It is obvious that the author of this article has not read the verdict in its entirety. He has failed to note important points like - 50 tmc of catchment water will remain with karnatak other than the 270 tmc alloted. Moreover, you need water to recharge ground water...it does not appear magically ! Unfortunately people are only reading the final 2 numbers and not the details. Actually, Karnatak's only problem is that there is no clear cut distress sharing formula in the verdict.
RE:Flawed article
by Raja Krsnan on Feb 07, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
yes clear verdict on how the water is shared during distress years is more important. tamilnadu wants to play politics then during drought years for votes. now what karnataka asking is not something out of world. yes, in a way karnataka can smile all the way and if needed they can get a favourable verdict from supreme court. who spoiled tamilnadus party - its politicians who who compete in distributing free sarees, tv's, mangalsutras/thalis, rice etc. who suffered. the people who voted them to power
flaw in not in the article, its in the minds of the biased reader.
I have already reported to P M 's Office against this article which is indirectly fuelling the flames. I request both Kannada and Tamil nadu people to rise their voice against such articles. Vande....Maataram !!!!
RE:Rediff's Articles on Cauvery
by Raghunandan HJ on Feb 07, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
this is a perfect article. so you should report this to all so that every one gets aware of the truths and facts
RE:Rediff's Articles on Cauvery
by Lucifer Sam on Feb 07, 2007 10:57 AM Permalink
You are hilarious. you've heard of a thing called free speech? what gave you the right to complain to PMO also gives us the right to say what we feel is right.
Who cares for what an informer rat thinks? go ahead and complain to the UN, afterall that is what you've always done. Instead of arguing logically and rationally, run to a more powerful one and claim your great heritage and culture... blackmail emotionally and politically and get what you want. cry babies
RE:RE:Rediff's Articles on Cauvery
by Maha Stud on Feb 07, 2007 11:24 AM Permalink
oh yeh ... free speech in this country.... try say something u dont like abt gandhis.nehrus...n u see u'll be on da wrong side of the book....
Rao has ritely ..pointed out this article acts as a fuel..... m NOT a kannadiga or a TAM ..... but its NOT gud to see indian fightin with each other .... so baby grow up
Himanshu Thakker\'s article is biased as he fails to point out that Cauvery water is required only for two districts of Karnataka i.e. Mandya & Mysore whereas the Cauvery water is required for all the districts of Tamil Nadu . Whereas Karnataka have other rivers to fall back on, Tamil Nadu have none . I also fail to understand why the Cauvery Tribunal should look into matters of groundwater or efficient matters of utilising the water for which they are not equiped . They were only there to given an award on sharing of the river\'s water\'s .
RE:Himanshu Thakker's Article on Cauvery Tribunal Award
by Raja Krsnan on Feb 07, 2007 11:27 AM Permalink
who said only two districts? apart from mysore and mandya what about chamrajanagar & hassan. himanshu cameout with a well researched article. dont blame him. i know it hurts tamils very much. verdit is you get 419 tmc, to be released on 192. of this 192 30 to kerala, 7 to pondicherry. so left with 155. Tamil nadu won and lost water. Karnataka lost and won water.
Tamil nadu is a inefficient user of its water resources. they paid the price for playing politics with water.
RE:RE:Himanshu Thakker's Article on Cauvery Tribunal Award
by ravi chakravarthi on Feb 07, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
The fact is - Truth hurts and thats what the Tamils are feeling after reading Himanshu's column ... Facts are always difficult to digest guys ... Anyway, Karnataka has always shared it's land, water ,air and jobs with other states and will continue to be big hearted, but that doesn't mean TN should try to take us for a ride, that won't be tolerated ..
RE:Himanshu Thakker's Article on Cauvery Tribunal Award
by Lucifer Sam on Feb 07, 2007 10:59 AM Permalink
if they were not equipped for it, why did they accept such an assignment? Cant you guys talk rationally atleast once in your lifetime?
RE:Himanshu Thakker's Article on Cauvery Tribunal Award
by Prashanth K S on Feb 07, 2007 10:54 AM Permalink
Sinu,
Don't put comments as a fool, if you are not staying in b-lore then ask your brothers in b-lore, from where they get water. when Cauvery Tribunal formed, with in that they suppose to consider Ground water also, but they didn't.
I am tamilian, I live in Karnatka, I love Karnatka I speak KANNADA more then any other language, people here are very nice and good, they give respect and others also should respect them. KARNATAKA is the only on land it is GOLDEN LAND AND SANDAL LAND, now most of the other state people are migrating here, they should learn kannada and respect the local language, but when I see the people staying here for many years even they know Kannada but they don't speak kannada, it is not correct, whereever we are we should respct local lanugage and local people. tomarrow if anything happens only our neighbours will help other state people will not come to help us.
RE:cavery
by nanda kumar on Feb 07, 2007 10:38 AM Permalink
Dear kishore, Really u r a good human being rather that indian, tamilian or kannadidga, you are absolutely correct, we should love and respect the place where we stay, rather than commenting and creating communal tension, i want to say that if any of them not interested they would go back to their places and nobody stops, and but staying here and commenting the place and the people not correct
RE:cavery
by ravi chakravarthi on Feb 07, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
Hats off Sir !!! Even iam a tamil speaking Kannadiga ... I share ur views too .. Thats what makes karnataka and bangalore unique .. But, henceforth such good behaviour from us should come with a statutory warning -- BEWARE GUYS, DONT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR GOODNESS .
RE:RE:RE:cavery
by The Lion on Feb 07, 2007 02:02 PM Permalink
Whomever they in this nation has his own wish on speaking a langauge. Being a konkani one can speak marathi or being a telugu on can speak tamil or vice versa. Its individuals right! Nothing is must in this. In the globalized era, all this are baseless and crap thoughts. But no one should create any disrespect, be it to a city or province or to a nation.
RE:RE:RE:cavery
by Lucifer Sam on Feb 07, 2007 02:07 PM Permalink
hmmm... how many? can you give me numbers? or will you also make that statement that the drains were clogged with bodies of tamilians all over the state? 15 [and according to another report 20] died in that 1991 riot. majority of them due to police firing and not because they were butchered by Kannadigas. facts are hard to accept, creating your kind of fiction is easy. you keep repeating the same old stuff again and again and you think that is the truth. I wish you all the best and hope you get well soon. Wish I could have sent you flowers a la Munna Bhai, but I dont know your address
RE:cavery
by Jayaraj Shantharam on Feb 07, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
A good one and I share your opinion! A tamilian by linguistic and born a Kannadiga, I am a fifth generation Tamilian settled in Bangalore.
There is no place in India like Bangalore, and there are no people in the entire world who are of course as humble, sincere, helping and supporting in nature as a Kannadiga.
Infact I miss the greenery in my city, All I look forward is I want my city back to its normalcy
RE:cavery
by Raja Krsnan on Feb 07, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
an unbiased view. i appreciate that you decided to go by facts. i am also an outsider, settled in banalore since 1974. this place has taken people along with development. that has to be appreciated. what went wrong with tamilnadu is its politicians tried to outwit each other for votes. also the government of TN suppressed the actual facts, fearing that verdict will go in favour of karnataka. Inspite of an adverse verdict Karnataka gained with a strong evidence to contest the verdict in supreme court.
Rediff.com is publishing inflammatory articles which will provoke Kannada and Tamil people indulge in violence and bloodshed. This is clear from many of the responses which are being blocked or hidden. I feel some anti Indian elements are behind Rediff's actions. Dear people of India, do not respond to such articles if u love your motherland.
RE:Rediff trying to Divide India
by Raja Krsnan on Feb 07, 2007 11:34 AM Permalink
there is nothing inflamatory in this article. facts are facts. read the article properly. dont read thru colored glasses. some replies to this article are to be termed inflammatory. now that is a crude fact.
RE:Rediff trying to Divide India
by Mohan Kishore on Feb 07, 2007 10:28 AM Permalink
they don't have self respect, that's why these people are doing like this.
RE:Rediff trying to Divide India
by Prasanna Veerabhadraiah on Feb 07, 2007 10:50 AM Permalink
Hats Off to Rediff!! to the depth of information which it provides. It is a true of example of media at its best. Keep up the Good work Rediff!!
RE:Rediff trying to Divide India
by shravya on Feb 07, 2007 01:15 PM Permalink
Very much true. I sincerely request Rediff editors to stop this.
I dont understand how you are removing some of the messages posted either by Kannadiga or tamilian. This will create a problem against your blog and a more to your portal.
RE:Rediff trying to Divide India
by Madhavarao Patil on Feb 07, 2007 10:28 AM Permalink
Deffinatly we love our mother land Mr. Rao We dont want learn it from LTTE supporters & people. Any how article is true & accept it first. How u people accept it, coz it is againest u na. Hey Kannadigas pls pls support the article.
RE:Rediff trying to Divide India
by murali dhara on Feb 07, 2007 10:48 AM Permalink
First learn to accept facts.. this article is in no way inflamatory... in karnataka lot of tamilians are leading gud peacefull life n we all respect them because they are also from india which everyone including rediff adhores ,, there are no ugly incidents happenning towards tamilians in karnatka ...its not rediff who wanted to devide country..everyone knows that tamilnadu wanted to be a seperate country... whatever tribunal verdict is purely based on political influence in centre which tamilnadu has..
RE:Rediff trying to Divide India
by girish gowda on Feb 07, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
The article is not of an inflammatory type.Author has expressed his faulty technical views at the tribunal.It shows the biased award by the tribunal against people of karanataka.
RE:RE:Rediff trying to Divide India
by Maha Stud on Feb 07, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
oh yes........ technical faults ... uhmm then i wud like know the qualification of the author
RE:Rediff trying to Divide India
by Veeresh Hiremath on Feb 07, 2007 10:42 AM Permalink
All Other Competing states to karnataka afraid of Karnataka's growth, So they are doing all these in injustice, Just See the figure all other dirty neigbhours got more than 1 tmc/ft per Sq Km and for karnataka less than 1 why this injustice.
Just they are zelous, because they are not being capable to progress on their own, so want to be ahead, by cutting Kranataka's progress. Please mind one thing, ours is holy soil, nonbody can spoil, Please think constructive.Otherwise die like Duryodhana.
You are instigating and abetting violence in the mind of people. This is a criminal offence. You can be tried for this . Before there is a PIL against you , stop reporting such news immediately .
RE:Rediff beware
by Sadguru on Feb 07, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
Whats wrong in publishing such articles. He has just given the facts and you cannot suppress facts, got it? Its you who should be tried for stopping people to know the facts. Every one knows that just because the current TN government supprts the Congress in centre TN has got that share. You guys first stop over utilising water for water intensive paddy filed on third crop and grow some thing which uses less water.
RE:RE:Rediff beware
by Usha Mandgi on Feb 07, 2007 11:08 AM Permalink
Dear Prasanna and Sadguru
Rediff is not the only media where you can get to know the facts . More than a healthy and meaningful discussions , it is becoming abusive and ugly . Since epople cannot be stopped from their postings . REdiff might as well stop reposting such news . PL note . i am also a Kannadiga .
RE:RE:RE:Rediff beware
by Prasanna Veerabhadraiah on Feb 07, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
1 question to you - do you think it is injustice to karnataka or not? If yes, then how will you react to it?(Most professionals in bangalore will not go on streets) My sincere request is to allow people to express views (it is their constitutional right). Kindly note, the world for some maybe just be a place between 4 walls of a IT Company. But the real world isn't. If you think Rediff is abusive & ugly, then what will you say about the last time this happened (100 killed, etc). Have you heard the cries of farmers, seen the fire on streets? If you have, you won't tell that this is abusive & ugly.
RE:Rediff beware
by MALAPPURATHU NARAYANAN on Feb 07, 2007 10:35 AM Permalink
I fully agree with you. In one of the messages posted on rediff, they had used the word "f*****". Rediff team should first screen the messages to ensure that there are no abusive and unparliamentary words. Then only they should post it on the site. Rediff should remember the Kharagpur IIT MMS episode in which the CEO of the website was arrested for selling the porn MMS through their website.
RE:RE:Rediff beware
by Lucifer Sam on Feb 07, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
what is the relevance of the precedence you've quoted? can you talk sense or atleast attempt to be rational for once? And come to think of it, the Dravida movement is supposed to be rational and not emotional... unfortunately, these days, it's only emotional showing no sign of any logic or sense...
RE:Rediff beware
by Prasanna Veerabhadraiah on Feb 07, 2007 10:54 AM Permalink
Dear Usha, I pity your ignorance on the current happenings. For your kind information there has been no violence inspite of injustice done to Kananda people. Hope you understand how peace minded & mature people here are. Go get your statistics right and come back. All the best!
Medias are the one who are making violence between the people. Dont fuel more for the house already in fire. Its not at all required to put this kind article at this time, which is not fair. Does the author know the cost required for using ground water? Can the poor farmers afford the price as of the fuel cost is very low like 1 rupee per liter or less. He should go down to the lower level and collect the information. Sitting inside the AC room and writing article is very easy for every plumps. He should talk about the practical life. Let him advice the Indian govt to provide all the facilities to get water from the ground at free of cost or at very low price like 1 rupee per liter. At the same time does he know the cause happen if the ground level decreases? The same author will write later that because of decreasing ground level water such things happened. Let the author go to hell first otherwise keep quite at this stage.
RE:Medias are fueling violence
by Lucifer Sam on Feb 07, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
bro, have you understood why the groundwater level decreases? or how to harness it? have you heard of rain water harvesting? how do you know he is a plump and he sits in a AC room? why do you bring in personal comments into such a discussion? why should the author go to hell? because he wrote rationally? you guys claim to be rationalists right? do rationalists believe in hell?
RE:Medias are fueling violence
by Raja Krsnan on Feb 07, 2007 11:37 AM Permalink
you are right media is to be blamed for violence as they blow out of proportion everything.
This article has nothing which is blown out of proportion. its bare facts. the reality. in reality tamilnadu lost credibility as its politicians stooped too low to get the favourable verdict by holding veiled threats to central govt. shortly the poor people of tamilnadu will pay the price for the foolishness of thier political leader and bureaucracy.
RE:Cauvery River water sharing
by Raja Krsnan on Feb 07, 2007 11:40 AM Permalink
facts are crude. please learn appreciate that these facts were not known to the general public. today even many news papers in karnataka carried a detailed analysis of this verdict. i find many replies rather indulging in sectarian and uncontrollable passion.
RE:Cauvery River water sharing
by The Lion on Feb 07, 2007 02:10 PM Permalink
It has no other way being indirectly threatened by anti elements. That is what shoud be! This same happened when the article over bangalore > bengaluru was published here.
RE:Good article
by we one on Feb 07, 2007 10:25 AM Permalink
kindly don't address in a bad manner by one article and you are not good enough to judge anybody by any means. The farmers know the problems faced by them. as a reader, you read and understand the situation and you are not great to comment on these issues which is running for more than 75 years.
RE:Good article
by Vijay K Anand on Feb 07, 2007 10:23 AM Permalink
Hey, people like you are a stink to the society, who blindly jump into conclusions. Look at the rift created between Kannadigas & Tamilians, just for sinister designs. INDIA cannot be broken by people like you. JAI HIND.................
RE:Good article
by baskar babu on Feb 07, 2007 10:17 AM Permalink
dont address the whole "TAMIL PEOPLES" in this issue... By doing so.. you are that kind. Baskar babu
RE:I Really dont like this REDIFF site.
by Velladurai S on Feb 07, 2007 10:25 AM Permalink
You are cent percent correct Mr. Ram. I am going to give up my rediffmail hereafter. Plumbs living royal life dont have the chance of understanding the poors.
RE:RE:I Really dont like this REDIFF site.
by Prasanna Veerabhadraiah on Feb 07, 2007 04:48 PM Permalink
Mr Ram/Vella, its a case where your sons/daughters have run away with other caste people and Ur not able to digest it when some neighbours are asking you. Long live Rediff for posting such facts.
RE:RE:I Really dont like this REDIFF site.
by Raja Krsnan on Feb 07, 2007 11:43 AM Permalink
do you think by giving up your rediffmail rediff will close down. i wonder we still have such people with closed mind. just bcos it came out with crude truth.
RE:RE:I Really dont like this REDIFF site.
by nilesh on Feb 07, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
rediff article is for mature, science understanding people, no doubt the tribunal awards will be quashed in the Supreme Court.
