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by kumar on Feb 06, 2007 03:03 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

If Mahe had lots and lots of water, does it mean that TN shouldn't share its water with Karaikal. NO, Why???? because Mahe's water cannot be transported to Karaikal. So Puducherry's needs might be certain amount which it might have, but it might not it have it everywhere. Similarly, North west TN does not have water and depends on Karnataka for water.



If TN were two seperate region, north west TN (lets call this TNA) and the rest of TN (lets call this TNB). Most of the rain that falls in that area of current TN, falls in TNB so TNA will be dependent on the state upstream to provide it water. THe state upstream would be Karnataka. TNB cannot provide TNA with water because it is downstream from TNA. Even if Chennai gets flooded with fresh water, it cannot provide North West TN with water. SO instead of thinking of it as giving another state water, Kannadigas should think of it as giving another region of India with water.


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Let think about this logically
by kumar on Feb 06, 2007 02:57 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

If TN were two seperate region, north west TN (lets call this TNA) and the rest of TN (lets call this TNB). Most of the rain that falls in that area of current TN, falls in TNB so TNA will be dependent on the state upstream to provide it water. THe state upstream would be Karnataka. TNB cannot provide TNA with water because it is downstream from TNA. Even if Chennai gets flooded with fresh water, it cannot provide North West TN with water. SO instead of thinking of it as giving another state water, think of it as giving another region of India with water.

Just like, if Mahe had lots of water, doesnt mean that TN shouldn't share its water with Karaikal. Why???? because Mahe's water cannot be transported to Karaikal.

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RE:Let think about this logically
by Antony George on Feb 06, 2007 07:31 AM  Permalink
hi,
i think u shouldnt call the rest of TN TNB because TNB has a full form- Tenaga Nasional Berhad- the nain supplier of electricty to malaysia. haha have a nice day

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sharing during drought years
by Shyam Radhakrishnan on Feb 06, 2007 02:55 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The tribunal has indeed made provisions for drought years. It says "In case the yield of [the] Cauvery basin is less in a distress year, the allocated shares shall be proportionately reduced among the States of Kerala, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Puducherry."

The media has conveniently ignored this statement even though it is obviously important. I copied this passage from The Hindu.

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RE:sharing during drought years
by kumar on Feb 06, 2007 03:05 AM  Permalink
well said. I saw an article on rediff which said that TN wanted 562 tmc ft of water and wanted Kar only to have 416 tmc ft of water. They forgot to mention on rediff that TN wasn't asking Kar for 561tmc ft of water. Because they didnt mention this, people thought TN was being unfair for asking so much water. These stupid media (Rediff included) are responsible for much of the discontentment with this verdict.

Please also read my comment below which also illustrate why this verdict is quite fair. (I am neither Tamilian or South Indian)


If Mahe had lots and lots of water, does it mean that TN shouldn't share its water with Karaikal. NO, Why???? because Mahe's water cannot be transported to Karaikal. So Puducherry's needs might be certain amount which it might have, but it might not it have it everywhere. Similarly, North west TN does not have water and depends on Karnataka for water.



If TN were two seperate region, north west TN (lets call this TNA) and the rest of TN (lets call this TNB). Most of the rain that falls in that area of current TN, falls in TNB so TNA will be dependent on the state upstream to provide it water. THe state upstream would be Karnataka. TNB cannot provide TNA with water because it is downstream from TNA. Even if Chennai gets flooded with fresh water, it cannot provide North West TN with water. SO instead of thinking of it as giving another state water, Kannadigas should think of it as giving another region of India with water.


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Come on people
by Southie on Feb 06, 2007 02:25 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

all of you are getting emotional about a decision that is made by a committee. this committee does not favor either state. This neither a victory for TN or a loss for Kar. its a victory for all Indians that this divisive issue could be put to rest. As a fellow South Indians (neither Tamilian or Kannadiga), I am glad this issue is now over and I hope all respect it.

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RE:Come on people
by BR on Feb 06, 2007 03:25 AM  Permalink
This issue is not over. It is just a beginning.
even with wrong and injustice this decision, I don't think TN can get the above said allocation easily. This issue is going to prolong as KN is going to appeal and disregard the current verdict.

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RE:Come on people
by FUTURE on Feb 06, 2007 02:46 AM  Permalink
GOOD. But these people will fight themselves and lose their economical balances.

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RE:RE:Come on people
by Stay Cool on Feb 06, 2007 03:08 AM  Permalink
and so you want all companies to move to Kolkata, Pune, Mumbai etc,.. corret?

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RE:RE:RE:Come on people
by Aniruddha Phatak on Feb 06, 2007 04:29 AM  Permalink
No stay cool. We want some companies to move to cities in TN which will get a better water supply. Cauvery water will not be shared with Maharashtra or West Bengal. Hence no advantage to the companies if they move to Kolkata, Pune or Mumbai!!

Just kidding. :-)

The truth is that if the Indian population continues to grow at its current rate and the rains fail every alternate year, no amount of water from any river will be enough for us.

We have to look at all factors leading to growth and progress of the people of TN, Karnataka, Kerala & AP.

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the numbers
by illusion of me on Feb 06, 2007 02:25 AM  Permalink 

so whatcha tellin me is, during a dry season, no matter what TN shud be getting 419tmcft?
even if there isnt a grey cloud in sight on top of KAR?
cauvery flows equally in both the states. TN has acatchment area of its own which is regualrly feeded by he monsoons. So apart from that TN demands another 192 tmcft regularly and if its catchment area does not have enough, fill it up with KAR's share, disregarding KAR's farmer's suicides. illogical and absurd.

if we pay for ur electricity...u pay for our water!!

r u sharing the revenues that you are getting from the madras port or for that matter tirupati devasthana. ur absurd logic of 'just because a river is born in the state, it does not give any rights to the state', is kind of skewed, considering tirupati devasthana.


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fair?? my brown ass
by illusion of me on Feb 06, 2007 02:02 AM  Permalink 

where vud india be without its states...
u owe something to ur mother/motherland before u even think abt becoming an indian. india has always boasted of 'unity in diversity'. Aren't u swaying away from this. there is diversity and will always be. unity is something which comes when everyone gets a fair share and everyone is equal.

the decision is absurd. karnATaka's plan o expand its agricultural land will remain a dream forever. farmers will die, committing suicide and you are boasting of being indian and on top being proud of it.

thu nim janmak beMki hAka

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Nationalise Rivers
by on Feb 06, 2007 01:56 AM  Permalink 

I think the best solution is to nationalise all Rivers in India. All regional politicians will only think about Vote Banks, not to resolve issues.

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Balasaheb
by ramu on Feb 06, 2007 01:35 AM  Permalink 

We need leader like Balasaheb to solve this type of problem.we hindus are fighting for water.Karnataka should share more water TN.Its shows bias to TN.


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