I don't know why so much hatred is being exchanged in rediff forums. Any discussion on any topic, it finally ends up in division across north-south, language, race, colour and what not. I could clearly see India as a country has failed in making its people understand and appreciate different cultures, their uniqueness and essentially what we all boast of India, 'Unity in Diversity'. And the leaders have not helped, in fact they've kindled this divisive fire to warm themselves up. They keep reminding people about their divisions lest people forget them!!! We defnitely need a curriculum or even a crash course of 'Understanding India'. After reading such exchanges, I feel we don't have any right to talk about racial discrimnation by the western countries.
RE:Understanding 'Unity in Diversity'
by guru prasad on Dec 19, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
Yes Mr.Anand, you are right, when i read the discussion board completely, 75% of it are the communal and Language issues and the topic about the given issue is deviated.
RE:Understanding 'Unity in Diversity'
by vivek murthi on Dec 20, 2007 12:03 AM Permalink
I write this keeping in mind that I may be blocked permanently from posting my views in the rediff forums. After repeated letters to the editor, I have not seen any improvement in the language and attitude of readers in these message boards. Rediff.com does not seem to be doing enough to avoid such hatred and communal views being spread other than the occasional blocking of certain messages. The message board is providing a platform for such racial, communal, regional abuses. I think we can file a case against rediff for providing such a platform. Not being able to control their own forums is the same as encouraging such views. There must be a place in our judicial system for such offenders. We should take that road if need be. I hope there are still some decent readers around who agree with me on this
RE:Understanding 'Unity in Diversity'
by Guruprasad Nagarajan on Dec 21, 2007 07:47 AM Permalink
Vivek, Yes, I completely agree with you, any topic is getting deviated in to the unhealthy regional and communal abusive and ends up using unparliamentary language across people. Rediff should take control of it, also block the people posting such messages in the forum.
I would say, we should not support any of the current political parties in India. They are all selfish. People in India are really suffering a lot. I have not seen any politician who really wants to volunteer help, however they are in politics just to make money. Why should the politicians need their own private satellite channels????
For example, 1. Karunanidhi claims he's an atheist and why should he support reservations, 2. He says he wants to develop tamil as an language to international standards, why should their Grandchildren study in good schools where English is a primary language, 3. He gave Television Sets for his victory in last election, he should have offered free education to the poor people. 4. Jayalalitha is also not a good lady, i don't know much about her to say.
As i said it's for his personal benefits and nothing else. Before i conclude, WE ARE ALL WASTING OUR TIME AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY RESULT FOR OUR DISCUSSION, LET'S GET BACK TO DO BETTER THINGS.
If you see these forums, all foul language is started by the northies and only the defence comes from the south. It's mainly becos the northies did not expect B'lore-chennai-Hyderabad to make such huge progress with their huge pool of talented engineers. They were thinking that anything to the south of deccan is just jungle. Poor guys ;-)
Now that they can't stand up to the southies and compete with them, they use all other methods to suppress them.
I'm a northie, but if any of my fellow northies want to claim that they're born "greater" than the southies, I've one thing to say. If one person is standing on a 10 foot high pedestal (great northie) and another one in the floor (poor southie), and both end up in Infosys or TCS in the same level, who is better?? LOL :-) I've seen it right before my eyes and hence I don't discriminate anyone based on language colour etc...
And all northies are not friends and all southies are not friends and all muslims are not friends.
I choose my friends only based on whether their behaviour suits my type. I don;t do it solely based on language, horoscope etc..
During 70s one Sri Lankan student told me that a bus load of tamil college girls going on a picnic were captured and molested by sri Lankan army and nothing was done about it by the govt. The tamils there were not only discriminated, but had to put up with such acts that led to demand for separate land.
RE:Tamil pple create pbm wherever they go
by vivek murthi on Dec 19, 2007 12:15 AM Permalink
says the person who doesn't want to give out his name, probably is jobless because he doesn't go out seeking one!! Atleast the tamil's are ready to go out anywhere seeking a living. The fact that they do and find jobs everywhere says they can co-exist better.
RE:Tamil pple create pbm wherever they go
by loler Chicken on Dec 19, 2007 12:39 AM Permalink
illogical reply... getting jobs is bcoz u guys study hard... being social is alienistic to tamilians... they cannot co-exist with other people... they start creating groups!
RE:Tamil pple create pbm wherever they go
by ramaniv on Dec 19, 2007 01:40 AM Permalink
@Patriot: From what little I know, India's division is happening everywhere, in Kashmir, in the east(Maoists) and the last state to split up was Bihar, I think. It's happening in Andhra with Telengana and almost in every state, even in Maharashtra for crying out loud!! So why don't you try to educate yourself a little bit and examine who's really responsible for nepotism.
@Chicken: And the post that started it has a lot of logic I presume. Creating groups is with all sects of people, ever heard of 'Birds of a feather, flock together'. Not being social is not a reason to hate dude!! Don't blame you, you're probably once bitten - twice shy!! Tamils are a reserved people though, conservative by nature, but if social is discoing and being boorish -- yes, guilty as charged :-)
To all Tamilians in this forum, Can you write and pronounce parota or padmanabhan correctly? If you can do that, I would accept Tamil is a gr8 gr8 language. If not.......
RE:Pronounciation Test to Tamilians
by Kabothi Kumar on Dec 19, 2007 06:40 AM Permalink
Mr, there's no need for any tamilian to pronounce non-tamil words accurately. Parotta is not sanskrit, like you and your family believes, it's an arabic import. Can you pronounce "Tamizh" properly in any language in the world other than Tamizh and Malayalam? So, shut up and get a life..
RE:Pronounciation Test to Tamilians
by free mind on Dec 19, 2007 08:31 AM Permalink
Jst a doubt...have u kept most of ur letters in bank locker or what. U write Baba as Papa, bulb as pulp, Krishna as Kirusna, Bharat as Barat, Jayalalita as chayalalita, Swamy as chami, air deccan as air thekkan.....But on the positive side, it was easy to learn how to read Tamil, for the sake of reading bus boards.
RE:Pronounciation Test to Tamilians
by Edwin Navaratnam on Dec 19, 2007 09:48 AM Permalink
Even with all these restricted amount of letters Taamil far richer than Hindi or any other Indian language, The only Indian language that it can be compared to is Sanskrit. English has only 26 letters but that did not stop it from becomiong a world language . Tamil has its own strict rules on how certain sounds and words have to be spelled, especially of Non Tamil origin. So stop being silly and childish. Tamil is the oldset living Indian language therefore Tamils and Tamil have more right to India and than HIndi and al the other languages which evolved much later.
RE:Pronounciation Test to Tamilians
by free mind on Dec 19, 2007 08:45 PM Permalink
More examples Chitti bank- Citi bank, rakasiyam -rahasyam, arokikiya - arogya... U tamilian dont know anything thats happening outside ur tamilnadu..how come u are comparing Tamil with other languages...Jst for the heck of it..isn;t it?