One of my american collegue asked me, do you know hindi? I said yes. He asked me why doesnt all of you indians know hindi, which she was told is a national language of India. She said that she was surprised that one of her collegue(a tamil) told her that ENGLISH is the national language in India. I love my country and I dont want people to laugh on what my fellow tamilian said. I told her that in India, we believe in tolerance. We do not force people to speak one language, or to follow one religion. Thats the reason why India is binded together depite several cultures and religions. I dont mind you tamilians dont speak or learn hindi, but atleast dont claim that Hindi is NOT the national language and its English. atleast 70% people of India speak that language. Tamil is spoken by probably 10%. Even English speaking people are less. Wherever I went, Punjab, Gujrat, UP, Bihar, Maharashtra, KERALA, Andhra, WB, Rajasthan and the list goes on, I get Hindi speaking people, except one state TN.
RE:A request to every non hindi speaking Tamil
by Raghupathy on Dec 18, 2007 11:00 PM Permalink
This is not correct. You will not be able to survice with Hindi in West Bengal, Punjab, Gujarath, Maharashtra,Karnataka (except probably for B'lore). Every body has got their own language. So Hindi cannot be a national language. Hence we have 3 language formula
RE:A request to every non hindi speaking Tamil
by ramaniv on Dec 18, 2007 09:26 PM Permalink
@ True Indian: Your first half of the messages prides on India being tolerant and a mixture of varied cultures and languages, but the second para laments on not finding hindi speakers in Tamilnadu. I am not sure which school of thought you belong to but since the tone of your message is mild, I thought I should respond.
Fact: India has something called official languages but nothing called a national language, it is simply not there in our constitution. Hindi, Bengali, Tamil, Telugu... are some of the languages that are considered official by the Indian government. So if talking in Tamil is unconstitutional or Un-Indian as some of the mad-men in this forum term it, please get an amendment made and get it implemented in all the states across India to talk in Hindi. I am sure you will have a fun time getting it implemented :-).
Also if you think you can get by with Hindi in Kerala or Andhra, I am not sure about your travels, maybe you are not as well travelled as you may think because you sure as hell cannot get by with Hindi in WB or Kerala or Karnataka. I would invite you to try in the Eastern states as well, Sikkim, Assam etc. Good luck on those :-).
Tamils are very very proud of their language and they should be. It is the only surviving Indian language that is comparable to Sanskrit, both in age and in literature and this is a hard-cold fact and people need to get over their hang-ups. The Indian government honours only two classical languages, Sanskrit and Tamil a
RE:A request to every non hindi speaking Tamil
by True Indian on Dec 18, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
Ignore India King who is a 'Pottystani' trying to spread hatred in Indians
RE:karunanidhi is a gay azzhole who likes iron rods in his a*ss like most tamil baboons
by tamilan on Dec 18, 2007 08:14 PM Permalink
Your message shows how jealous you are. You cannot provoke any hatred here as you people alawys did in your states. ..coz we are well educated.
RE:karunanidhi is a gay azzhole who likes iron rods in his a*ss like most tamil baboons
by tamilan on Dec 18, 2007 08:22 PM Permalink
Please Rjesh don't. We cannot bite a mad dog just because we are bitten by it.
RE:karunanidhi is a gay azzhole who likes iron rods in his a*ss like most tamil baboons
by rajesh on Dec 18, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
ok tamilian dude i will take back my words.
How come?LTTE cant save Tamils in malaysia, how can Tamils support LTTE?karuna is a cray old fellow-He loves the LTTE person and wrote a poem in his tribute-It just love pure gay love by karuna.
If the first sign of trouble to the Indian nation comes, my friends, be sure it will be from Tamil Nadu. They refuse to acknowledge that Hindi is the national language (BTW, I am a South Indian and yet I am proud of Hindi. I live in a southern state where linguistic chauvinists are trying hard to copy Tamil politicians and trying to implement the state language on others, even local lingos existing since centuries), they think they are more smarter than other Indians and they tend to disrespect peoples of all faiths (of course, it is easier to attack mild Hindus rather than violent Muslims).
RE:Tamil politicians are anti-India
by tamilan on Dec 18, 2007 07:58 PM Permalink
Hindi is spoken as mother tongue only in five states. Rest of the states have their own language. Why should we learn hindi? In fact I am not against any language. Knowing more languages is good for anybody. But, why you feel if we don't learn hindi, we are against hindus or against interest of the nation? Why don't you learn Tamil? We are ready learn any language when we need to learn. Alrady you people tried to divide this nation in the name of religion. But it didn't work out here. Now, you try to divide this nation in the name of language.
RE:Tamil politicians are anti-India
by tamilan on Dec 18, 2007 08:18 PM Permalink
@India King Your message doesn't deserve any reply. It just shows you ugly mind
While everyone fully agree with the statement of Madam Jayalalitha, the AIADMK supremo, one point has to be clarified by her. She was ruling TAMIL NADU during 2001-2006 and till 2004 the NDA headed by Shri Vajpayee was ruling at Centre. Why did the then Chief Minister of Tamilnadu, Selvi Jayalalitha did not take up the issue of executing the death penalty to the Rajiv assasins. She should explain this to the nation, instead accusing others of supporting LTTE. First she should break her alliance with heer CLOSE ALLY Mr. VAIKO, before accusing others.
RE:LTTE & JAYALALITHA
by tamilan on Dec 18, 2007 06:56 PM Permalink
Still there is a considerable number of LTTE sympathisers are in TN. No political party dare to touch the issue. But, they would take issue in their hands while sitting in oppostion.
RE:LTTE & JAYALALITHA
by rajesh on Dec 18, 2007 06:57 PM Permalink
thirumavalavan was openly supporting it in a meeting daring govt to arrest him. but nothing will happen
RE:LTTE & JAYALALITHA
by tamilan on Dec 18, 2007 07:12 PM Permalink
To understand the issue you should know geograbhy, demography and economy of Tmailnadu. 20 years back almost all the villages in south tamilnad having NRI families whose earning member was working in Srilanka. During the riot these people's properties were looted and most of them returned back empty handed. The story of looting, raping and other sorts of inhuman acts were told by them. LTTE was considered as a saviour of Tamils. The media, politicians and even Indian Govt took a stand of supporting LTTE and even taining camps are set up here in our country. After Rajive's assasnation the trend was changed but not completely. This is the reason you can see LTTE sympathisers everywhere in TN. So, we cannot blame anybody.
RE:LTTE & JAYALALITHA
by Ritu Singh on Dec 18, 2007 07:25 PM Permalink
Dear tamilian....
There is no need to understand any sort of geography, demography or economy.... The reason is that if you go to a foreign country to earn your bread and butter... And then blame them for kicking you out... it would be ridiculous...
There is a very popular saying "If you want to live in my home, live by what I say"... Here the classic example is that of a tenant asking the landlord to adjust according to the tenants demand...!!!!
Tamilians went to Sri Lanka.... Sri Lanka did not call the Tamilians to their country... The problem with Tamilians is that they dont have an identity as an Indian because of such closed thinking mentality....
Lastly, despite the worst possible humiliation and genocides by British, Gandhi had the courage and determination to win against them on the basis of "Non-Violence".... LTTE is a terrorist outfit and no justification can change that.... An outfit that brainwashes women and children to turn into human suicide bombers can never be deemed fit to represent civilised people....
So please dont try convincing us... On the issue of support to LTTE, Tamilians will find that they are totally alone... even in India.... LTTE is a pest and should be squashed mercilessly.
RE:LTTE & JAYALALITHA
by Jackson on Dec 18, 2007 07:38 PM Permalink
Stop talking rubbish .. Sri Lanka is part of the Tamil empire.. The Jaffna Kingdom, Pandya and CHola kingdoms are all of Tamil rulers..
Tamils dont need anyboyd's permission to seek self-rule there.
RE:LTTE & JAYALALITHA
by tamilan on Dec 18, 2007 07:43 PM Permalink
Dear Ritu Singh, I never supported LTTE which is a terrorist organisation. My posting was to explain why so many sympathisers of LTTE in Tn. Moreover, Tmails in Srilanka has been living there for more than 1000 years. They are Srilankan nationals but with Indian origin. The Srilankan Govt refuse to recognise them with equal rights. This is reason behind communal unrest in Srilnaka. We are in main stream of national politics. Nobody can isolate us. In fact we are the king makers. Pl do remember it.
RE:LTTE & JAYALALITHA
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Dec 19, 2007 05:32 AM Permalink
dear Ritu Singh learn your history first. The native Tamilians have been in Sri Lanka for thousands of years, they may have absorbed Chola and Pandyan Tamilo ivaders and immigratns in to their community and so did the Sinhalas. The Tamils haveb been ruling ther territories as seperate kingdoms and chiefdoms. And the Sinhalese theirs. ( althoug many of these so called Sinhala and Tamil kings were actually Tamil). It was teh British woh united the Tamil and Sinhala parts of Sri Lanka in to one country in 1833 and caused the problem. The SInhalas race origin also started when Prakrit speaking migransts from North Indian came to Sri Lanka around 2500 years ago. These Immigratns did not bring their woman folk, do therefore they took local andPandyan Tamil women as their wives. They also intermingled with the local Veddhas, Yakkas and Nagas. This and the intrdoduction of Buddhism changed the language from Tamil to the newly evloving language which was a mixture of Pali/Tamil and Sanskrit. Modern Sinhala has around 35 to 40% Tamil root words and its sentence and grammatical structure is Tamil. The population in the North and East of Sri Lanka remained Hindu so they reamined Tamil too. Infact the ancesntors of around 50% of the present day Sinhalas only migrated around 600 to 100 years ago form southern Tamil Nadu /Kerala( when Kerala was Tamil speaking) . So get you r fact coorect beofore commenting yuo biased north Indian. The Eealm Tamils are as native as the Sinhalas.
RE:LTTE & JAYALALITHA
by Vijai on Dec 18, 2007 07:45 PM Permalink
We are not staying in your house, we are staying in our own hose.. change your language.
RE:LTTE & JAYALALITHA
by Konga on Dec 18, 2007 07:24 PM Permalink
well....but now it is declared by indian government as a terrorist organisation. being in india, you need to honour our government policies,else simply go out of this country. MK should go to Lanka and do whatever he wants.
RE:LTTE & JAYALALITHA
by rajesh on Dec 18, 2007 06:52 PM Permalink
dude Gopi anything is possible in politics. there is one popular saying by our great goundamani " arasiyala ithala satharnam appa"
RE:LTTE & JAYALALITHA
by Anantha Kumar Rajamani on Dec 18, 2007 07:23 PM Permalink
Can anyone give ONE example - where a politician demonstrated accountability?? Yeh sub log - gandhi naali ke keede hain and the most unfortunate part is that: these ppl. r the rulers and decision-makers!!! When the heat turns on these accusers, they will use only one simple phrase, "The media misquoted me" and the matter will go into cold storage!!!
RE:India is in second place in population,work hard to get first place
by rajesh on Dec 18, 2007 06:49 PM Permalink
hahaha good one dude. i agree.i will defineltly help india in this