1) Oct 23/2002 SAMIR KHAN PATHAN ( arrested for killing a cop, gunned down in police encounter) Accused of being a part of conspiracy to kill Modi.
2) Jan 10/2003 >> Sadiq Jamal Mehtar >> Gunned down in Naroda by crime branch ( Near Ahmedabad) Copps claim he was working for Dawood / chota shakeel & LET /ISI
3) Jan 23 / 2003 ( Ganesh Kunthe & Mahesh Jadav) Residents of Mumbai. Gunned down near Kalupur ( Ahmedabad Railstation area) Accused of working for Dawood / Chota shakeel / ISI
4 ) June 15 / 2004 >> Ishrat Jehan & Javed Shaikh ( from Pune) 2 Pakistani natinals Killed near Kotrapur. >> Accuse as working for LET
5) Nov 26 / 2005 >> Sohrabudin shaikh >> An underworld operative , known extortinist from Marble industry. Fate >> Killed , accussed of targetting Political leaders.
6) March 17 >> 4 Harkatul ansar mujahideen kiilled planning to plant bomb in a place of worship.
7) Dec 28 / 2006 >> Tulsi ram Prajapati >> History sheeter of Ujjain , shot down in Banaskantha.
RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by ASHOK on Dec 11, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
Mr Viewpoint what do want >> Give Bhrata Ratna to these guys posthonmously.
Similar actions are accussed/alleged to be taken by KPS GILL / Beant Singh in Paunjab to remove terrorism in Punjab.
Also I know that Beant singh became CM of Punjbb ( as Congress candidate) Beant singh was killed in front of Punjab Supreme court by a hunman Bomb.
Also note that My father was victim of Sikh Extremism ( Tortured by GOONS of Bhindrawale)
You decide why you like Congress. I have no sympathy for them. They created punjab trouble and now they want to create trouble in Gujarat , once they realise Gujrat is gone to BJP
RE:RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 11:15 AM Permalink
serious trouble in the system of governance and this is what i am trying to highlight. Modi must understand the plurality of Gujarath.
RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by ASHOK on Dec 11, 2007 11:19 AM Permalink
Look into 1985 Hindu Muslim riots in Gujrat Engineered by Chimanbhai Patel ( the than Congress CM of Gujrat) It was mother of all Riots in Gujrat. I was in Gujrat ( Ahmedabad)
RE:RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by ASHOK on Dec 11, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
Are we waiting for Bomb blasts in Gujrat . Just like what happenned in Banglore / 2 times in Hydrabad / 2 times in Delhi / once in Punjab / 2 times in Mumbai/ 2 times in UP and honourable Home minister is sitting duck having no clue
RE:RE:RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by ASHOK on Dec 11, 2007 11:26 AM Permalink
Gntle men Wake up >> POTA was right way. BJP lernt hard way after Kargil / Parliament attack/ Kandhar incident and ofcourse Godhra train burning that India has clear and present Danger at hand. Which needed to be controlled.
RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 11:25 AM Permalink
and finally he died of a massive heart attack! Ashok, I have heard about that but do not know much about it.
RE:RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by ASHOK on Dec 11, 2007 11:28 AM Permalink
Right now I am 54 year old , I settled in Gujrat in 1978 and have seen enough of CONGRESS Bunglings but that does not mean I endorse Bajrangi Dal or VHP or Togadia
RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 11:33 AM Permalink
Ashokji, could you please tell us how different is Modi's rule from the previous Congress and BJP rule?
RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
Ashokji, I dont think we can compre Kashmir and north east with Gujarath. I dont want to make more comments about those problems but these are seperate issues and not an apple to apple comparison.
RE:RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by ASHOK on Dec 11, 2007 11:35 AM Permalink
Iam sure if baddies are no more ( what ever religion they are)In above list you can see hindus also.
Things become less complicated and Industry as well as common man works better.
Compare Gujrat with Kashmir / North east.
Every day you hear Army atrocities. Why Congress is silent on that.
RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 11:41 AM Permalink
Ashokji, Did you support the emergency rule imposed by Indira Gandhi? I was told that everything was perfect during those days too. but we voted Indira out of power and she learned a lot after the election. What ever the situation may be, do you support such autocratic governance where the opposition live in fear.
RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by ASHOK on Dec 11, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
Surely I dont support Emergency as imposed by Indira Gandhi. Although if you see & - of indiraGandhi days , she was good for India and she had guts to stand against adversity.
Similarly I do believe MODI has guts to stand against Fundamentalists ( Altough Many may see him as a Hindu Fundamentalist)
I believe he is evolving as time is progressing and that is why VHP & and many other Hindu organisations which are of extreme views are hesitent in supporting MODI, this time around.
This coupled with Mass bribing power of Congress ( as they are already doing in HELMETS and electricity theft cases)
I do fear Modi can be made to loose and we may never see his next phase of governance.
If 2002 was bad year that what next ( what sort of mass killings you have seen in Gujrat after that)
look at Baroda , althose Muslims shops which were burnt, have come up with great show and are back with same Muslim Owners with the help of Insurance claims.
I know it was all wrong at first place but look who started it at first place , start looking forward from 1950 >> when India became Republic and we took oath to follow a multicultral society with equality for all.
What sort of equality CONGRESS has given.???
they were supposed to be pathsetters. They created all sorts of Rifts and reginal parties started gaining ground on those crackes created by Congress.
RE:RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 11:34 AM Permalink
Ashokji, Atleast this time dont vote for an autocrat. vote for freedom and democracy and non-violence and an innocent Gujarath
RE:SREEKUMAR DIARY
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 11:13 AM Permalink
Ashok, I am sorry to hear about being a victim of punjab terrorism. I got to say that i do not find a comparison between the situation in Punjab and the sitation in Gujarath. There were several people that were gunned down during Modi regime. How come so many people started coming up while we did not have any of them in the previous 65 years of governance. So, there is something fundamentally wrong with in system of governance.
Chances that Modi or congress getting majority is dim.
The chances are better for Congress to improve its tally. This itself will be a great achievement considering the fact that till three months ago, Congress was no where.
My assunption is based on following.
Modi's wife and in laws will not suport Modi
Patels will vote against Modi.
Kolis will vote against Modi
Brahmins will vote against Modi
Thakore will vote against Modi
Majority of Farmers will vote against Modi
Majority of working class is upset with Modi
Followers of Hard line Hindutva (Togadia , VHP, Bajrang Dal) will not support Modi.
Swadhya Samaj will not support Modi.
Followers of Swaminarayan will not support Modi.
Goons will support Modi
Education Mafia will support Modi
Land Mafia will support Modi
5 Crorepati will support Mr Modi
Modi will win however as an abundant caution I will advise the followers of Modi to buy new hankerchief to hide face or to wipe out the tears.
RE:RE:A hung assembly is what we see
by Damodaran on Dec 11, 2007 12:19 PM Permalink
Why r u wasting ur time idot wait till 22 u will know who will win
Ms. Sheela Bhatt, will you please clarify this if N. Modi would have mentioned Sonia as "Maut Ki Saudagar", what would have been your reaction ?
You reporters are always biased and let me tell you one thing, the more you try to infame Modi, the more supporters you are creating,
thats how it is working for him, if you all so called Reporters would have kept quiet, it would have been tough for modi to win but you have rose him to fame and he will win this election,
tell me does congress have any known local political leader ?
no they dont have it, nor has BJP except for Modi hence its only modi himself who can defeat his ownself. But thanks you "intellectual mass" he will win,
He is schemy and may be vicious but he has brought gujarat the development, when you say something about gujarat, why not give a comparison of other state, especially about west bengal, where many innocent people are bein murdered and raped by government ? why is your so called Sonia, Rahul and congress party member dont do anything, why medha patker is not going on upvas to protest,
these folk is looking to get famous nothing else, its just a publicity stunt thats all!!
How many times sonia has visited gujarat during these last five years ? where was she when funds related to development were delayed, why there no significant trains are alloted to gujarat ?
These politicians are just behaving like visitors , they will come and say anything about gujarat and its culture and then
RE:Gujarat is not at mercy of your views !!
by ASHOK on Dec 11, 2007 10:00 AM Permalink
Shiv Raj Congress Proposes Madhav Singh Solankis son as Future Congress CM of Gujrat.
Just Google Misdeeds of MSS's ( Ex CM Gujrat > Congress) and also look into His divisive KHAM Theory to break Gujrat. I do not want to say any more.
Yes Sonia visited Gujrat , she visited DANGS and again google and see what she was looking for. >> I do not wish to comment.
Enough of Congress, they know Congress is fully exposed
The writer Ms. Sheela says, Sohrabuddin is a small time criminal, whats the difference, he is a Criminal in possession of Arms.... I think Modi must have made Sohrabuddin kidnap Ms. Sheela and her family, they she wont bother anything, just anyone come and save me...
Rediff have totally become insane... might be my last visit to rediff site...
RE:RE:Sheela Bhatt do you make Sense?
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 09:55 AM Permalink
Suresh, Police has no right to kill someone with out a judgement. As long as the court does not implicate some one as a culprit, he remains innocent. Understand this basic ethos of democracy and freedom.
RE:Sheela Bhatt do you make Sense?
by Suresh Vijayan on Dec 11, 2007 10:14 AM Permalink
If your parents or wife or kids are kidnapped can you say these words? Police and courts? gosh!!! go to hell buddy!!! unless punishments are severe crime will be on rise...
RE:Sheela Bhatt do you make Sense?
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 10:19 AM Permalink
So do you support the islamic court system in India. the punishments are very severe in islamic countries. For me, I dont want to live in a wild arabia :)
RE:RE:Sheela Bhatt do you make Sense?
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 10:20 AM Permalink
By the by, I am sorry if you were an innocent victim of these movements (Punjab fractionalism or Naxals) in India.
RE:Sheela Bhatt do you make Sense?
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 10:57 AM Permalink
No. There was no proper trial in the case of Saddam Hussain. The judiciary was made a mokery.
RE:Sheela Bhatt do you make Sense?
by r patil on Dec 11, 2007 09:59 AM Permalink
Veiwpoint tell us how were terrorism ended in punjab,how naxalite are killed by the congrees in andra pradesh.Tell us this basic ethos of democracy is apaliable only for the BJP to follow .
RE:Sheela Bhatt do you make Sense?
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 10:03 AM Permalink
Patil, I do not agree with innocents being killed either in Punjab or Andhra pradesh. Also, one can not compare a movement like naxel movement to an individuals game.
Gujarat is a two party state. Thankfully no question of hung parlament. BJP has Modi, Cong do not have any body to whom they can project as future CM. From the campain it seems that its al about Modi Vs Sonia, Manmohan and entire central Govt machinery. Inspite of all this Modi is challenging this dwarf leaders from higher elevation. These leaders are no match for Modi! Its a shame for Congress
RE:Its Modi Vs Entire Congress
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 09:57 AM Permalink
the matter is simple rose patel, Even the central leaders are afraid of Modi because he is a seriel killer. He not only lead the 2002 riot but also continued to kill others during his 5 year regime, for example, Hiren Pandya opposed him and he was killed. i can give other examples also.. Every human being, including me are afraid of a seriel killer. It is a right phrase to him, he is the merchant of death!
RE:Its Modi Vs Entire Congress
by DS on Dec 11, 2007 10:19 AM Permalink
Just when I thought that people posting on forums have become smarter, I read your reply and changed my opinion. You wrote "also continued to kill others during his 5 year regime". Where is the news? Do you think that with such a hellish media all against Modi, even a single murder would have gone unnoticed? Please for the sake of sanity, don't just throw anything at us.
RE:RE:Its Modi Vs Entire Congress
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 10:26 AM Permalink
Sorry, missed my brain. Who killed Hiran Pandya? I knew Pandya before Modi caught my limelight.
RE:Its Modi Vs Entire Congress
by DS on Dec 11, 2007 10:38 AM Permalink
There is no evidence that Modi killed him. Just because circumstances point that way doesn't make Modi a killer. Interestingly, when people including you are not ready to believe that Sohrabuddin was a terrorists in the face of shown evidence, how come you are casting accusation without evidence on Modi?
RE:RE:Its Modi Vs Entire Congress
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
About Modi and Hiren Pandya, THis is not what i am accusing, Pandya's father told this with tears.
RE:Its Modi Vs Entire Congress
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 10:59 AM Permalink
DS, I have no idea who sohrabuddin was. I have heard about him only after he was killed and later when all these media attention happens. The point that i am making is that neither terrorists nor innocents shoule be killed without the involvement of judiciary. Our judiciary is the pride of our democratic system.
RE:RE:RE:Its Modi Vs Entire Congress
by DS on Dec 11, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
Sorry man but I lost you there. I feel sorry for the bereft but we need more evidence. For that is true, if Vanjara comes crying and say that it was not a fake encounter, we will also have to believe that.
RE:RE:Its Modi Vs Entire Congress
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 11:17 AM Permalink
OK. We need more evidence and the accused is the countries chiefminister. Let him move aside and let the judicial system conduct a fair enquiry on these human right violation issues.
RE:RE:Its Modi Vs Entire Congress
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 10:26 AM Permalink
Hello DS, Who killed Hiresh Pandya? I knew Pandya before Modi caught my limelight.
RE:Where was Sonia when India was at war
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 09:59 AM Permalink
Sonia was only 24 years in 1971. How mature were you when you were 24? It seems you can not even understand the plurality of the society, even though you are much older.
RE:RE:Where was Sonia when India was at war
by DS on Dec 11, 2007 10:21 AM Permalink
The age of maturity is 18 and not 21. If she was not mature by 24, she was under-developed and even on that basis, she should leave muddling with Indian politics.
RE:Where was Sonia when India was at war
by ASHOK on Dec 11, 2007 10:06 AM Permalink
Maybe it was a coinicidence. I have tremendous respect for Rajiv Gandhi. He was all for Modren India's growth.
He worked with honesty but was cut short by V.P singh first and LTTE next
RE:RE:Where was Sonia when India was at war
by ASHOK on Dec 11, 2007 10:07 AM Permalink
This does not mean I support Congress!! In Gujrat. I am all for MODI.
RE:Where was Sonia when India was at war
by viewpoint on Dec 11, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
Do you support Modi for the year 2002 violence and innocents death (both hindus and muslims died) or for the development that Modi projects? Itseems the projection of Modi is a big lie. He is a master media man who can howl a single lie several times to make it a truth :) I cant find a reason why you are supporting Modi.
doubt the intention of Congress by asking for a return of zhakeer Hussain, purely because she draw against Hindu? and purely becasue Hindus did shown their non acceptance to his views?
I NEVER EXPECTED SUCH STATEMENT FROM CONGRESS. I AM PROUD TO BE A HINDU, BUT AGAINST THOSE WHO ABUSE HINDUISM. But somebody try to break the unity of INDIA, I AM A INDIAN.
i have NO respect for congress and their specific ideologies, but this action really made them stand along with other opportunists like Communists and Co..
RE:Holocaust of Hindus by Muslims,
by Dravid on Dec 11, 2007 09:41 AM Permalink
David, you like this article it seems... Happy to publish, right... good job...
