Beautiful comparison Shri.Modi is modern day Karmayogi Kamaraj "His simple and austere living of the kind associated with the late Kamaraj of Tamil Nadu, but not seen in the leaders of today?".
We all Hindus must unite under one umbrella irrespective of caste, language, region etc so that in any other part of our mother land we don't face the similar fate of our Kashmiri Sikh and Pandit community.
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by balaord on Dec 24, 2007 08:46 PM Permalink
Ofcourse you are right!!!.Many Hindus want that so called "Killings of Hindus" to have happened. Their lack of religious Identity needs a commn enemy and monster and they are finding it in Muslims
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by balaord on Dec 24, 2007 08:57 PM Permalink
Want to have some idea about islamic civilization?? then read this from hewlect pakcard website itself.A speech given by its ex chairman (wowan) to Business executives hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/speeches/fiorina/minnesota01.html (see the last paragraph ) You can speak with no tact and discretion here in rediff, no will ask you for the proof, but see HP -one of world respected enterprise tal;king about islamic civilization
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by Avinash on Dec 24, 2007 09:07 PM Permalink
balaord, islamic civilization has nothing to do with militant islam. Most of the Islamic scholars were the sufi-saints, ahemedias, etc. Not the kind of Osama Bin Laden!
Btw through other countries had numbering system, the decimal system was unique to India.
The period of Chandra Gupta Maurya is called the "Golden Period" of Indian History and that pre-dates even Christianity. There is no political treatise equivalent to Chanakya's Artha Sasthra anywhere in the world.
Why do the muslims and christians get offended when it is a historical fact that the Indian sub-continent had a civilized life when most of the other continents were still in the stone age? You people also have equal rights for the culture and civilization of India. So don't get offended.
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by balaord on Dec 24, 2007 08:54 PM Permalink
howisthat - I am 100% sure, you are fantasising many things..Speak with proof and dont bluff You have talked about Maths now see the views of An artcile written by Keith devlin, who is the current executive director of standford mathematical society and fellow of american mathematical association and a popular author of great many research books says "Islam kickstarted science" in Guardian newspaper of UK education.guardian.co.uk/higher/sciences/story/0,12243,786006,00.html
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by balaord on Dec 24, 2007 08:59 PM Permalink
howisthat - id number system is the fundamentals for all science..then know this Sumarians had Number system Mayans Had Number system Romans had number system.. Ofcourse Indians too had number system (I am proud that I belong to that country) Arabs acknowldged it and appreciated it and called them Hind nummbers..They were not hate mongers like you
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by Abir Mandal on Dec 24, 2007 08:51 PM Permalink
Ya and Muslims did nothing to deserve this, did they? Why do you forget how they came into this country.. thru rape and plunder. We did not invite them in. Once a barbarian, always a barbarian defines Muslims exactly. And why just Hindus, why dont you explain the Danish hatred of muslims as well as American hatred of Muslims? Seems like everyone hates Muslims, doesnt it? So is the fault in everyone, or perhaps in Muslims itself?
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by jet on Dec 24, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
Dear balaord, how many formulas and how many invensions were invented by ur Arab masters with their kowledge of number system. pls tell me atleast one. The indians were using the number system and the arab traders spread it around the world. For ur western historians and intellectuals, they never accepted any thing from Indian side. Why do u take pride in Arab when u r an indian (If not, forget this)and support them..? Thats why u people are always questioned about ut loyalty to this country. You guys live here but support others. Dogs have better loyalty.
RE:RE:The hindu pride!!
by balaord on Dec 24, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
howisthat?? Would you care reading well respected Economist papaer of UK and its review on Oxford historians books about your contention economist.com/books/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9433846
Excellent article that articulates clearly just why Modi has become what he has - a towering personality with a permanent place in the hearts of the common Hindu Indian. But I disagree with Sri Raman's analysis of the media's role in "demonizing" Modi. The media has unwittingly helped the process of the elevation of Modi's stature. By pouring venom over him day and night for years, the media has shown the Hindus just how anti-Hindutva and anti-Hindu they really are, thus ciontributing significantly to the unification of the Hindu opinion around Modi. You know just how notoriously fickle and disunited Hindu political opinion is. It needed a strong kick below the belt to unite them and the media has (unwittingly) provided just that. Good job, mediajhollas.
It is said that true leaders of men are subjected to a trial by fire (agni-pariksha) and only those who succeed become leaders of stature. Modi was duly subjected to one and he took it on with grace. Modi has survived - in style - the agni-pariksha he was subjected to by vile journalists, viler secularists and ofcourse the anti-Hindu Congress party. His rise will now be unstoppable. Modi and Moditva ki jai!
I wish Mr. Raman had written this article eons ago. Yes Mr. Modi has brought back the pride in being a Hindu rather than cowering to the brute force of Islam or the lure of the lucre of Xtianity. Hinduism is probably the world's oldest surving faith which has withstood the severe trials of brute force. It should not be apologetic to say one is a Hindu- it should be a matter of pride to say so, because it implies the strength of haracter of ones forefathers some of which must have passed on to the present generation, because those worthy ancestors were able to resist the brute force of the state power in medieval Islamic India and stick to their own believes rather than convert just to save heir lives. No wonder Hindus today excel in more fields than do the converts (of their are notable exceptions). It would be better that all present generation specially Muslim and Christian Indians realise that most if not all of their ancestors were forced to convert to a religion either by threat of death or by dangling the carrot of prosperity and now they themselves are in a position to right those monumental wrongs done to their forefathers. If they have an iota of self respect and some mettle in the genes that have been passed on to them over generations, thay will know what to do.
Caste system exists in Islam also. There two borad divisions called Ajlaf and Ashraf and innumerable sects like Shia, Sunni, Ahmedia, etc! Whom are you trying to fool?
Mohammed himself had proclaimed that his tribe (Khoresh) is the superior most tribe on planet earth and enjoined upon all Muslims to visit Kaaba (the moon temple he renovated) to create a perpetual source of income for his tribe! Islam is nothing but Arab imperialism. The Indian and Pakistani Muslims are not considered as equals by the Arabs. You people are better off in our Country. Don't fritter that away by your hate compaign. Nobody is willing to tolerate your belligerance (not only in India but anywhere in the world).
Beautiful comparison Shri.Modi is modern day Karmayogi Kamaraj "His simple and austere living of the kind associated with the late Kamaraj of Tamil Nadu, but not seen in the leaders of today?".
We all Hindus must unite under one umbrella irrespective of caste, language, region etc so that in any other part of our mother land we face the similar fate of our Kashmiri Sikh and Pandit community.
Raman's article has reinforced the ancdotal evidences of our past degeneration. Weak hindus of India (due to psedu-secularists) lost Sikhs, Jains and even Buddhists to some extent from its fold.They were clearly defined as "Hindus" in our basic draft of constitution.However, over the years, psedu-seculars became overpowering in all the respects making hindus as weak as it can be. The resulting effect was felt when some sects like Sikhs wanted to get away from this weakened hindu fold. As a minority, they felt better served and had not to follow the dictums of these new crops of secularists. In fact, such is the case that any nonsensical deed will be acceptable if it comes from a minority but abhored if it is shown by a hindi!!!! With such mindset of our secularists, Modi has given them a reply in victory. A strong hindu is more secular than a weak and scared hindu. Secularism comes out of strength and what we see in India is a pretension of secularism by these psedus who can do anything for money. I appreciate people like Raman writing boldly the essence of truth on regular basis so that pseudos and communists do not poison young minds of hindus for the worst.
