RE:Why Can't we unite again ?
by Unmai Vilambi on Dec 29, 2007 12:29 AM Permalink
I am not sure which of the 4 countries you belong to :-). Your idea indicates you are not Indian. Because, most indian may be willing to merge with Nepal and Bhutan, but not with Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Assuming that the USI you are talking about happens someday, it will not good tight for long. The resulting breakage will give birth to many more pieces than that got united.
India is far from 'united' even with it's existing states. It is by gods grace that the North and South are holding together for 60 years now.
RE:RE:Why Can't we unite again ?
by Samosachat on Dec 29, 2007 09:33 PM Permalink
India is together despite not being homogenous is because of the policies of nehru and Gandhi. India did not go for theocratic military rule. India went for secular democracy. India is struggling but it is not colapsing. Pakistan stands as an example to the world that military dictatorship and theocracy fails. India is following the right path. India is having some growing pains now but we can be hopeful it can improve.
RE:Why Can't we unite again ?
by Bharat Naruka on Dec 28, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
What a crazy thought.
It is not possible because of great hostility and even if it is possible, here is why being an Indian you should not think about it
1) Terrorism which comes into India by way of infiltration will become part of mainland India 2) We will be most populus country in the world. 3) It will be threat to all the Hindu's to have Jehadis roaming around us freely 4) While India is doing great on economic front, this will trigger a backward journey 5) Peace, which is still rare commodity in India will only be in our dreams. 6) Pakistan has no development, no industries that means adding 400 useless million people without any extra resources.
So please keep these weird thought confined to your brain.
RE:Why Can't we unite again ?
by Perdesi on Dec 28, 2007 11:13 PM Permalink
I'm very thankful to Jinnah to create such a country where all the rogue elements of the society can live happily ever after...
RE:Why Can't we unite again ?
by Sg Sak on Dec 29, 2007 12:34 AM Permalink
Congress and Communists will be happy though. They will further justify the Muslim reservation based on the new composition. The Leftist "historians" and "eminent persons" will in fact twist the naked history to write volumes that it was India which joined Pakistan and Bangladesh and not the other way around, and hence Indians should take a secondary role and should not insist on secular constitution anymore.
RE:Why Can't we unite again ?
by figureitout on Dec 28, 2007 10:22 PM Permalink
gosh! dont even think of this possibility...drag will be 100 times more than thrust. understand?
remember the adage " one rotten mango can destroy the whole basket" and you are asking us to add a whole basket of rotten stuff????????
Brilliant analysis and well articulated, Mr. Verma. It%u2019s almost shocking how in this day and age the nation of Pakistan still represents an impoverished, fundamentalist and backward state that struggles to maintain any semblance of a democracy!!
I feel proud to be an Indian (and I don%u2019t mean that in a Pakistan-bashing way) just going by how far we have come in terms of economic prosperity and security. Sure we still struggle with our own issues of communalism, poverty and corruption but we deserve to take pride in our achievement since partition and propel forward.
If anything, our leaders ought to learn from Pakistans mistakes on how the merger of religion and state (and military) can yield disastrous consequences for any prospering state!
RE:Brilliant and Lucid Assessment
by off side on Dec 29, 2007 12:55 AM Permalink
"It is also doubtful whether Benazir could have had any impact on India-Pakistan relations. " -- A K Verma
Cutlet Gravy, your are looking for proofs?
Tell me is RAW supposed to merely doing some kind of cricket commentary or do something productive. Do you not think we need what is loosely called "Actionable Intelligence"? Do you not believe that RAW could play a meaningful role to bring the two nations on good terms and help out reach common understanding so that so called ISI instigated terror is scuttled via baatcheet?
If yes, then let us remember not only what Late BB thought and did at the beginning of here life journey but what she concluded towards the end sobered by all experiences in her command. She said she would like to see India and Pakistan have a common currency and common Presidency!
Now the hallowed effort of Late BB, can it or can it not have real and decisive impact on India-Pakistan relationship. It could if we try, not if we say "it is doubtful....".
RE:Brilliant and Lucid Assessment
by off side on Dec 29, 2007 09:34 PM Permalink
Those endowed with OLQ shall also have a sense of humour. They will realise that my previous post was without prejudice to your rejoinder. They may think a step ahead as well...
RE:RE:Brilliant and Lucid Assessment
by off side on Dec 29, 2007 09:03 PM Permalink
"Benazir, as prime minister ........would have been unable to stem the tide." ----------- His conclusion,given the present stances of the concerned authorities and powers they be, is unquestionable. The nitpicking in earlier post was mere half truth and half conjecture. The succint analysis Mr. Verma has put forth is indeed lucid and brilliant.
To avert the downslide the only realistic option is full restoration of the Supreme Court which has been at the loggerhead with the present power structure solidly backed by twin super powers. He has clearly implied this in "...have rarely been concerned with nation building or democracy" but has been left unsaid.