As we know, a bogus doctor can never save a patient's life, a failed politician cannot save his people's life and lifestyle even; never take to progress.
RE:As we know, a bogus doctor can never save a patient's life, a failed politician cannot save his people's life and lifestyle even; never take to progress.
by Jayaprakash K on Dec 05, 2007 04:33 PM Permalink
Person who writes himself is 'Bogus'
RE:RE:As we know, a bogus doctor can never save a patient's life, a failed politician cannot save his people's life and lifestyle even; never take to progress.
by Jayaprakash K on Dec 05, 2007 04:37 PM Permalink
KK Sahadevan where are u, why are you writing behind the seen. The real face of your Communits people is come out.
RE:As we know, a bogus doctor can never save a patient's life, a failed politician cannot save his people's life and lifestyle even; never take to progress.
by prabhakaran natesan on Dec 05, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
So who will take us to progress. YOU??? Please do not sit in your arm chair and pass comments like this. Come out and act
RE:As we know, a bogus doctor can never save a patient's life, a failed politician cannot save his people's life and lifestyle even; never take to progress.
by Maheshji on Dec 05, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
. AnitCongress? AntiBJP? tu to dharti par bhoj hai y dont u hang urself? .
RE:As we know, a bogus doctor can never save a patient's life, a failed politician cannot save his people's life and lifestyle even; never take to progress.
by antiCongress antiBJP on Dec 05, 2007 04:46 PM Permalink
Your Modi may do it as Hitler done.
In the good old days one person was walking through a thick forest. He was carrying coins on his waist. Suddenly he heard the roar of a Cheetha closeby. To escape from the Cheetha he started running around a big banian tree. The cheetha followed him. He ran fast and was just at its tail. He caught and hung on the tail. The cheetha continued to go around the tree to catch him. His coins fell all around. Now he cannot leave the Cheetha's tail and he cannot remain like that way also too long. The Nuclear deal reminds this smalltime story.
As we know, a bogus doctor can never save a patient%u2019s life, a failed politician cannot save his people%u2019s life and lifestyle even; never take to progress.
If a person has got a victory from Panchat Elections, he always knows the pain of poor people. But, our Prime Minister never contested a Panchayat / Parliament elections, how does he know the pain of Indian poor.
RE:If a person has got a victory from Panchat Elections, he always knows the pain of poor people. But, our Prime Minister never contested a Panchayat / Parliament elections, how does he know the pain of Indian poor.
by samir banerjee on Dec 05, 2007 04:29 PM Permalink
There can not be a better pathetic argument.You want us to believe that only through election one understands the pain of the people then the MP'S and MLA's who are wasting public taxpayers money for not attending the parliament or Assembly sessions.They have been sent there by the public to participate in a debate with good reasoning.But what do we see WALK OUT just on the drop of HAT.If you want us to believe that these corrupt,dishonest,criminal background so called people' servant understand what poor is better than a simple honest non corrupt highly qualified modest man as Dr Manmohan Singh then you are notliving in Indian society.I wish we had people in or around the calibar of Dr Manmohan Singh in our parliament.You support the ideas of Left who see nothing good in India exept poverty becouse that makes their protest line longer.Honestly speaking BJP have disappointed us.They have started the process and would have concluded the deal had they been returned in majority.It sheer opportunism politic.They know in deep in their mind that this programme will see the face of success as did the economic reform inspie of strong opposition from BJP and the Communists in 1991 wneh Dr Manmohan Singh introduced the economic reform.To day the lot of Indian poor have improved considerably since then and will do more in years to come if we can move faster.BJP had that plan but they did not last.Dr Manmohan Singh want the progress but the Left are creating blocks.
RE:If a person has got a victory from Panchat Elections, he always knows the pain of poor people. But, our Prime Minister never contested a Panchayat / Parliament elections, how does he know the pain of Indian poor.
by Abbas Rumani on Dec 05, 2007 04:15 PM Permalink
To know the pain of poor you need to win a panchyat election. I did not know. By the way how many of our current politician has won a panchayat election
RE:RE:If a person has got a victory from Panchat Elections, he always knows the pain of poor people. But, our Prime Minister never contested a Panchayat / Parliament elections, how does he know the pain of Indian poor.
by my message on Dec 05, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
Panchayat elections or not. None of our politicians understand the needs of the people.
As per front page headline in DNA-Newspaper(a mass-circulated paper in Mumbai for those not from Mumbai) of 4th Dec 2007:
1> The Indo-Isreal spy settlite launching on board PSLV launcher was cancelled on behest of USA, because it would had gien Indian Army a highly accurate one meter resolution radar pictures with SAR technology
2> The same article goes to claim that again on behest of USA the range for Indian missils are capped to 5000km and no more.
There is no reaction from Govt to contradict, so it must be true, that rises the question is NPA Non Performing A'''?
RE:Congress NPA is compromising Indian sovereignity
by Attatar Yena on Dec 06, 2007 02:52 AM Permalink
This is not the case. The deal is not about energy only. India needs this deal badly because
- India does not have enough stock pile of nuclear fuel to fully utilize its nuclear program ( experimental research and power generation). - India does not have enough nuclear fuel to create more A bombs - which has a major implication for deterrance doctrine against China and Pakistan. - If we dont do anything now ( read as augmenting our nuclear stockpile) we will be left behind as Pakis and China will substantailly increase theirs. This nuclear deal will provide us with extra stock pile to generate energy while we free up our stock pile currently used for energy generation and divert it to making A bombs. This is the most important aspect of the deal - It helps us to make more A bombs. Now whether we need to do further testing or not is certainly not a political decision to made by our esteemed and knowledgeable politicians. I would love to hear what our scientists have to say on teh need for further testing.
Nuclear deal is becoming Manmohan's nemesis just as Bofors eclipsed Rajiv. The only part is left is a ginger group within Congress to surface to challenge him, like VP Singh and Arun Nehru did in 1987.
Leaving aside the tu-tu main-main, let us look at the some of the statements made by the PM in Parliament and via PMO and how the country is being misled.
1) PM in Lok Sabha on August 3, 2005 - separation of the reactors would be decided "voluntarily, solely on the basis of our judgment": FALSE
2) PMO press release July 29, 2005 - India could shift nuclear facilities from civil to military list like a nuclear weapon state: FALSE
3) PM in Lok Sabha July 29, 2005 - before accepting safeguards "all restrictions" would be lifted on India: FALSE
4) Promise given by PM in Parliament on August 17,2006 a) that the deal would permit full civil nuclear cooperation: FALSE
b) that the deal will ensure "irreversible" lifting of restrictions on India: FALSE
c) that the deal will not include annual presidential assessments of India%u2019s conformity with its non proliferation and other commitments: FALSE
d) that the deal will not entail scrutiny of its nuclear weapon programme: FALSE,
e) that the deal will not impose any foreign policy restraints: FALSE
f) that the deal will not require any safeguards over and above IAEA safeguards etc: FALSE
Can we trust this Manmohan Singh after all this? The answer is an emphatic "NO".
RE:Lies of the Manmohan Singh
by MSAT on Dec 05, 2007 04:23 PM Permalink
Leaving aside the tu-tu main-main, let us look at the some of the statements made by Nitish Kumar on this message board and how this forum is being misled by him. Here are his points, all of them FALSE, detailed point by point.
1) Separation of reactors has not been done yet; the entire process of identification of reactors will begin only after the 123 pact is operationalised (after IAEA safeguards, NSG approval, US Congress up-down vote etc). The entire process will take 2-8 years.
2) This is inbuilt into both the 123 pact and will be inbuilt into the IAEA safeguards pact, since IAEA, not US, will be informed if Indian wants to switch a facility from civil to military.
3) India will sign the IAEA pact only after all other international approvals are given (including NSG clearance and US Congress nod). Until then the text is only frozen with IAEA.
4)a) All we have not been granted full reprocessing technology by the US, Russia and France are willing to give it after NSG approval. So it will be full civil nuclear cooperation with many countries, not necessarily with the US.
4)b) Once this process is over, India can become a NSG member. After that it can block any proposal that will hurt interests since the NSG acts by consensus.
4)c) PM did not make any such statement. Annual certification is a routing legislative requirement for all bills in the US Congress; somewhat like in India, no minister can announce policy if Lok Sabha is in session. Contd
RE:RE:Lies of the Manmohan Singh
by MSAT on Dec 05, 2007 04:29 PM Permalink
Cotd..
4)d)Inspections can be only of our civil reactors under safeguards..that is being built into IAEA safeguards.
4)e) Foreign policy restraints will happen only if you are willing to bend. We were a much poorer country when we took on the US in the 1971 war; but if you have a weak-kneed govt like during the Kandahar hijacking, then anything can happen.
4)f) The deal itself does not require any additional safeguards. We are asking for additional safeguards on fuel supply and building of a strategic fuel reserve from IAEA.
So, can we trust the rubbish trash written by Nitish Kumar? NO. Only even more silly and credulous people like him (some are on this message board) will!!!!
RE:RE:RE:Lies of the Manmohan Singh
by my message on Dec 05, 2007 04:37 PM Permalink
Your arguments appart, your reference to Kandahar is not in the right spirit. No Govt could have done anything in the situation then. Any delay would have meant that there would have been more loss of lives of innocent Indians in a foreign country in which India did not even have diplomatic relations. In case of any more casualties, you probably would have been the first to condemn the then Govt. Or may be you would not have, as probably you did not have any relatives or dear ones in that ill fated plane.
RE:Lies of the Manmohan Singh
by Narasimha Swamy on Dec 05, 2007 03:38 PM Permalink
Do not know where you got so much information but thank you for putting all of them here.
RE:Lies of the Manmohan Singh
by Raj on Dec 05, 2007 03:48 PM Permalink
Boss,
For a guy with a yellow coloured glasses everything looks yellow. Dont go with commies beacuse they are playing the tricks for their Chinese commy masters. The BJP guys are opposing the deal because they can not digest the fact that their baby is now being hijacked by the prsent government.
Boss, India is not a week country. A lot of guys have tried their hands but nobody has suceeded till now. Time of India is now and let us be bold.
RE:Lies of the Manmohan Singh
by Umesh P Singh on Dec 05, 2007 03:57 PM Permalink
I think u r son of Sonia and Manmohan. That's why u r talking like that
RE:Lies of the Manmohan Singh
by Muralidharan Jagannathan on Dec 05, 2007 04:15 PM Permalink
We cannot trust Manmohan Singh. They are bending back to make this agreement. All other foriegn policy decision by this govt in 2-3 years is only to make way for this agreement. Opposition and Left should unite to scrap this issue. MMS and his party are lying and hiding things from the people.
RE:Lies of the Manmohan Singh
by Jayaprakash K on Dec 05, 2007 04:46 PM Permalink
Nitin Kumar - YOu yourself saying false/true is not the right thing, points to be clarified too. Its not the matter of Dr.Singh bad/congress bad. Its best of our country/development without energy nothing, you are passing this comments only because of energy once stoped you are become "Zero". Each and every planning their financial freedom/security for tomorrow like it is most important to think for energy security. If you are holding 200-1000 N-Bombs that will not feed "Dal Roti" it means not ignoring security, right now we have sufficient security to handle Pak. Once we become a Developed country whole world will "Salute India" that every one should mind it.
RE:Lies of the Manmohan Singh
by Abbas Rumani on Dec 05, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
Mr Nitin Kumar Tusi Kamal ho. Khud hi saval kartay ho our Jawab bhi khud hi daitay ho
Manmohan Singh told lie in Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha
1. Firstly he said Indo-Nuclear deal is a revolution for India. 2. Then said whole Parliament is with me and will make a consensus. 3. Then said if the Left rejects it, it can take back their support. 4. In this situation, he said entire UPA is with me. 5. After the Nuclear Panel formation, when discussion made, Laloo, Pawar, Paswan, Karunanidhi like leaders are also left. 6. When he met BJP leaders, he has a little bit hope, he can pass it in the parliament with voting. 7. After people knowing the deal through the channels, Tehelka exclusive on Gujarat riot, he rejected the voting in Parliament. 8. At last BJP was also against, when discussed Nuclear bill in Parliament. 9. The bitter truth (he never told others -- I think it is also a lie) is that he does not have support of main Congress leaders also.
RE:Manmohan Singh told lie in Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha
by PRADEEP GOYAL on Dec 05, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAY?. HIS SPEACH WRITTEN BY SONIA GANDHI HENCE HE DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS THE MEANING OF WRITTEN SPEACH. THIS IS THE DUTY FOR A KATHPUTLI THAT EVERYTHING WHICH IS WRITTEN SPEAK WITHOUT ANY CORRECTION OTHERWISE SONIA MADEM WILL PUNISH.
RE:Manmohan Singh told lie in Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha
by mohit paul on Dec 05, 2007 03:38 PM Permalink
If India conducts nuclear test, US withdraw from the deal. So be it. As long as we don't conduct test, we will get electricity.
RE:Manmohan Singh told lie in Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha
by Abbas Rumani on Dec 05, 2007 04:25 PM Permalink
Mr. George If we conduct nuclear test now even without 123 or hyde act what will america and other countries will do? Send Congratulation messages?
RE:Manmohan Singh told lie in Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha
by MSAT on Dec 05, 2007 05:04 PM Permalink
Absolutely right, Abbas!!! If we test without the 123 Pact, Mr George may get a warm congratulatory message from the other George (Bush) telling hom how wise he is!!!
RE:RE:Manmohan Singh told lie in Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha
by Amrit Singh on Dec 05, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
India has also right to withdraw from the treaty if India national interests requires it to do so. This is not one way treaty. In case India conducts nuclear test, treaty will not be void automatically. USA president has take into consideration India security enviroment (i.e. hostile China and India). In case USA cancels the treaty, issues like fuel security has been addressed. India can buy fuel from other countries. The main issue here is to get green light from NSG. Once you get it, you can buy nuclear reactor and fuel from country of your choice and it does not have to be USA.
RE:Manmohan Singh told lie in Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha
by MSAT on Dec 05, 2007 04:06 PM Permalink
You are in a dream world, George, not Amrit Singh. NSG is not in the business of selling nukes to anybody. No country, not even the US, sells nukes to anyone else. If you meant supply of uranium, then Amrit Singh is right on the dot. The Indian effort is to ensure that the assurance of fuel supply from other countries that is incorporated in the 123 agreement, in case the US terminates the pact, is also built in the IAEA safeguards that it is currently negotiating. Go back and read on the issue some more before writing trash or replying to the trash that people like Nitish Kumar have written on this messageboard.
RE:Manmohan Singh told lie in Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha
by MSAT on Dec 05, 2007 04:39 PM Permalink
I should not be replying to such trash, but I will anyway. You read it and tell me where it mentions nukes, and you also name one country to which NSG has sold nukes. In fact, the entire BJP has been protesting in Parliment PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE 123 PACT DOES NOT MENTION NUKES OR NUKE TESTING!!!!!
RE:RE:RE:Manmohan Singh told lie in Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha
by ashokknair nair on Dec 05, 2007 03:49 PM Permalink
patriotism is required but not more than humanism.... Why are we crying for the right to conduct test, when we dont have basic requirements like food, power, and shelter...Try to see contries like japan, korea and singapore who are concentrating on their infra development and economy than the defence sector....Try to give foor to poor than speak on these bigger issues like the nuke deal, and brahmos....
