RE:Better Idea
by Angad on Aug 31, 2007 05:36 PM Permalink
Advice for Man Mohan Singh... Convert yourself along with Soniya , into Muslims ... and other advice is , send we all Hindus out of india , so that atleast there we can get a peace... The Congress will never do the Progress of Hindus...
RE:Better Idea
by ramesh kumar on Aug 31, 2007 05:59 PM Permalink
Good taunt on minority. first of all. let me brief you. in the beginnig of independence, muslim had around 20% dominance in govt jobs. now the situation is hardly 2% muslim are in govt jobs. why, immediate after independence SC/ST reservation impletemented. these SC/ST belongs to which religion. at least not from muslim. then came OBC, remaining caste of Hindu religion in QUOTA. at every ponit of quota only hindu are enjoying. so why u get shit when some one else supposed to get some relief. i don't understand. can u elaborate about it. if u really think minority should not enjoy any compensation then go to PM and ask to abolish SC/ST and OBC quota. i am sure u don't have ansewr. you dare, i m waiting for your answer.
RE:RE:Better Idea
by Rationalist on Aug 31, 2007 06:19 PM Permalink
During independence the criterial for govt jobs was less demanding as it is today. There were not many takers for them and also the popluation was low. Now that the people are queing up for them muslims are not being competent enough. It is not that govt is restricting them from entering.They got as much rights as others. So why they want this backdoor entry. This is nothing but accepting their incomptence.
If SC/ST and OBC quota is not the relief package. then pls i humbly request to all of u hindu brother to give it to muslim. after this they will never ever ask for anything after this. don't put any party in between. except few caste in hindu religion, all caste enjoying the quota since independence. now tell me which caste in muslim is enjoying any quota since independence. for Gujjar reservation FYI,Rajastahn BJP forwarded porposal for quota to Central govt. right.......
RE:Better Idea
by ramesh kumar on Aug 31, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
TIL DATE NO ONE STATE IN INDIA HAS PROVIDED ANY RESERVATION TO MUSLIM as a whole. reservation means the upliftment of poor. what muslim religion in india u r talknig about, which is totally socially and economically negelected by every govt and securing as vote bank since independent. if u see no one muslim is asking for any reservation. we believe in self respect. castes in hindu, are only enjoying the reservation for the last 60 years. so no comment on it. but when it comes to muslim this is the only remaining excuse u people have.
RE:Better Idea
by Angad on Aug 31, 2007 06:46 PM Permalink
but why the entire HINDUS are not getting Quota like Entire Muslims... why there is no separation in Muslim religion... why you don't give reservation to entire HINUDUS... take all the cast in HINDU Religion for the reservations...why should not BJP lead govt. forward the propoasl ? you should think that , without sending proposal also , they should have got the reservations... but no one thinks for those HINDUS... and thast why they need to protest...
RE:RE:RE:Better Idea
by ramesh kumar on Aug 31, 2007 06:26 PM Permalink
then what for SC/St and OBC quota. does competant people enjoy the quota or incompetant. tell me truely, if u get injured badly and u have option to go to either reserved category doctor or general category doctor. where will u go. when it come to muslim every one start shouting. but when gujjar shouting for reservation in Rajasthan no one of u could dare to say same words to them.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Better Idea
by Angad on Aug 31, 2007 06:32 PM Permalink
then why UPA Govt. has not yet replied to argument of gujjars.. the status of giving the Quota is in the Hands of UPA as of now, but they just want to give Quota to Muslims... and The Rajstan govt. has send the request to UPA... and also after protesting for the requirements they are not getting , but all Muslims are getting without protesting...
RE:Better Idea
by Angad on Aug 31, 2007 06:09 PM Permalink
Dear , see 1st of all , Muslims are no more Minority in INDIA..Tell me is there any university only for Hindu Students in INDIA...But WE have Aligrah Muslim University... Also tell me do the rich families in hindu religion get all the benefits the way all the rich families in the Muslim religion get , just because Muslims are Minority ... Tell me % of AAM ADMI , who are muslims.. i am damn sure that HINDU AAM ADMI ARE MORE THAN MUSLIM AAM ADMI...
RE:Better Idea
by ramesh kumar on Aug 31, 2007 06:23 PM Permalink
Have u ever visit AMU. first go and then comment. hindu are more than muslim in AMU. i can challenge you. there is hindu unversity like AMU is Banaras Hindu university. what benefit u r talking about. tell me which govt since independence provided any sort relief to package to muslim. tell me. i will answer u.
RE:Better Idea
by Angad on Aug 31, 2007 06:29 PM Permalink
Tell me any package that hindus have got ? Did Gujrat Hindus got Package after the riots .. are they getting Package , after the heavy floods , from last 3 years.. they are not getting , just because Congres govt. which is always in favor of Muslims is not ruling in Gujrat...
RE:Better Idea
by Virendra Singh on Aug 31, 2007 06:34 PM Permalink
People who don't do well themselves, start blaming others for their plight. In present time, a Hindu is certainly in much advantage than any Muslim.
i really appreciate your true words to accept. i have no intention to blame on any one. but u can see the things going in the chat. i believe in onething, god has given us two hands two legs etc. no need to beg for anything. but whenever anything related to muslims appeasement come. these some trailer who themsleves calls patriotic start shouting.r muslims not part of india. only hindu are.if u can enjoy reservation then why do u object if other is getting. I AM NOT COMMENTING YOU SPECIFICALLY. IT IS FOR OTHERS. DON'T MIND
List of % of total Indian population Hindu %u2013 80 % Muslims %u2013 14% Christians %u2013 2.3 % Sikhs %u2013 1.87 % Buddhist %u2013 0.8 % Jains %u2013 0.41 % Others %u2013 0.65 %
I%u2019ll suggest try to reduce 12% of Muslims population (by any means) and bring them in minority level before giving them minority status.
The TFR (Total number of children born per women ) according to Religion in 2001 was : Hindus - 2.27, Muslims - 3.06, Sikhs - 1.86, Christians - 2.06, Buddhists - 2.29, Jains - 1.50 , Animists and Others - 2.99, Tribals - 3.16, Scheduled Castes - 2.89.
Been a Muslims I know that call so called pseudo secular party want to exploit Muslims .They are playing a tawdry and deplorable religious based politics towards the minority of india.BJP at least have premise and yardstick even when they play hindutava based politics.
The social condition of Minority is deteriorating day by day. Congress wants to play the Minority card in every election by inflicting fear and chaos among the Minority towards Majority. Congress always advertises itself as priest of Minority in India. If congress is in vanguard in safeguarding the Minority of India then why most of Minority in India are still living below the average poverty and why congress has been carried out any program to life the social status of Muslims in India.
I condemn the terrorist attack because I am Indian first then Muslims. We Muslims don%u2019t want azfal to be protected by our secular party since he is involved in heinous crime of attacking my nation India. We don't require the Haj subsidies. What are we looking for is the balance among the allocation of resource among the Majority and Minority.
Congress party and its leader never try to address the real plight of Muslims in India. They call Bjp a communal party whereas they always exploit Muslims. Congress party is doing it deliberately cause they always want create animosity among the Muslims and Hindus in India so they can get the benefit out of hostility between the two community.
RE:Congress want to Exploit Muslims !
by kaleem shaikh on Aug 31, 2007 04:58 PM Permalink
Continue...
My fellow Muslims brother it time that we need to understand the clandestine motive of the pseudo secular party like congress and other. And need to stand up in order to safeguard our self.
RE:Congress want to Exploit Muslims !
by kaleem shaikh on Aug 31, 2007 05:27 PM Permalink
I never stated that muslim need to align with BJP. However i did highlight the exploitation of Muslims by Congress all this year after the achieve independent. Congress always want to divide Muslims on the bases of religion and creed. Congress want to Muslims to be hostile towards Hindu so they can divide Muslims and hindu congress in heritage those character and attribute from those filthy Britisher.
I made a humbly appeal to all my fellow muslims brother not to be the victim of those evil and malign people who want to dismantle our great nation
RE:Congress want to Exploit Muslims !
by hiral joshi on Aug 31, 2007 05:40 PM Permalink
Gujarat has many muslim leaders at district level. So muslims are not untouchable for BJP but BJP is made untouchable to muslims by pseudo secular parties.
RE:Congress want to Exploit Muslims !
by Virendra Singh on Aug 31, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
Obvisouly, to survive in Gujarat, either you need to be a Hindu or join BJP.
The caption/headlines for this article should have been "SACHAR FOLLOW UP: GOVERNMENT UNVEILS UNDUE PRIVILEGES FOR MUSLIMS". The Govt. is wasting its time on stupid issues like this. I can give a good suggestion to our govt. which will help them to waste more of its time - the names of states and cities in our country are being changed. I and many many hindus now really feel it is high time to change the name of our country from HINDUSTAN to ISLAMISTAN.
RE:Sachar follow-up: Government unveils steps for Muslims
by Virendra Singh on Aug 31, 2007 06:41 PM Permalink
India's name is Bharat and not Hindustan.
May be you should study before you start posting. Hindustan was name used by Arabs to refer to India.
congress is infact root cause of slow progress of India. The bureaucracy, corruption, communal tensions, special status, appeasing others are all GIVEN by congress, WHICH were followed later by other parties too to HAVE VOTE.
For votes they can do anything, can support chinese party of India (CPI) and can have italians, can free italians, can free ministers from corruption charges.......
We need a party which can consider all INDIANS EQUAL. EQULAITY, no division on caste basis. KICK CONGRESS JAI HIND
Equal opportunity for Muslims? What is their position now? Does it mean that illiterate Muslims will be given the jobs earmarked for educated non-Muslims? Considering entry to higher education from Madrassas (dungeons)? Muslims will be given preference (equal representation) in IB, RAW and Military Intelligence organizations? There is a lesson for Hindus - Until and unless Hindus wage war against state, destroy public property, break law or land and create disorder in the country, they are to lose everything.
RE:congress will covert India to an Islamic country soon
by iluvtaj on Aug 31, 2007 04:46 PM Permalink
congress is infact root cause of slow progress of India. The bureaucracy, corruption, communal tensions, special status, appeasing others are all GIVEN by congress, WHICH were followed later by other parties too to HAVE VOTE.
For votes they can do anything, can support chinese party of India (CPI) and can have italians, can free italians, can free ministers from corruption charges.......
We need a party which can consider all INDIANS EQUAL. EQULAITY, no division on caste basis. KICK CONGRESS JAI HIND
RE:congress will covert India to an Islamic country soon
by Muslim Khan on Aug 31, 2007 04:48 PM Permalink
pls control yourself,my friendly advice........that learn to live in a civilised society............and do not ever think of destroying government property or there wont be difference between you and a trouble maker.........AS IT IS THE WHOLE MUSLIM COMMUNITY ARE BRANDED TERRORIST.SO DONT COUNT WITH US.........
RE:congress will covert India to an Islamic country soon
by biz Narayan on Aug 31, 2007 05:18 PM Permalink
What do you think of small muslim communities in ghettoes who can be mobilized enmasse ?
Are you a Secularist? Then please answer these questions for yourself There are nearly 52 Muslim countries. Show one Muslim country where Hindus are extended the special rights that Muslims are accorded in India?
Show one country where the 85% majority craves for the indulgence of the 15% minority.
Show one Muslim country, which has a Non-Muslim as its President or Prime Minister.
Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a 'fatwa' against terrorists.
Hindu-majority Maharashtra, Bihar, Kerala, Pondicherry , etc. have in the past elected Muslims as CM%u2019s, Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the CM of Muslim - majority J&K?
Today Hindus are 85%. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and madrasas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loud speakers that there is no God except Allah?
When Hindus gave to Muslims 30% of Bharat for a song, why should Hindus now beg for their sacred places at Ayodhya, Mathura And Kashi?
Why Temple funds are spent for the welfare of Muslims and Christians, when they are free to spend their money in any way they like?
When uniform is made compulsory for school children, why there is no Uniform Civil Code for citizens?
In what way, J&K is different from Maharashtra, TamilNadu or UttarPradesh, to have Article 370?
Why Gandhiji objected to the decision of the cabinet and insisted that Somnath Temple should be reconstruc
RE:RE:r u secularist?Answer please
by Shambhu Mehta on Aug 31, 2007 04:55 PM Permalink
muslim appeasement was started by mr. m. k. gandhi. cong is just following his path
I am not doing any work in the office from past five .I am reading rediff comments & watching some sites. Thus I am spoiling my carrer & time. Who is responsible for This ? it's me .
Simillarly who are responsible for Muslims backwardness, Muslims them selves. Muslim intelligencia they never try to tell point the wrong things i their community.
When polio drops were being given in UP in some muslim dominated aareas, Their leaders told the people that The drops are being given to make the children impotent and so many muslims didn't get children polio vaccination.
