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Why Conversion happens
by rashmi sahu on Dec 27, 2007 03:40 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Hungary man has no religion. Thats what vedas and upnishad says. Once mans primary needs food, clothing, shelter, education is met then only he can think of God. In ancient India people were looked after by Kings. As in Vedas Almighty God has told Kings/rulers to look after its subjects like its own children. However with destruction of vedic culture posr mahabharat, advent of Islam, invasion by other countieries and subsequently loss of gurukul system, this approach got over. Britishers and Christian missionaries has manipulated lot texts esp shastras for there benefit. In the modern times it is theduty of government to look after poor and provide them education and with other facilities.However in independent india this is not happening.The money donated to all the temples is usurped by hungry Government on the name of secularism. This is not happening with churches, mosques etc. On the name of secularism this money is not used for the cause for which people have donated it. Not even 10 percent amount is used for charity of poor hindus, and development of other facilities.
This land has already been tolerant for a long time to other religion. This tolerance to other religious belief has been taken as a sign of weakness or cowardice of Hindus. Now people have started understanding things. Further it is fuelled by the number game of Islam and Christianity where the main name is conversion not spiritual emancipation of a soul i.e conquest.


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RE:Why Conversion happens
by cupid on Dec 27, 2007 03:43 PM  Permalink
Religion needs money to survive -->chanakya,arthashastra ....

just wait for 10 years,we hindus will raise and we will bring back all those misguided indians back to parent HINDUISM

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RE:Why Conversion happens
by Albert Adibadla on Dec 27, 2007 03:47 PM  Permalink
BY TERRERORISM?? YOU TALK LIKE A HINDU TALIBAN??

IS YOU LEADER MULLAH MODI?

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RE:Why Conversion happens
by prabhat on Dec 27, 2007 04:48 PM  Permalink


Mr ALBERT ADIBADLA
can u tell
WHO WAS YOUR FOREFATHERS?

YOU KNOW?????

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RE:Why Conversion happens
by adi shankara on Dec 27, 2007 03:51 PM  Permalink
O Hindus (Followers of Brahminism) Follow yr Gita, Vedas & Upanishada. Follow yr religion properly, NATISTO PRATIMA ASTI AND GOD IS EKKAM ADITYAM clearly mentioned there. Do go behind all these man made gods.

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RE:Why Conversion happens
by nandadeepa agrochemicals on Dec 27, 2007 04:27 PM  Permalink
hey man,
let us have a damage control system. Let us all unite and throw away caste system. How will you bring back the people back to hinduism? To which caste they will belong once brought back??

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RE:RE:Why Conversion happens
by sreejithg g on Dec 27, 2007 03:55 PM  Permalink
Well said dude! We Hindus should not be this much tolerant. In which country except India the minorities get this much privileges? We should have made the country as a Hindu nation.

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RE:Why Conversion happens
by rashmi sahu on Dec 27, 2007 03:45 PM  Permalink
To end this hatred of religion we should do yoga which really tears illusion and try to understand each other without bias
To end this religious hatred we have to understand who is Jesus what he has taught, who was allah and what Vedas speak of.
Dear friends you have to seek for truth yourself, you have to search for it yourself.In the matter of God and spirituality you have to speak and listen to people who are Brahma Gyanis. In this category I Put Lord Rama, Lord Krishna, Rishi vashistha,Vyas, Swami Niytyananda, Lord swami narayan, Sai baba of Shirdi, Shri Guru, Swami sammarth, Rammanna Maharishi, Jesus Christ who have realized God on the path of Vedas and astanga yoga.

Jesus is to be respected but along with him we shoulrespect all the siddha yogis like Lord Rama, Krishna, Swami nityananda. Jesus belonged to this eternal path unlike the way portrayed by these christian missionaries who are actually devoid of spiritual sadhna and self realisation.

Sami way Allah the formless God is the concept of Vedas. Revered Prophet has the knowledge of vedas as the achaeological evidence are showing.

Please stop hating each other but dont kill anybody on the name of Jesus rama, finally you as a soul only has to pay your deeds in terms of endless suffering in the name of poverty and death and rebirth

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Christians Never Forcibly Convert
by sunny patel on Dec 27, 2007 03:40 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Christians Never Forcibly convert...... Pl get this Truth right...
I know of several Hindus who want to get converted to Christianity- that too without any force.
Then how does VHP make such claims.
All their previous claims have proved to be FALSE

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RE:Christians Never Forcibly Convert
by rajesh on Dec 27, 2007 03:42 PM  Permalink
dude when u show money convert ppl wats it called. when u exploit their poverty and convert ppl wats it called.

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RE:Christians Never Forcibly Convert
by narayan on Dec 27, 2007 03:45 PM  Permalink
HOW MUCH MONEY DID MISSIONARIED GIVE 2 CONVERT U???

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RE:Christians Never Forcibly Convert
by kuchibhotla kalyanachakravarthy on Dec 27, 2007 03:48 PM  Permalink
no need sunny. there are enough naive people out there who believe in anything other than applying one's mind and in seeing through the whole charade of religion. there may a million apologies and excuses after everything is burnt and dusted but the only thing that will remain standing is the relentless pursuit of the illusion that is god and religion


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RE:Christians Never Forcibly Convert
by Albert Adibadla on Dec 27, 2007 03:50 PM  Permalink
SO WHAT. DO YOU BURN CHURCHES FOR THAT?? THIS IS THE SAME LOGIC USED BY TALIBAN AND ISLAMIC TERRORISTS WORLD WIDE..

DO YOU SUPPORT THEM AS WELL? IF YES WHY AND YOUR PARTY NOT JOIN THE WORLD JIHADI MOVEMENT AS A HINDU AFFILATE AND TERRORIZE EVERYONE..

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RE:Christians Never Forcibly Convert
by sreejithg g on Dec 27, 2007 04:01 PM  Permalink
You Christians are converting Hindus by just showing money. Only in India this will happen. Live here peacefully or go to Rome.

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Churches and Priests even Christians are not for Burning!
by D goel on Dec 27, 2007 03:40 PM  Permalink 

Pkl. afternoon, 3,40pm.,Thursday, Dec. 27 ,2007
Whatever the provocation, if as reported some elderly Hindu Priest was killed or assaulted supposedly by tribals connived at by Christian missionaries... Still,saffronite Bajrangis. or other Hindu Activists are deadly wrong in doing the mischief of attacking Prayer Houses , Churches or Christian missionaries.No ,this is barbaric.As the earlier assault on missionary
Graham Stains and his kids was inhuman.
Indian culture ought to govern every body in the subcontinent to the salutary philosophy of Salad -Bowl image of india's multi-religious reality. Panch-sheel and harmony has been perennial message of 5000 yrs. old indian Society.We all must guard against any ungracious intolerance towards our national minorities...This is largely Majority's primary
duty. Let the state take sternest steps to quell this bout of senseless violence against peaceful Christian Churches and their prayer Houses and devotees.D. Goel

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missionaries
by susi soni on Dec 27, 2007 03:39 PM  Permalink 

camoflouged in the agenda sonia/YSR/ajit jogi/ a weak congress and incompetant upa, and haven for converters, hindu organisations are protesting repeatedly to oust the missioners, they can try the muslims to be converted.Billions of $ are waiting in the evangalists agends let it be the pope /bush or G8, the hidden agenda, is to subjugate the non christians.Even christ will shy away from these crusaders, how the folowers of son of lord purshottama, are madly, corrupting the lords followers in name of change the fait. So up the now the missioners feel even god has failed and christ has also failed so to take up the cause are converting with money power only only yes money is playing a great role.

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Why those people were spared?
by Dravid on Dec 27, 2007 03:38 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Why the insiders were spared? They should have been burnt.

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RE:Why those people were spared?
by Sameer on Dec 27, 2007 03:43 PM  Permalink
The smell of burning flesh is not good. People may get sick n puke, thaz y we didnt burn them...Dravidji, next time , we will carry a mask n burn them n send u some well cooked part so that u can satisfy ur appetite for cooked human flesh...u wont feel bad as long as they are not ur family or relatives...

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RE:Why those people were spared?
by cupid on Dec 27, 2007 03:41 PM  Permalink
ha ha ha ..why is that a xtain is inciting hindus?????

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We Hindus don't need the pseudo secularist's preachings.....
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 27, 2007 03:37 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Pseudo secularists pls go and do your preaching to US, West and GCC societies because here in India we have given Minorities more freedom and privileges then majority community. More over India is the only land on this earth which has sheltered all the religious prosecuted for Ages Example: Jews, Parsies, and Tibetans etc. You can never imagine a Minority PM and President in US or any other GCC or Western country, But we have minority PM,CM,and all higher officials, top politicians etc... all because of the tolerant nature of Hinduism.

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RE:We Hindus don't need the pseudo secularist's preachings.....
by cupid on Dec 27, 2007 03:39 PM  Permalink
how come a tamil is speaking like this??? isn't ur CM KN insulted LORD RAM???? .....

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RE:We Hindus don't need the pseudo secularist's preachings.....
by Another Indian on Dec 27, 2007 03:42 PM  Permalink
Just because CM Karuna insulted Hindus doesn't mean that entire TN is behind him. We do have a lot of psuedo sickularists in TN who look for vote bank. Today xtians are 10% of TN population, so it hard to ignore them in vote bank politics. So stop creating divide between Hindus. Hindus are Hindus whether they are in TN, Srilanka, Malaysia or JK.

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RE:We Hindus don't need the pseudo secularist's preachings.....
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 27, 2007 04:00 PM  Permalink
Mr.Cupid If Buddhadeb can come form a land which has given us great Souls such as Swami Vivekananda, Shri. Aravind of Arovil etc, then it's not a big issue in having a Dirty old fox as our CM who can do any thing and say any rubbish to appease minority vote bank.

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RE:We Hindus don't need the pseudo secularist's preachings.....
by rashmi sahu on Dec 27, 2007 03:37 PM  Permalink
As we know Christian missionaries are well funded by The Vatican and other rich Western/European Missionaries so they are cash rich. The techniques used are where people are poor giving financial aid only when they convert to it, giving admission to kids in Christian schools on subsidize basis on conversion, giving jobs only to Christians in Christian run schools and colleges denying it others, telling people that Jesus is the only God and the rest will face Fire and Brimstone if they do not accept him. We are told that Lord Krishna, Lord Rama are all false. Hindus are told that Hell awaits them after death if they do not accept Jesus as their savior. Hungry man has no religion so due to poverty people convert to Christianity. I have seen them following people to there home too for this. I will give an account of first hand experience of a colleague who has studied in a Christian school in Rourkela , during her tenth class she has gone on a welfare camp for helping poor with staff and sisters to a village. All the poor kids came few of them were Hindus too. She was distributing chocolates to all of them then suddenly the sister came and said do not give chocolates to kids who are Hindus and this colleague of mine is a Hindu, she gave toffees to them too in spite of this. There are many more such experiences which I can tell and write which reflects bias. Now this Jesus about whom Christianity revolves is himself a highly realized soul. If you read bible you will understand. H

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RE:RE:We Hindus don't need the pseudo secularist's preachings.....
by rashmi sahu on Dec 27, 2007 03:39 PM  Permalink
Now this Jesus about whom Christianity revolves is himself a highly realized soul. If you read bible you will understand. He (Soul) himself has realized God. A soul depending on karmas can take birth anywhere in the world. Jesus himself has realized God on the basis of Vedas and Yoga. The knowledge of Vedas and self realization is immortal, the soul is liberated for 3600 times the creation, whenever it takes birth it will remember everything and still can perform miracles this is evident in the lives of Rama, Krishna, Jesus, Ramakrishna Paramhansa, Sai Baba of Shirdi etc. Further Jesus had lived in India during his missing years which are not mentioned in Bible, in spite of The Mahabharat war and destruction of Vedic culture India was blessed with the presence of samadhist - God realized yogis. So he came here again to his Guru again learned Vedas and yoga as told by Creator in Vedas (same is with Krishna/Rama etc). The manuscripts indicating this are lifted by Vatican from India by deceit. So how is it possible that a realized Jesus must have taught to discriminate, annihilate and rob people of other faiths in his name? He can not teach that he is the only God as he himself is an atmagyani but Bible is written by people who were not yogis and were bonded by five senses and intellect. Though Jesus never taught but Christian missionaries who are neither atma gyani nor have controlled five perception and senses are still teaching all these hatred on the name of Jesus, and belit

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Wht abt YSR?
by chandra n on Dec 27, 2007 03:35 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Iam Confusion from lot of days abt YSR(Yedugunti sandinti rajasekar reddy).Who follows christianty in home and Hinduism outside home.
YSR is the first CM who given lot of funds to temples for DoopaDeepa Naivedyam.
YSR put a right person in TTD(Karunakar reddy)

But he is not a HIndu in home!

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RE:Wht abt YSR?
by Dheeraj Akula on Dec 27, 2007 03:37 PM  Permalink

YSR is Yedugunti Samuel Rajasekhara Reddy.

Name changed after conversion.


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RE:Wht abt YSR?
by Another Indian on Dec 27, 2007 03:46 PM  Permalink
Karunakar reddy is also converted xtian. He let the missionaries inside Tirumala and Tirupati itself. Because of loud protest by Hindus they have withdrawn their missionaries from Tirupati. Remember it is not out of love for Hinduism he did that, he was compelled withdraw missionaries because of vigilant Hindus.

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Andhra Pradesh
by Dheeraj Akula on Dec 27, 2007 03:35 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


In Andhra Pradesh, especially in coastal districts, you can see several people with bags on their shoulders going around and preaching about the greatness of Jesus Christ and Christianity.

They even move from one district to another. Many times I see them travelling in trains such as Chennai-Hyderabad Express (for example, from Nellore to Ongole) purely on this mission.

For many of them, it is a full time activity.

You can see many men and women doing that.

I wonder how they find so much time and money to do that.

Do they do it on their own expense? Or, are they paid to do it?



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RE:Andhra Pradesh
by Arvind Singh on Dec 27, 2007 03:41 PM  Permalink
Its business for earning two time meals ath the end of the day like selling Vad pav, Garam Chai-Chai, Jesus le lo, Jesus le lo, mera product sab se accha saf karta hai vagarah vagarah, their is networking business too if both your left and right wings sell more jesus if go top on the network chain and get percentage of total sales...ha ha ha

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