With due respect to all religion, caste etc., I have begun to smell a rat here. Yesterday, I too had written off a message that contained words of depth. But seeing this spree of banning, I have begun to feel otherwise. I personally feel it is a matter of give - n - take. The Director & Politicos sign an agreement -
1) The director releases the film.
2) The politicos ban the film & create a furore 'coz it contains derogatory remarks (!) against a particular caste; it gives them political mileage; this is excellent as concerns the fast approaching elections.
3) The director shows sense & says he will delete the remarks. The politicos then withdraw their ban. All are happy.
Both the Politicos & Director have gained what they want - Publicity. In this melee, the ones who have been used very carefully are the members of that Particular Minority. Poor souls!
RE:RE:Aaja Nachle
by Web Monkey on Dec 02, 2007 01:49 PM Permalink
"There's no such thing as bad publicity!" It is a marketting axiom. But honestly I dont belive that the director inetnded it to create controversy. We are becoming a very intolerant society.
RE:Aaja Nachle
by Pat Thakur on Dec 02, 2007 05:21 PM Permalink
Ha, ha, ha. I have just mentioned the possibility of something & people have started branding me as "Dirty n Negative Minded." That means the latter half of my post is 100% true -
"Think rationally my friend, not with blind emotion. That's what we Indians are famous for, thinking with our hearts more than with our minds & in the end get screwed up."
RE:Aaja Nachle
by Pat Thakur on Dec 02, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
It's not 'bout me, that's the trend nowadays. Say whatever you might or cry foul, it has come to stay. Marketing is the byword of this Modern Age. Gone are those days when Quality was tops or people advocated quality. Nowadays, goods deemed unfit for even the "Pounding Chair" get sold off as "Gems". And in this case, many things are at stake including the Comeback Of Madhuri. The director will do anything in such a case to make it a resounding success. Think rationally my friend, not with blind emotion. That's what we Indians are famous for, thinking with our hearts more than with our minds & in the end get screwed up.
RE:RE:Aaja Nachle
by nikita bhatia on Dec 02, 2007 01:44 PM Permalink
No question of Trend . Aam admi is absouletely right . Negative people always feels negative and I have no doubt in my mind that you are among such dirty and negative people.
Tell that to all the so called lower caste people! I challenge any one of these people to give up their castes! Will they? They wont for the obvious benefits that they get by being belonging to a particular caste! Otherwise, except BJP, all the p[olitical parties will cease to exist!
RE:Challenge to all so called lower castes!
by Bhau Fakkad on Dec 02, 2007 01:24 PM Permalink
Victory to you. All logical replies are deleted. Its like playing cricket with Pakistan team in Pakistan. The most important player is the ampire who ensures Pak victory!
no one know me from caste just 5 km radious of my village, when i come out of that i am simple worker , whose has to work in factories or hotel just of cheap labour,, in hotel whole garwali pandit are working like cleaner dishwasher,, who cares for caste,, it is simple for politician and govt to divide the people and rule ,,,,, listening socalled protagonist of caste,, whole s c and st people should change their name to jonh mathew and maharana pratap,,,, no one stop them,,,,,
If the song had something derogatory against Brahmins, YFE would have been out on the streets on force. There would have been self immolations, fatvas and what not! Ditto for Muslims.
RE:If only anything was said against Brahmins
by MGR Fan on Dec 02, 2007 09:20 AM Permalink
DMK IN TAMILNADU daily does it against some castes, but no body cares.
So stop trying to spread lies here. We should be againt abusing any caste , be it a dalit or a bramin
RE:ban
by Bhau Fakkad on Dec 02, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
BJP will not support such a ban. They will have to lose- 1) Bangaroo Laxman 2) Advani for Hawala 3) Vajpayee for petrol & UTI ghotala 4) Shivraj Singh Chauhan for dumper ghotala 5) Judev for buying MPs 6) Many MPs who take money for asking questions in Parliament 7) Pramod Mahajan for....., Sorry, he is already lost!
Movies are for what? for Pure entermainment or for polytics? The much controversial sentence in the song comes as a IDIOM .. which means... somebody of lower caliber thinks himself as intelligent... And should not be taken Word by Word .. ( like we did for HEADLESS CHICKEN)....
How many people here have read and understood what their religious books have to say. How much good has a religion done till date than it has done bad. What are castes, who invented them? Do we need them today? How is religion and caste system helping my country to develop. Do you need a religion and a caste to be a good human being? (given that these days most don't read whats written in their religious books). Waiting for answers
RE:Caste and Religion
by MGR Fan on Dec 02, 2007 09:22 AM Permalink
Take Communist Ruled Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba etc... where atheism ruled/rules, and there is no religion, these countries are even worse in terms of human rights and oppression of the weak, try to prove that they were better humans. Everyone knows that Atheist Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan was the trigger for people like Bin Laden
All Yash Raj movies have come out duds this year. They had lot of hopes for this last one and now every reviewer in the industry has thrashed the movie. So what does the 'Yash Raj' marketing do... stir up controversy surrounding the movie...
Wah Raj... great publicity... now evryone is curious to know what kind of remarks are there in the movie to be banned in these states.....
people still call themselves sceduled caste/lower caste and then we talk about abolishing caste system. Its sad to see that till date I see a field on a government form asking my caste. For how many years will this continue and how is it helping India as a developing nation? Whats the purpose of having a caste? Way to go India!!
"decision was taken following reports from various quarters that there was "heavy resentment and anguish among the people belonging to Scheduled Caste community..."
but when protests against reservation policies of arjun singh were high, they did not think that their decision of increasing quotas wud result in unrest in the country.
