to protect itself from malicious forces, in the same way as us. Dinkar equates Hindu fundamentalism to patriotism! How silly! If you think that Hindus can enter Nepal and disupt the calm and peace, why do you oppose Jihadis entering Kashmir? They are doing it for their religion too! Grow up and open your eyes, buddy!
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by Saddam Gandhi on Feb 13, 2007 12:49 AM Permalink
Dear Hari shankar, Please remember there si fine line between tolerence and couragelessness. We have tolerance or we lack guts? or we are too selfish? May be we are selfish or else how the 30 britishers can rule 30 crore indians? without the support of indians? India lacks the strong leader.
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by allen dsouza on Feb 13, 2007 10:52 AM Permalink
don't worry guys! The roor cause of all human problems, that is all the corrupt and filthy and dividing religions will be destroyed very soon! Cheers!
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by Prashant on Feb 12, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
Achuth, Count me in :-)
One billion hindus accross the world? when did you count them? I dont understand where these numbers come from? 5000 years, 33 core gods, 1 billion polupation etc etc.. I never read in any authentic documents about it except some propaganda news. BTY, what is wrong in nepal government's order? Its a sovergian country and has every right to do so. They are not stopping common people but just the fundamentalist like you would do with pakistan.
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by YuanKush on Feb 12, 2007 11:01 PM Permalink
That is why Hindu is called very old religion. It was from people started thinking about single god. It takes better shape now. I know the same mantra, what other part of Indian knows.
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by booty k on Feb 12, 2007 10:08 PM Permalink
ARE U A HINDU BY NAME ONLY. LEARN FROM MUSLIMS WHO CAN GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THEIR RELIGION AND U CAN JUST SIT AND CRITICISE UR OWN RELIGION .SHAME ON U.
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by YuanKush on Feb 12, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
Secular means tolerating all religions. Also the comparison of fundamentalism between different groups is also wrong. It reminds me Sword Vs Rose.
I dont agree with the last writer as Hindus have to have atleast one nation. What is the use when more than half the nation have to live under a dollar a day and beg. The comman man has to grease hands before he/she can get anything done. At first the hindus have to stop being apologetic about them selves. And share the sorrow around them, help the under preiveledged then ask for a referendum to abolish article 320, implement uniform civil code. Then we can talk of hindu nation by sprit where all religions are respected, but none appeased.
RE:Nepal ban Hindu sages
by YuanKush on Feb 12, 2007 08:29 PM Permalink
It is always good to eat by hard working. Some people are eating very easily w/o hard working using oil wealth, they may say anything like that.
