Lets be broad minded and look for always a WIN-WIN situation. Today our country is growing, awarness is growing along. We sensible INDIANS, need to think beyond emotions. The only Long Term solution is to unite the Rivers and is very much possible in today's India. Rather than putting the ball in Poltician court and they play for their gain than us, What do you think WE SHOULD DO?????????
RE:What Should we INDIANS do to UNITE the rivers?
by Akhilesh R on Feb 05, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
"Uniting" rivers would be a terrible, expensive environmental disaster. It would be cheaper to do some solar desalination. And more prosperous.
Well, I have been browsing through the message board for some time. I usually browse Rediff Message Boards, but this is the worst of all. Some messages implant hatered, some contain unmentionabe comments... all these between people(educated, atleast to the extend of using a browser) of two states. Is that all the tolerence we have. After all these can we still "proudly" call us Indians and we "enjoy Unity in Diversity"? I dont think so... If somebody incharge of message board reads this: PLEASE DISABLE THIS MESSAGE BOARD IMMEDIATELY
RE:What is wrong with all of us?
by ramesh p on Feb 05, 2007 07:00 PM Permalink
YOU ARE RIGHT AND APPRECIATE YOUR VIEW. ALL ARE GOOD AND RULES ARE MADE FOR OUR COMFORT AND MAY BE CHANGED WHEN EVER REQUIRED. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF THE GOVT COULD SHARE A TRUE WHITE PAPER ON THE CAUVERY ISSUE AT THIS KIND OF SITUATION.
RE:RE:RE:What is wrong with all of us?
by kumar on Feb 05, 2007 08:34 PM Permalink
Shameful yes, but most of these venom seem to come from one state and not the other.
Furthermore, it seems that cable operators in Karnataka has blacked out Tamil channels. How childish and how anti-national. I remember once they wanted to black out all bollywood movies from Karnataka. Come on, Karnataka is not an isolated state, its part of the Union and there should be no blacking out of anything.
Being a North Indian, it saddens me to see South Indians fight like this
RE:RE:RE:RE:What is wrong with all of us?
by Prashant js on Feb 05, 2007 08:57 PM Permalink
when ur people blocks HINDI national language it will not become Antinational???
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:What is wrong with all of us?
by Thiagarajan Venkatesh on Feb 06, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
You (Prashant) didn't read the full chain - and just like that replied or what?
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:What is wrong with all of us?
by on Feb 11, 2007 04:17 PM Permalink
We never blocked any language. Hindi can be second langage in TN state board it self we respect another right. we do no force people wo do not know tamil to read and write tamil
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:What is wrong with all of us?
by kumar on Feb 05, 2007 09:19 PM Permalink
why would we ever block Hindi language. We, in north india are always asking people to learn hindi so we can speak in one voice. You write crap. Maybe you think i am south indian ha ha
Politicians only wants to gain a mileage pl understand details of verdict before becoming violent on media publications. Total water generated by cauvery in karnataka on average rain fall - 462 TMC. In this karnataka share - 270 TMC - 58.44% TN share - 182 TMC - 39.45% To sea - 10 TMC - 2.1% Total water generated by cauvery in Tamilnadu.on average rain fall - 270TMC TN share - 237 TMC -87.1% Kerala - 30 TMC -11.1% Pondicherry - 7 TMC - 1.2% Sea - 3 TMC - 0.6% WATER FROM TN CAUVERY BELT DOES NOT FLOW IN REVERSE DIRECTION TO KARNATAKA.
Please understand and dont go by big figures(419TMC) of TN(as the more water to it is got from its own catchment).
Here a balance is drawn to utilise water more resourcefully for agriculture.
we as Indians should not get instigated by happiness of TN chief minister or sorrow Karnataka CM, we should think on linking all national rivers to solve water problem for every citizen n country. Just imagine Brahmaputra - 3500 TMC only flows to Bay of bengal. Similarly how much water goes to sea Ganga - Yamuna- Godavari- Narmada- Mahanadi- Indus- flows rapidly in north never dry. Sutlez- borders India but can be utilised better.
WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES BUT NOT UTILIZED BECAUSE OF POOR VISION OF ALL EARLIER HEAD OF STATES , WHOOSE FOCUS IS PIGGY POLITICS TO WIN NEXT ELECTION.
RE:CAUVERY FOR ALL
by on Feb 05, 2007 09:19 PM Permalink
MANGALESH YOUR RESPONSE IS LOGICAL AND SENSIBLE, YOU ARE NOT SHOUTING HERE LIKE SOME STUPIDS UP THERE. GOOD
RE:CAUVERY FOR ALL
by Sharan Patil on Feb 05, 2007 06:48 PM Permalink
when TN generates 237 tmc then what is the reasons to ask more water from Karnataka????????????????
RE:RE:RE:CAUVERY FOR ALL
by raj on Feb 05, 2007 07:35 PM Permalink
Total availability of water is 750 TMC and if you are pleading fo 560 TMC, then what kind of sharing you are talking about?You are asking everybody involved to put with your opression...
RE:RE:CAUVERY FOR ALL
by Randhir Hebbar on Feb 05, 2007 09:06 PM Permalink
Exactly, I would like to know what is the basis of the demand for more water to TN than Karnataka. Is the demand been looked into. What was the basis of the calculation? Was the total irrigable land looked into? Was the kind of crops grown there looked into? Was the water required for irrigation in the two states calcualated scientifically. If yes, then the details need to be provided rather than send a one line notice of the award.
RE:RE:RE:CAUVERY FOR ALL
by N Mangalesh on Feb 05, 2007 10:23 PM Permalink
The average data collected is of 100 years of rain fall, capacity of our dams that can irrigate the land in both states because of dams & as well as the course of flow.
The tribunal consists of water resourse planning experts who are much more qualified than me & u ,
more than all we must think future rather than quarelling,
we are all divided on what not- religion, caste, creed, language, state partition, water distribution, power distribution, petty vote bank politics etc.
Being educated we must talk, think & leave as better citizens of India.
RE:RE:RE:CAUVERY FOR ALL
by Natarajan B on Feb 06, 2007 06:10 AM Permalink
The Demand is more as per the Riperian Rights, the last point is entitled to the water so that the entire strech will get water
HOPE WE ARE ALL ARE CREATING PROBLEMS OURSELVES....? DOES ANYONE HAS GUTS/GOODWILL/ TO ASK FOR JUSTICE IN A POLITE MANNER TO THE GOVT./COURT? IF SO... STOP TALKING RUBBISH AND MOVE ON ACTION. HOPE INTERNET IS FREE FOR ALL OF US AND CAN TALK/WRITE ANYTHING...
It would be better if REDIFF could provide a poll option and not a discussion forum for sensitive issues like this. PLS REMEMBER ANY UNWANTED MESSAGE MIGHT CREATE A PROBLEM.... IF U WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE NATION YOU MAY DO IT WITH OUT TRIGGERING HUMANBEINGS ACROSS THE STATES AND DO NOT TRIGGER HUMANBEINGS. YOU CAN ALSO GET THEIR OPINIONS BY POLLS. HOPE IT MAKES SENSE.
I am not a tamilian, but I know this issue has to be settled like this only. It is the life of farmers in both the states. When a tribunal (neutral) giving a verdict , they would defintely consider the needs of both the parties. LET US UNITE. Let the politicians keep quite and they are the problem creators. If I come to your house, will you not give a cup of water to me ?
RE:No farmers against farmers - Only Politicians
by on Feb 05, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
Absolutely right. I am proud to be a Kannadiga and I give life to crores of farmers of other state without compromising our share. The people of forum in Rediff are well educated. Why within the educated brains got this much of aggression and fanatics ? Guys, please realise.
RE:No farmers against farmers - Only Politicians
by Randhir Hebbar on Feb 05, 2007 09:09 PM Permalink
Of course we will sir. But then if we had a Cup of Water and you had a cup of water and both of were really thirsty. How would you react if I drank my whole cup of water and took half of your water too.
Initially when Ist agreement was signed in 1920's Karnataka suffered in the hands of British power and now by this tribunal. The tribunal should have given weightage for the water requirement for drinking water to Bangalore and other cities & towns and in addition to the agriculture crops. As such in TN three crops are grown in a year and in Karn not even one crop is possible if stipulated water is released. As a upper reparian state Karnatake should naturally have Ist right to use more water than the lower reparian state. This is in line with the Bachawat award for Krishna water wherein Maharastra was given max share. Karnatka should appeal against the verdict.
RE:Cauvery Tribunal verdict has done injustice to karnataka
by vijay meganathan on Feb 05, 2007 06:53 PM Permalink
R a fool, go dco your home work, even according to international law u rnot suppose to stop the water following between the countries, ok....
If we guys fight like this the whole world will start laughing. I just don't know man , let me ask have you been to the farm land r do u knw wht 's happening to the farmer , they r driven by politician
RE:Cauvery Tribunal verdict has done injustice to karnataka
by Adithya KV on Feb 05, 2007 05:58 PM Permalink
lower repairian state???... Will you please be more profesional with your viewpoint?
Dear People ( resident of Karnataka) Look at teh way Karnatak is being treated. Be it classical language issue, border issue or water issue or anything for that matter, the centre Govt has ensured that Karnataka always is at loss. How do we keep on digesting. Let start fight to make right Judgement. But No Voilance please. Voilance will helps for Political members only.
RE:Wake Up Karnataka
by mahendra ganesan on Feb 05, 2007 06:16 PM Permalink
Sometimes one has to digest the truth. (All)Tamil's r not telling kannadigas r stupid. The classical status or cavery dispute is based on the scientific facts. If u disagree, give some facts. Question it. These two things are unquestionable.
Greek is a classical language. German is not. But now german's are smartest in the world. Even english is not classical. They have accepted these facts. This did not hinder their intelectual dominace over other's. So there is no need worry abt it. ur intelectual dominace will be apprieciated irrespective of the orgin and history. Then later kannadigas will become history.
hello friends, please u people first know the fact..TN does not have any water resources and they deliberately needs water...its a nature gift we should distribute it to others n v dnt ve rites to own ourself...pls dnt make these issues a big one ...v all indians n pls b broadminded ...dnt fight each other...
