RE:aatank ka doosra naam ISLAM
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
Hindu religion is a Tolerant one. Dont make nuisance using Hinduism by criticising other religions.
RE:aatank ka doosra naam ISLAM
by Fantastic on Dec 22, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
My dear friend,just go back.Hindu never superimpose their thaughts.You need to have brain for logic. But for islamic , abusing other religion or attacking other faiths in order to survive.
RE:aatank ka doosra naam ISLAM
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:51 PM Permalink
Rediff forum itself is the prooof who is abusing. U will rarely find a muslim abusing other's faith.. but u will find lot of fanatics abusing islam & show their hatred towards muslims.. tell me who are intolerant?
RE:aatank ka doosra naam ISLAM
by Fantastic on Dec 22, 2007 12:55 PM Permalink
Zorastrian not survived in Iran,Zorastrian survived in India. Hindus wiped out in Bangladesh or Pakistan. What kind of proof of tolerance you need to have. How much muslim are tolerant you know much better than me. This is an Islamic way of cheating.
I am trying to convey you muslims,how dr.liar has cheated you.
RE:RE:aatank ka doosra naam ISLAM
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:57 PM Permalink
See all my messages.U can see very rarely i have said anything against Anyone's faith as i never preaches & promotes hatred for any other's faith. I have utmost Respect for all the faith.. Whatever my opinions i m expressing in these forums but i do not represent any group Or Communities. If someone do not agrees with me,they can report Abuse..
RE:RE:aatank ka doosra naam ISLAM
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:59 PM Permalink
what about millions of Hindus killed in Muslims countries such as Dubai,bahrain,malaysia , qatar and saudi arabia? you know what , the VHP and RSS sickos wont say this actually, because you can immediatly verify this. but they will scream Hindus are killed in Pak/Ban. they are massacred during 1035 AD and so on.. They will tell you a "FACT" as long as it is not verificable
RE:aatank ka doosra naam ISLAM
by Sami on Dec 22, 2007 12:41 PM Permalink
US Defence Secretary Robert Gates has warned that the US military is in danger of running out of money for its operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
RE:RE:aatank ka doosra naam ISLAM
by Fantastic on Dec 22, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
>>Sami You need to read the correct translation of Veda to understand the underlying meaning of Shruti. If you read any Xian version or Muslim Version of Veda,then you are fool enough to be gullible.
Donot stop or hesitate the other faith's book. If you are Indian then i can only say this is your ancester has written for you.This is Yours Heritage. I do not think you require to Mulla permission to read.
RE:aatank ka doosra naam ISLAM
by tariq qazi on Dec 22, 2007 01:00 PM Permalink
my self tarique by professen i am engineer, recently i have faced very tramatic situation... some sick hindu has given letter to police and PM and Mayawati... it was stated in the letter that "i am going to murdered them and going to attack parliament"
beleive me i am true indian...and love my country and ready to give up everything for the country.... several anti crime agencies softly has interogated me and with my family.... but they didnt find any thing wrong with me and my famiely since my ensistors..... this is kind of the trend few sick, incompetent, impotent, impotantial hindus playing game in the name of muslim
RE:RE:RE:aatank ka doosra naam ISLAM
by Sami on Dec 22, 2007 02:09 PM Permalink
Fantastic. i wanted to know from you what is your meanings only. you tell me the correct translation. you ask me about shruti. i tell what i know. you correct me if i am wrong. Sharuti is the devine sound recording. the cosmic sound waves in which VEDHAS come to world. tell me what is your view of shruti. now do the vedhas in shruti talk about hinduism? do vedhas talk about god with four hands 6 heads and with weaponx? do vedha tell you to pray air water fire? if so where?
The discussion board has been communalised. Rationality has taken a back seat. All sorts of messages are being posted to malign one or the community.
I find that some Hindu brothers(Read RSS Guys) have been led to believe that by hating muslims or non Hindus they will become a better Hindu. Read your religious scriptures or listen to the discourses on TV. Hindu religion does not subscribe hate.. Those indulging in such acts are committing crime against humanity and Parmeshwar will not spare you from being punished.
Listen to the voice of your religion and religious guru and saints and you will be a good person.
If you will listen to the version of Hindu religion doctored by politicians or religious leaders having political ambitions you will fall in the trap and will become a misguided Hindu or muslim.
Be a good Hindu, a good muslim and good humanbeing and become a torch bearer of peace and not hatred.
RE:Peace Not Hatred!!
by biswajit das on Dec 22, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
Good.Now we must say jai human being.We are all part of mahan god . THIS GOD is called ISWAR , Allah .We are all brother or sister .
RE:Peace Not Hatred!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:42 PM Permalink
Dudes like you are the reason why the most deadly VIRUS "HATE" is being spread around. Take a chill pill and have a healthy argument
RE:Peace Not Hatred!!
by RAJ on Dec 22, 2007 12:38 PM Permalink
Dear Ismail, If we start a chain of messages as written by you and provoke our friends who are spitting venom on each other, India will become a glorious country. Let everyone enjoy the nectar of life Allah/God has given us.We males do not undergo the labour pain and thus think life very cheap.Our mother is Mother Earth and Mother India. I appeal to all Hindus and Muslim friends who are on line here to shed the hatred and please give a try to peace only for one day and then review on monday. Come On India ,lets pledge to make at least one person happy from today , every day.Rgds Rajesh
RE:Cut the banana by half.
by prakash on Dec 22, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
A little correction please. The banana should be cut by more than half..... say 3/4th.
RE:Cut the banana by half.
by piyush on Dec 22, 2007 01:16 PM Permalink
hahahaha....u bet man this is the way...things r gonna b in control....They all r Pak a.ss leaker's....
My dear friends, Mankind exist for the last thousands of years before Hindu , muslim ,christian ,sikh,buddism etc. came to this earth.If we go to space and look towards earth ,it is one with a surviving human population. Dear brothers ,please do not spread hatred like politicians in the name of of beliefs ( which neither muslim nor Hindus have seen or met personally).Love the lives and enjoy.There is no truth of life after death and hence no religion or Godor Allah can ensure any promise to us as an individual. I understand that various wars have been fought in the past but believe you me in the old(history) days Man always wanted more people to work for him as slaves ,more women in his harrem , more land and more cattle.If we still believe in those gods / messiahs who themselves have done nothing but left we pheasants to fight with each other, they are just figures in our mind and not to scrifice our lives. All children are small plants of next generation , whether Hindu or Muslim .Then how come when they grow into adult ,they become religious fanatics. Brothers , join together and fight poverty and global warming and leave a better world for our next generation.. Rgds ...Rajesh
RE:Onlu Mankind Is Supreme
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:38 PM Permalink
But in India,Politicians are playing these communal games to gain some cheap votes..
RE:Onlu Mankind Is Supreme
by prakash on Dec 22, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
Sorry, Muslim generation have no long future. They have already passed 1400 years. Now they are living in borrowed time. That is why they don't care about world peace or better future....
RE:Onlu Mankind Is Supreme
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
Your Hatred shows.. I am not here to attack any faith as i have utmost respect for all the faith.. Good u gave me evidence that RSS is a Hate Machine.. you cant use logic for a healthy debate, hence you are resorting to 3rd rate tactics. This is what RSS taught you ..
RE:Onlu Mankind Is Supreme
by tariq qazi on Dec 22, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
my self tarique by professen i am engineer, recently i have faced very tramatic situation... some sick hindu has given letter to police and PM and Mayawati... it was stated in the letter that "i am going to murdered them and going to attack parliament"
beleive me i am true indian...and love my country and ready to give up everything for the country.... several anti crime agencies softly has interogated me and with my family.... but they didnt find any thing wrong with me and my famiely since my ensistors..... this is kind of the trend few sick, incompetent, impotent, impotantial hindus playing game in the name of muslim
RE:Onlu Mankind Is Supreme
by Sami on Dec 22, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
US Defence Secretary Robert Gates has warned that the US military is in danger of running out of money for its operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
RE:Onlu Mankind Is Supreme
by RAJ on Dec 22, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
Brother, Mother nature decides on each and every event.Even our lords and Kings( Gods also) , Akbars and Gandhis could not write their destiny. They all had to go. Thus we should not spread hatred like this.Believe you me I am not Gandhi not wants to spread Gandhigiri but want you all to think carefully on these aspects. Rgds
I appreciate your effort to convince people not to be anti-Islam. But how much you can do?
Today If rediff readers understand something about Islam, then tommorow they will find horrible killing of innocents by muslims in media. Again the rediff readers will develope anti-Islam feelings.
If there are five people like you in Islam, then there are thousand in Islam who want to kill non-muslims. The ratio is very poor.
So better convince your own muslim brothers about peace.
RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:25 PM Permalink
the fundamental flaw in your prejudiced reading of everything Islam will not make you say anything different. Your stereotyped vision of Islam, as you so conveniently choose to overplay, is only representative of the larger Hindu radical viewpoint. I only have sympathies for your brains that appears to be incapable of informed thinking. But if you do want to debate it, you need to first get off your moral pedestal and speaking down
RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by sriram sriram on Dec 22, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
Ismail why do you think the rest of the world is wrong.?? This is an important matter for interospection for every Muslim. Their religioius extremisim is blinding them despite their education.
RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by Topno on Dec 22, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
It seems you left the group of five and joined hand with those thousands of Jehadis.
RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by frankopenion on Dec 22, 2007 01:11 PM Permalink
To Topno: Now you are reading Ismail correctly. However you try to convince them abt their wrong deeds, they just refuse to understand. I read Ismails postings here. Initially I thought he is a muslim with rational ideology having tolerance towards other religion. But no, he is from the same pack of jehadis. Just ignore him. They dont respect humanity.
RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:33 PM Permalink
So when you pick up weapons it is self defense and if Muslims do it, than they are Jihadist? Can you explain this logic here. It is a known fact that Islam preaches love but it does apply certain practicality to its ideology. Read more about Islam and I am sure you would find nothing but love, affection and peace. It gives you a complete understanding of a human mind and desires. Without that you can speak nothing about Islam or Muslims with any quantifiable authority.
RE:RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:47 PM Permalink
Islam is not property of Muslims. It is for every mankind. Just take Holy Quraan and then u will know the meaning of Islam and Jihad. Most of the writers here does not know any thing about islam but they are follwer of Power like America. History speaks by itself. Check the facts from 1932 till today. Howmany innocent people have been killed by superpower. Those who raise their voice are labled as terrorist which is accepted by innocent people.
RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:26 PM Permalink
if u want to target the whole muslim community for acts of a few then ur intelligence is questionable. Yes I agree some muslims did bomb blasts and I condemn such acts bcoz in such blasts only innocents are killed. . My only request you is to not blindly hate muslims, from independence till date can u tell how many hindus got killed due to bomb blasts. Werent we all living peacefully till Babri Masjid got demolished. Hindus are very peace loving people but a few communal parties are playing games to divide people and rule which will not augur well for India. High time people realize that peaceful co-existence is the only way ahead
RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by Kapil Dev on Dec 22, 2007 12:34 PM Permalink
I m happy u hv made this statement. let me tell u Also RSS donot represents Hindus. Had it been representing the Hindus it would have in power in india. It is because most hindus do not enodorse what RSS VHP and self styled hindus protectors say. But Kind of hate being on in the name of ISLAM needs a response from Muslims. It is high they abandon fanatic element within islam With regards
RE:RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by sriram sriram on Dec 22, 2007 12:31 PM Permalink
Pseudo secularists who act as if they are pampering the Muslims are responsible for the resurgance of Communal Hindu parties.
what we face today is a culmination of utter callousness towards Majorities sentiments. Muslims in India have far greater freedom than even in Islamic states but act as if they are doing a favor to India. There MAY be exceptions, but the majority silently accept and blindly follow their religious leaders.
RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:37 PM Permalink
You have to ask the Right Sources..... If I ask Karunanidhi about your god Rama, he will tell that rama is a Theif.... Do you want me to take his words... If I am a sensible Person, I should refer Hindu expert like Vivekananda and not some Karunannidhi,,,,
Similarly if you want to know about Islam, refer the Right Sources... go to websites like Islamic Research Foundation, Discover Islam, etc etc... Dont get False Info from Ali Sinai, Togadia or Arun Shourie... They all have their corrupted Islamic Scriptures ... to Misguide you...
RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by sriram sriram on Dec 22, 2007 12:41 PM Permalink
Tell me my friend...why NO MUSLIM protests against Jihad. When Karunanidhi says something wrong about religion we protest. If Muslim leaders are indeed honest they must prove it by vociferous opposition to Islmaic terrorism.
When they do that i'm happy to join the protest against Danish Cartoons....the sad realitty is ALL of them accept it in the name of Islam
RE:RE:To Ismail Sayyed...
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 12:48 PM Permalink
Jihad is not to start killing whoever non-muslim coming your way. When your existence is in danger raise the sword. How many non-muslims are getting killed in saudi, dubai, sharjah.
2 HuJI men are held next what .. are they going to be rewarded or will be given some pension / help / reservation / quota to come to Main stream line..
RE:2 HuJI men -- next what..
by ashwani mehta on Dec 22, 2007 12:25 PM Permalink
they will be rewarded with promotions , their children will get a special quota admission and the family members will also get some pension. there is chance that they might also become politicians .
RE:INDIA IS PLANNING A MANNED MISSION TO THE MOON
by prakash on Dec 22, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
We must use all cought terrorist as experimental astronouts, one by one, till our experiments with rockets are satisfactory.
Another false implication, infact there were reports that these court blasts happned to stop Mayawati from coming to Mumbai for a rally , there is a valid reason to suspect the Hindu terrorist parties like Shiv Sena,RSS etc who are taking advantage of the Anti-Islamism created by the HIndutva media in India becuase they felt insecure becuase of Mayawati coming to Mumbai
RE:Another false Implication
by biswajit das on Dec 22, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
Please change your name .Why you fear .We are human .Are posses weak mentality then why you use wrong name .Brahmin is not so easy name .At first you must do meditation then use brahmin otherwise not .
