RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 12:58 PM Permalink
Yes there is Criticism going on in Small Scale but it should happen in a Broad level and should be given enough Media Coverage, so that it will reach the Corners of the World... But the Irony is this type of Criticism is not found in any Community in India, then why you are asking only Muslims to do it...
1) After the Massacre by Mr. Modi, no Gujrathi came out in the Street to condemn the act, instead this Gentleman was elected as a CM..
2) No Christian from India has raised Voice against Mr. Bush for making Millions of People homeless and killing innocents in the Middle East...
So my point is it does.nt matter which group you belong to, when there is something wrong we Indians should Unite to Protest against it... Cheers
RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 01:00 PM Permalink
you seem to belong to Bajrang Dal. If there are people of a particularly community (that you are targeting)who are "anti-national", then there is something wrong in their upbringing. We need to focus on it. If you have a hand that has a sore, do you cut it off? You put medicine. Your type of thinking wants to cut the hand off. But what happens after that? have you thought about it. Besides if you keep of thinking the way you think, you yourself become a sore and fester. So, we have to think of a solution here to convert you into a better Indian that will make the country proud. Isn't it?
RE:RE:HAIL MODI
by khan on Dec 24, 2007 01:03 PM Permalink
Dude u have elected a murderer and saying shame on muslims shame on u and ur education. U don%u2019t have any moral right to blame muslims bcoz u have shown ur true identity by voting a terrorist to power.
RE:HAIL MODI
by ajay on Dec 24, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
My Dear Khan and Ismail..
You are not talking sense..Why do yu think we have so many groups like Bajrang dal and all..This is India..Majority here are Hindus..All these years congress was ruling the nation..They never did anything good for Hindus..They just used Muslims for their votebanks..Muslims never understood this..They still dont uinderstand it..If you can have groups like..Jaish-e-muh,al-queda,lask-e-toiba..Why cant we have one group to same the dignity of hindutva..
RE:HAIL MODI
by ajay on Dec 24, 2007 12:51 PM Permalink
What i meant was..Its better to believe in enemy (BJP)than any other pseudo mock party like CONGRESS
RE:RE:HAIL MODI
by ajay on Dec 24, 2007 12:55 PM Permalink
NOTHING AGAINST MUSLIMS..But yes you will feel more safe under the covers of Modi..As he doesnt play double game like congress..
RE:RE:HAIL MODI
by vivek jain on Dec 24, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
What happened at Godhra was unfortunate.Muslims had lit the fire so it was obvious that they burn in that.Now seeing Gujarat you cannot say Modi is for the killing of muslims.He doesn't visit dargah because he doesn't want to.Now if you say that by visiting the Dargah he is supporting muslims then you're mistaken.You feel Congress is in your favour...Think again.
RE:HAIL MODI
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
one will be suprised in a DEmocratic country like India, there are More Hatred Preaching Centers called RSS SHAKAS & Bajrang Dal Centers, where the Art of Spewing Venom and Terrorizing the Weak are Trained on a Daily basis... These Centers Out number the Number of Madrassas ..... So First u need to clean your Home and then comment on Others... Since RSS/ Bajrang Dal are not representatives of True Hindusim, I cannot defame Hinduism... I am not generalizing and expect the same from you guys to stop generalizing all the Madrassas as Terrorist Breeding Grounds... The Truth is there are more Hatred Breeding Centers in India... This is the TRUTH
RE:RE:RE:HAIL MODI
by khan on Dec 24, 2007 01:11 PM Permalink
Dude u have elected a murderer and saying shame on muslims shame on u and ur education. U don%u2019t have any moral right to blame muslims bcoz u have shown ur true identity by voting a terrorist to power.
RE:HAIL MODI
by Syed Zabi on Dec 24, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
Chal haat... Maut dina Allah k haath mein hai... Agar o kisi kafi se katal howatu Shahid hojayeinaga.. Aur kafiroun tum Allah se daro
RE:RE:HAIL MODI
by ajay on Dec 24, 2007 01:10 PM Permalink
Ja pakistan mein..Allah nahi..Osama tujhe maut dega..Agar osama nahi toh Bush dedega..hahaha..
RE:RE:RE:HAIL MODI
by ajay on Dec 24, 2007 01:11 PM Permalink
Again I am ASKING..Can any one of you say that I AM AN INDIAN FIRST THEN A MUSLIM..I will stop the chain right here
RE:HAIL MODI
by Syed Zabi on Dec 24, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
TO Ajay I have lot of hindu friends, but they are respect me & Islam. Just think about it..
RE:HAIL MODI
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
Ajay, are you a Real Hindu. if yes, please understand the real hinduism. Hinduism believes God is within humans, so respect each and every human being, irrespective of his region, religion, caste. Humans can be differentiated because of his action. karma.
If you belong to other religion, please dont use a hindu name to make hindus and muslims fight with each other.
RE:HAIL MODI
by khan on Dec 24, 2007 12:56 PM Permalink
Dude u have elected a murderer and saying shame on muslims shame on u and ur education. U don%u2019t have any moral right to blame muslims bcoz u have shown ur true identity by voting a terrorist to power.
RE:HAIL MODI
by Manish shah on Dec 24, 2007 02:08 PM Permalink
Dear Mr.Khan Just Come out of the hypocricy. How can you say he is a murderer? He has just kept anti-hindu people in check & he has just done that. He does not follow the footsteps of Gandhi otherwise Gujrat would have been divided furthur into separate state for Muslims. Unlike Congress he knows how to protect the dignity of Hindu people. He has emerged as a winner. Can you gurantee that not a single muslim must have voted him. Don't mug up Qurans & blindly follow the rules & regulations given by ulemas..Understand the meaning & apply it in real terms. Just lift yourself above the Quaran.. This is what every muslim is required to do.
RE:HAIL MODI
by ravireddy on Dec 24, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
are yaar allah ke kasam khake bolo, did any HINDU put a bomb in a masjid(hyd-12 dead), did any HINDU put a bomb in the parliament, did any HINDU put a bomb in akshardam, did any HINDU put a bomb in bombay trains (case pending-courtesy congress), did any HINDU put a bomb in hyderabad blasts where innocent people died even the muslims, did anu HINDIU put a bomb in uttarpradesh blasts and more over did any HINDU put a bomb in the very recent blast in pakistan's masjid ,where 54 innocent muslims were killed that too on a festival day like bakrid ,a good treat for allah in the name of jihad, i am sorry to say this, MY DEAR FRIEND ALL THESE BLASTS WERE DONE BY MUSLIM TERRORISTS AND NOT MUSLIMS CONFUSED???? A true son of allah will never kill himself to kill others,but fight till his death win or loose A true fighter in the name of allah will invite the enemy to fight and not kill some body by(only impotents do it and now dont say that it is a daring act) putting some shit like rdx in his body to blow up innocents, and you are talking crimes against civilians islam ek accha insan ke liye hai do you people know how many muslims around the world are suffering for such acts done by these islamic terrorists,even good muslims are seen with doubts,
RE:RE:HAIL MODI
by ravireddy on Dec 24, 2007 01:07 PM Permalink
people like you and many muslim leaders in india and world over should try to convince your mullaas and preachers of quran to first try love and then hatred love will succeed and hatred will die without love shajjahan would have never built TAJ MAHAL a monument of which INDIA is proud of.and hindus are proud of narendra modi who has kept terrorists on their toes
RE:HAIL MODI
by ajay on Dec 24, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
Shame on you..Dude..First answer me then talk..tell me ..whether you are a muslim first or an indian..
This article is misleading, its their own doing that the Muslims in India have been sidelined. Many prefer to send their kids to Madrassa then a proper school, many listen to the religious fanatics who preach them hatred, many are afraid of the hardliners and violent ones amongst them.
Its natural now if you see this happening but I have personally not seen ANY school rejecting any kid just because he/she is Muslim.
I thin this article is biased and foreign funded, if its true get the stats and file an RTI application and talk to Modi about this and see what he can do whats the point in crying.
Even we the common citizens deal with corruption every single day we dont blame the religion/caste of that authority as a cause factor do we ?
Get out of that religious ghetto and you will be free, its only you who can set yourself free.
RE:Muslims are sidelined by their own doing
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 12:55 PM Permalink
I agree with u but not fully. U know even Togadia is a Doctor by profession. But he talks & acts like a Radical.. & about Fanatics spreading hatred.. These Rediff Message board itself is the Proof who is Intolerant.. U will hardly find a Muslim Abusing Any faith. But u will find lot of messages against islam..
RE:Muslims are sidelined by their own doing
by Sincere Citizen on Dec 24, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
Rediff message board only attracts English speaking and computer literate crowd. Problem is many of the religious fanatics are neither.
You see hate messages leave them you will see equal number of sane voices if you start arguing the hate messages will get stronger.
You need to realize that problem lies in peoples minds no single faith is free of flaw and neither is any politician.
RE:NARENDRA MODI SHOULD BE CHIEF MINISTER OF KASHMIR. SETTLE HINDUS IN KASHMIR. MAKE IT 90% HINDU FOR PEACE
by Abineet Kumar on Dec 24, 2007 12:52 PM Permalink
My dear dont worry if hindu samaj doesnt come out with more narendra modis soon,if you are a hindu you will be out of your home you will not be allowed to live peacefully in your home as musilms did in kashmir t hindus. Dont think kashmir is in some other country. it is in INDIA. to ay kashmir and tomarrow your state when muslim will be majority in your state. why 90% there should be 100% hindus in Kahsmir.
haz/amarnath yatra subsidy is removed or for the matter of fact all priveleges granted on religious ground be removed and paid to all farmers(hindu,muslim,sikh,christain etc.) on the verge of commiting suicide. will that be communal? isnt such activity formenting commmunalism?
My friend whether you are Hindu , Muslim or any one else, I wish good for you all. But I have one advice, try to do some things positive for the state and country, be sure good will come back for you. Especially Muslim brothers can make huge contribution by alinating and exposing the terrirosts who are targeting innicents madly.
When muslim become majority in India. the Hindus will not be allowed to worship in temples they will not have any rights as it currently happend in malyasia and looking at the condition of t hindus in muslim countries.
Hindus wake up now. Modi is absolutly correct in sidelining muslims. Becouse muslims and islam are cultural invasion from arabs over INDIA. Hindus If you want to keep your culture alive good things of hinduism alive wake up before musilms become majority in INDIA. Stop muslim population from incrasing . and sharia law implimented on you hindus.
In true sense I feel bad about them and want to see them happy. They are not anti-national, this is 100% correct but they have become maligned due to some rigidities potrayed by their religious and communal leaders, some guidelines and instructions at large which makes other feel that muslims follow diferent directives than rest of Indians. Some immature and irresponsible people conducting foolishly over some sensitive topics call disgrace for muslims ... this is exactly the point where the so called pseudosecualrs waiting for the vote bank in muslims hit the hammer! They exploit their certain factors emotionally, make them feel alienated and get the vote, the same secualr leaders make them feel unprotected first just like a mawali does for hafta collection. Muslims need to rise and behave a bit mature. They must get involved in mixing with others, avoid iftikhar parties given by politicians and vote for only thsoe who work of nation/state/people. I know when they go to Arab or gulf this all religious boundary is vanished and there they are treated worst like people coming from poor country..all preaching of islam from core vanishes ..they too know that how much beautiful India is in actual and they too want to live here peacefully forever as much as any other community does here ... but there solution is really from within. That will be the great day when Muslims bring BJP in power openly ...and lets see what happens to the politics of vote bank and religion!