I would love to know the qualification of the members of the tribunal. Typically a tribunal should consist of agriculturalists, economists, scientists and other experts in water management apart from people with legal expertise.
But it looks like the tribunal only has people with legal expertise- retired judges!
One of the reasons a tribunal is setup so that litigations in supreme court can be avoided on policy matters but the tribunal seems to screw up time and again!
RE:Not enough experts in the tribunal
by on Feb 07, 2007 12:36 AM Permalink
Practically every paper has the names and qualifications of the tribunal. Instead why are you constituting your own tribunal of retd judges here?!
its surprising how our tamil, telugu and other north indian brothers have vanished when the reality comes out to light. Yesterday there were 100 pages of debates as to how justice has been done, and the case can rest in peace!! Where are the ones who commented? chickened away. unable to face the truth?!?!
RE:no battles here!!!
by on Feb 07, 2007 12:59 AM Permalink
Great argument... One misguided person supporting Karnataka's claim does not mean it is the truth... By the way, could you tell me from where does ground water come?
RE:RE:no battles here!!!
by illusion of me on Feb 07, 2007 01:13 AM Permalink
misguided person?? argument? what argument? u might wanna take a look at this link. http://www.sandrp.in/
how does it matter where the groundwater comes from? how do you account for all the unutilised groundwater in south TN basin?
RE:RE:RE:no battles here!!!
by on Feb 07, 2007 02:13 AM Permalink
For argument's sake, lets assume that we use "the underutilized" ground water in T.N. Lets say that next year Karnataka takes all the water in Cauvary. And T.N uses the ground water next year.
What will T.N do for year after next year? It is precisely for this reason that Commission was setup and they awarded the water according to the feedback from experts who actually seen the ground realities in both side of the border.
RE:RE:RE:RE:no battles here!!!
by JM on Feb 07, 2007 07:22 AM Permalink
Major contributor for ground water is not rivers. Tamil Nadu has been sitting on ground water and making demands for more water from Karnataka. It is like someone who owns a lot of jewels aplying for a poverty-ration-card because they dont have enough money for food.
RE:RE:RE:no battles here!!!
by on Feb 07, 2007 01:45 AM Permalink
Dude, I am not questioning the credentials of the author. Its just he might be misinformed.
We can not share water since we don't have enough is not a correct argument since this assumes Karnataka as a whole is entitled to water in kaveri. The state boundaries are drawn few years back (~50 years) but kaveri basin existed for millions of years. The water, however small it may be, should be shared based on the length of the river in both states. You can not divert water, entitled to people from lower part of river, to drought areas in other parts of your state which was not served by kaveri before. For example, take indus river. Can you divert all the water from Indus river to other drought hit areas like T.N, Karantaka, Rajastan in India instead of giving portion of it to Pakistan? No, you can not, both legally and morally.
RE:RE:RE:RE:no battles here!!!
by Narendra Kulkarni on Feb 07, 2007 09:31 AM Permalink
Continuing your argument, Madras should not get water from Krishna. Madras is nowhere near the krishna basin.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:no battles here!!!
by praveen pillay on Feb 07, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
I agree that Madras should not get water by cheating the people living in Krishna basin... If there is excess water then maybe madars should get it... Got it?
Cauvery runs for about 381 kms in Karnataka & 357 kms in Tamilnadu..Though Karnataka generates the maximum share of water flows through its catchment areas to the cauvery it is Tamilnadu that gets a greater allocation in the tribunal award! Ramakrishna
RE:RE:Cauvery Award
by S on Feb 07, 2007 12:42 AM Permalink
I think Cauvery belongs to everyone. If you think it belongs to Coorg, Coorg belongs to India so correlation, cauvery belongs to India. So all Indians have equal rights to it.
RE:Cauvery Award
by on Feb 07, 2007 12:53 AM Permalink
A river which runs through many states belong to all thosee states - and so it should be shared among all those states without hurting each other. I think this verdict does that to a large extent - becuase Karnataka always played foul when it comes to sharing the water. (If you think Cauvery BELONGS ONLY to Karnataka then, NOT even a DROP of water should come out of the state - even when the monsoon pours down and the whole of Karnataka is under water! Can you do that? That's why it belongs to Tamil Nadu as much as it belongs to Karanataka! Got it?!!) Palanisamy
RE:Cauvery Award
by on Feb 07, 2007 01:04 AM Permalink
Karnataka as a state was created just now... Cauvery Basin (including portion in (now) Karnataka and (now) T.N) existed for probably millions of years... You can not divert the water to drought ares in Karnataka which was not served by Cauvery before... Praveen
RE:Cauvery Award
by on Feb 07, 2007 01:01 AM Permalink
Could you tell me the source for this claim? Looking at the picture in the "Cauvery coverage" article, it seems like T.N has more than 60% length of river in it...
you think that the tribunal would not have taken this into consideration? pro karnataka guys take a break - this is some justice to TN after years of unfairness by karnataka!
RE:get a life
by Prasanna Veerabhadraiah on Feb 07, 2007 05:01 PM Permalink
dei mairu, enada pro karnataka, enada justisu? Unkenna veray vellaiye hilya? poi savuda. punnaka payi!
RE:get a life
by Sagar Haval on Feb 07, 2007 01:00 AM Permalink
Hi Karthik, I guess its appropriate to participate in this debate n try to solve the issue. Else there wont be any difference between us and ignorant ppl fighting on the street. Please present your facts.
RE:get a life
by K Ramanathan on Feb 07, 2007 12:15 AM Permalink
TN has only one major river - Cauvery. Karnataka has many Krishna, Godavari besides Cauvery. Water cannot be shared based upon from which state does it originate or what the catchment area %age is, but based upon needs. No award can be perfect for Karnataka if it has to share water with any of the states whether its AP , TN or Goa.
If the Union Govt cannot solve this problem, then we should wonder why the hell we are living in this Union.
RE:RE:get a life
by dontknow mightbe on Feb 07, 2007 12:44 AM Permalink
You are right Mr.Ramanathan that there are many rivers in karnataka krishna, godavari etc etc etc... Have you ever thought where those rivers originate and in which directions they flow...
Krishna : The river Krishna rises in the Western Ghats, at an altitude of 1,336 metres near Mahabaleshwar in Maharashtra, flows from west to east for a length of about 1,400 km, through Maharashtra, Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh. The Krishna has a drainage area of about 2.59 lakh sq km. Together with its trihutaries, it flows for about 704 km length in the State. SO WHAT DO THE PEOPLE IN SOUTH KARNATAKA DO??????? and please do check this link you will get an idea
RE:RE:RE:get a life
by S on Feb 07, 2007 12:49 AM Permalink
Wait till there is another direction on the sharing of Krishna and Godavari waters with AP. Karantaka seems to fighting with all its neighbours by following a narrow approach on sharing of waters. They have a built a huge dam called Almatti to reduce downstream flow of water to AP and this causing serious water problems to farmers in AP. Why should only Karantaka farmers benefit from waters of rivers which are national resources? This shows the narrow mindedness of the govt. there.
RE:RE:RE:get a life
by K Ramanathan on Feb 07, 2007 12:51 AM Permalink
Lets also not forget Godavari and other rivers like Bheema and one river that goes to Godavari. THe point being with inspite of so many rivers, Kar has history of fighting with its neighbouring states and even Supreme Court pointed this out.
RE:RE:get a life
by Santosh Chadichal on Feb 07, 2007 09:24 AM Permalink
Mr. K Ramanathan, u seem to be modern day Bhagirath! U brought Godavari river to Karnataka! Thanks a ton.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godavari_River
It is a pity that ignorant people like you make comments here as if you are de facto experts on water sharing.
RE:RE:get a life
by JM on Feb 07, 2007 12:36 AM Permalink
This attitude is exactly why Union cannot You are not people of unity and solidarity. You only think of yourself. There are differences between Kannadigas, Maratas or North Indians and everybody else. Only Tamilians talk about not being in the union! Yep, dont live in this union. You are free to go to move Sri Lanka! Simhalas will teach you a lesson!
