RE:RE:tamil brahmins
by Sami on Dec 09, 2007 12:11 PM Permalink
i feel you are not a tamil brahmin. you are trying creat rift between others and brahmins
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by risky proposition on Dec 09, 2007 11:59 AM Permalink
we never did have any kind of reservation pal. we were at the top bcos of our intelligence and continue to do so inspite of reservation. If u r on the top wny do u still keep cribbing about us
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by rajesh on Dec 09, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
san man : you badly need some 'education'.. You DMK thugs always claim that you have clensed Tamil Nadu of Brahmins in the past few decades... Why are you afraid of them still ?.. Its your raj that is prevailing in TN today, look at your Karunanidhi and his family - they have amassed thousands of crores of rupees and built Business empires at the cost of poor Tamilians - and its not your Brahmin enemies - its your own Leader KArunanidhi & Co. who are sucking your blood.. Are you not aware of systematic roll-calls run by DMK thugs, swndling money from poor Tamils ?..Wake-up man.. get some education...
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by Roopsingh on Dec 09, 2007 01:00 PM Permalink
The Bramhin lady who ruled TN for 10 years had amassed thousands of crores. She earned so mush so that the entire politicos in TN are poor in front of the so called Bramhin lady. Hey dont try to fool around and think that you only are intelligent. Look at the cut off marks and think again.
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by alex rajan on Dec 09, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
Address The issue as socio economical multi problem , not as pertaining to any caste or religion
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by sai on Dec 09, 2007 02:28 PM Permalink
stupid people... dont be left behind thinking about race caste ...the americans /the arabs are all here to see u fight..wats the problem why cant people just stay away from stupid discussions...have u forgotten to say'leave people to their karma'??? only when you have the young blood (and wen ur jobless) will u fight but later ull realise the importance of saying it..every indian- be it muslim /christian is a hindu ... people like jayaalalitha or skarunanidhi or sonia or modi or budha etc etc all live just by point out the difference between people.. They were supposed to only point out economic differences but now they point out every difference they can find..
RE:RE:tamil brahmins
by chandra natarajan on Dec 09, 2007 11:43 AM Permalink
Call them clever and intelligent. If u say they are cunning, then someone might term u ignorant. Rajaji was a tamil Brahmin. He was the big-mind behind india's progress post-freedom. Bharathi, everyone knows the knowledge wealth and his revolutionary poems for equality in the society as well as betn men and women. At the present time, Traffic Ramaswamy, who fights for fundamental rights of people as well is a tamil brahmin. I am not creating a divide, but if u unnecessarily bring that issue, u will be the loser, keep that in mind and let out ur words.
There is nothing wrong. DMK as a ruling party is conducting the conference to show-case and display what it had done to TN people. It is a marketing & selling technique while being in power. If they don't demostrate what they have done to people while being in power another occasion may not arise. After sent out of power if one makes any noise of achievements, no body has patience to listen, like what had happened to former CM K.S.Balajee, Political Analyst
RE:DMK set for medieval show of strength
by Prabhakar KRISHNA on Dec 09, 2007 12:59 PM Permalink
DMK is never wrong even when they kill innocent media employees( SUN TV). What happenend to the case? Where are our freedom of speech champions?
I am from north and curious to know that the Tamils bramins are genetically same with other Tamils or different. In nort though we oppose the braminism but consider them as our own race. Genetically we are same. I personally donot believe in Arya Dravid theory and consider them as a same group. The triables may be a different race but others are same. Since lot of mails support the different race theory so I became curios to know do they consider the Tamils bramins as their race or Aryan or something else?
RE:Tamils bramins are genetically same with other Tamils are different
by first last on Dec 09, 2007 10:50 AM Permalink
when Hitler started conquering europe... tamil brahmins started learning german
RE:Tamils bramins are genetically same with other Tamils are different
by ice tea on Dec 09, 2007 11:33 AM Permalink
first last, "when Hitler started conquering europe... tamil brahmins started learning german" ..and your grand father was sleeping. Atleast you wake up idiot
RE:Tamils bramins are genetically same with other Tamils are different
by shubasrikrishna on Dec 09, 2007 11:21 AM Permalink
Dear Mail mail, You are just plain jealous of Tamil Brahmins.They are the most non violent class. Just see the amount of insults all the media ( movies, songs, jokes)heap on them and they have never reacted unlike Muslims or other castes. They are genetically intelligent and thanks to the software boom are and will be successful. But they will never harm you Mail mail.
RE:RE:Tamils bramins are genetically same with other Tamils are different
by Singha on Dec 09, 2007 11:41 AM Permalink
If they are intelligent, they should strive to remove reservations. the bcs dont usually support ecomonic criteria based reservations.
An attempt was made in Karnataka to remove caste based reservations and try economic criteria based reservations. Brhamins who are less than 10% got 90% of the top ranks.
The trouble in Tamil Nadu is that the castes are not acting in harmony unlike in other states making it possible for islamists and christianists to move in and divide the castes further.
RE:Tamils bramins are genetically same with other Tamils are different
by Skype net on Dec 09, 2007 01:47 PM Permalink
Singha, You pose like a 'sarva sampanna and most Intelligent'. You need to read more about tamil Brahmins. 1. Karnataka is most benefitted by tamil barhmins. Great DVG, Masti, TPK, Ramanujam,Veena DS Iyengar, BKS Iyengar, Musuri KM many more... were all TB's. 2. During mysore kingdom era, they were aasthan pandiths. 3. Noble prize winners Chandrashekharan, C.V Raman were T.Bs. 4.Think of their numbers, they are just 2-3% in TN, even though they are leaders in many field. 5. World champion Vishy is a T brahmin, why no other Vishy in whole of India? 6.Film personalities? Hema, rekha, kamal, Arvind, Suhasini, Manirathnam... (list is big) 7.Musicians.. This space is not enough.
So What Shubha said is right. Tamil brahmins are naturally intelligent, it DOESNT mean others are not intelligent ok?
RE:Tamils bramins are genetically same with other Tamils are different
by Sami on Dec 09, 2007 11:24 AM Permalink
Sir, in tamilnadu polyticians are the only bad. Brahmins, thevars mudaliyars gounders and all are good. all are good. Tamilnadu loves all please all love tamilnadu
RE:Tamils bramins are genetically same with other Tamils are different
by Prabhakar KRISHNA on Dec 09, 2007 01:07 PM Permalink
U R casteist and fascist because U know U r incompetent and undeserving and you are using the same argumnets which Hitler used to persecute Jews. In TN brahmins are replced by Jews.
RE:Tamils bramins are genetically same with other Tamils are different
by Singha on Dec 09, 2007 11:36 AM Permalink
many groups are proud of their heritage. parsees, jat sikhs, sections of shias etc.
tamil brahmins in my experience seem to be proud of their contribution to fine arts, religion, rituals etc. and the conservative ones want to maintain their exclusivity.
I dont think we should be concerned as long as they dont impose their views on others using force.
RE:Tamils bramins are genetically same with other Tamils are different
by Singha on Dec 09, 2007 11:20 AM Permalink
Brahmins are one of the groups like gounders, thevars, etc.
Like each of the above groups, they consider themselves different. there is no question of aryan etc here.
Such genetic differences exist in North India too.
RE:Tamils bramins are genetically same with other Tamils are different
by Manu on Dec 09, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
Dear Singha, Interesting observations. Bhramins of north are also fairer than other castes. In Ramayana, the Ravan was mentioned as a noble high class bramin by cast and highly literate and knowledgeable king indicating that some bramins were there even thousands of year before.
I am from outside TN, but i fail to undersatnd how gounders and thevars can be OBCs. I mean from what i know they were kings abd chieftains in olden days. Correct me if i am wrong.
RE:Reg:Tamil Nadu
by Sami on Dec 09, 2007 10:55 AM Permalink
Sir I am from Tamilnadu. We are tamilians. In my opinion there differeces in caste community and all. But we can find the differences i polytical parties only. Other caste differences community differeces are ignored. We dont find untouchablity in tamilnadu.
The bc obc mbc and there because of our governmental system. I mean India as whole. In face it is merely political and the politicians created this. Please forget this matter and think Gounders and thevars and other communities are same in tamilnadu. I dont know whether i answered to the point. Just i took the opportunity to feel happy about tamil nadu.
RE:Reg:Tamil Nadu
by Aarti on Dec 09, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
True.
Gounders, Thevars, Mudaliars etc. are rich even today but are considered "backward", bcoz they are all casteist. But Go to a social function and call them "backward", they will not accept, they will argue that they belong to high lineage and theirs is a superior high caste. The Brahmins are selfish and do not think about their caste otherwise they would have negotiated for BC/MBC status just like Thevars, gounders, Mudaliyars etc.
In India there are rich and poor among all castes and religion. Real progress will happen only if the Government and people realise this.
But the Government will not realise this since they want votes and People know this but are selfish and want to prmote their individual castes.
In the meantime the selfless castes like Brahmins, Pillai, Reddys suffer since they are categorised as OC and the poor among them always stay as poor!
RE:Reg:Tamil Nadu
by APPAN NATHAN on Dec 09, 2007 10:05 AM Permalink
IF THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN OBC/BC/MBC, BOTH IDIOTS KARUNANIDHI AND JAYALALITHA WILL BE DUMPED IN THE DUST BIN.
BOTH ARE HIGH LEVEL CHEATERS AND EXTREMELY CORRUPT.
WHILE IDIOT JAYALALITHA IS A CASTEIST, IDIOT KARUNANIDHI IS PSEUDO-SECULARIST.
RE:Reg:Tamil Nadu
by Ganapathi ps on Dec 09, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
There is no Aryan or Dravidian. This was introduced into the history of India by foreignors to keep the Indian society divided. Even distinctions between castes are disappearing very fast. In India there are only two categories i.e. the haves (rich) and havenots (the poor). Reservations should be to the havenots irrespective of their caste, creed or religion. Religious education should be introduced in the schools where basic prayers should be taught to all and common religous practices should be evolved for all the communities within Hindu society to eradicate any kind of distinction. Political leaders who are not corrupt and who do not offer bribes in cash or kind (free TVs, free bicyles, etc for votes) but who work for the development of the state and country should be elected. Corrupt leaders will continuee to divide the society on caste and religious lines to garner votes and stay in power. Beware.
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by Sadasiva Prasad on Dec 09, 2007 11:23 AM Permalink
Whatever may be Jayalalitha's short comings, I do not agree that casteism is one of them. You cannot also blame her for 'dynatyism' ! She does not have dumb followers like Anbazhagan & others who after serving the party for decades simply accepted Stalin as their leader without much ceremony. Shame, shame, shame.Mind you I do not belong to AIDMK. No.
RE:Reg:Tamil Nadu
by mailtogra on Dec 09, 2007 10:26 AM Permalink
because during british rule brahmins licking the british made gounders and thevars backward