This all OK, What about family planning? they can continue to produce 10-12 childeren? marry 4 wifes? can increase percentage of muslims in India. During independance 1947, they were only 8% now they are 16% (they were 2crore, now 16 crore).
I think problem is muslims is they producing more people then they can support. That should be addressded first..
RE:Where is plan for Family planning?
by Niranjan BK on Aug 31, 2007 08:40 PM Permalink
I think you should check your Math skills. They were only 2.5 crore not 7 crore during 1947 (8% of 33Crore) Hindus were around 28-29crore. See the the percentage not the absolute number. If don't know the statistics go and check offical figures (Govt of India). This is not my numbers.
Again, if India going to be superpower not becuse of Muslims breading more. becuse of "More" educated people not becuse of croes of useles muslims.
Why poverty in muslims? just think about a min - because they are producing more children than can support, isn't it? Can you give good education for 12 kids or 2kids?
RE:Where is plan for Family planning?
by on Sep 01, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
who said muslim population in india is 15%. No its 90% after independence when Kafirs were unfertile. Many Muslims made Kafir Woman Fertile. I hope you understand
Muslims act as solid votebank, Hindus are divided - so, even after getting 35% of India as Islamic nation for Indian Muslims, our politicians are still pampering Muslims.
ONLY A UNITED INDIC VOTEBANK - Hindu, Sinkh, Buddhist, Jain can solve this issue.
RE:Muslims act as solid votebank, Hindus are divided - so, even after getting 35% of India as Islamic nation for Indian Muslims, our politicians are still pampering Muslims.
by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:18 PM Permalink
SO Muslims are stupid...And now you want the Hindus to follow them...Great solution.
Two wrongs do not make it right. Efforts should be to educate the electorate...
RE:Muslims act as solid votebank, Hindus are divided - so, even after getting 35% of India as Islamic nation for Indian Muslims, our politicians are still pampering Muslims.
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Aug 31, 2007 08:20 PM Permalink
Who says, Muslims are stupid?
I don;t. There is solid reason behind this fanaticism. Look at Bangladesh, Pakistan - 35% of India, now fully free of non-Muslims.
RE:Muslims act as solid votebank, Hindus are divided - so, even after getting 35% of India as Islamic nation for Indian Muslims, our politicians are still pampering Muslims.
by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:25 PM Permalink
That is abolutely wrong...Bangladesh is on the wrong Track...
RE:Muslims act as solid votebank, Hindus are divided - so, even after getting 35% of India as Islamic nation for Indian Muslims, our politicians are still pampering Muslims.
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Aug 31, 2007 08:32 PM Permalink
Does Bangladeshis care 2 hoots to your Gyana?
Just wait for few more decades, Bangladesh will expand, and consume West Bengal, Eastern India, and parts of North East as Muslim pop is growing 2 fast.
RE:Muslims act as solid votebank, Hindus are divided - so, even after getting 35% of India as Islamic nation for Indian Muslims, our politicians are still pampering Muslims.
by mounteverest on Sep 06, 2007 11:26 PM Permalink
The cause of Muslim poverty are: too many wives to look after too many kids to support non veg diet they eat Rs. 150 per kg food whereas most veg hindus eat Rs 6 a kg potatoes.
RE:RE:Muslims act as solid votebank, Hindus are divided - so, even after getting 35% of India as Islamic nation for Indian Muslims, our politicians are still pampering Muslims.
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Aug 31, 2007 08:34 PM Permalink
100% true.
hindus are stupid to say the least. Neither Media is helping them understand the situation.
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by Venkat on Sep 01, 2007 12:25 AM Permalink
imran u r correct
I am not doing any work in the office from past five .I am reading rediff comments & watching some sites. Thus I am spoiling my carrer & time. Who is responsible for This ? it's me .
Simillarly who are responsible for Muslims backwardness, Muslims them selves. Muslim intelligencia they never try to tell point the wrong things i their community.
When polio drops were being given in UP in some muslim dominated aareas, Their leaders told the people that The drops are being given to make the children impotent and so many muslims didn't get children polio vaccination.
PM's 15 point programme are there for last 20 years for minority. There is nothing new.These are all eye wash and repition by UPA govt.Muslims are being discriminated in govt jobs and promotion since independence, Sachar commitee has only confirmed it.Srikrishna commission even proved that even crime against them are not persued.You have a congress govt in Maharastra for last 3 years,why it did not persued Srikrisna report on crime against muslims.Out of some dozen muslim IAS officer in UP cadre in its 56 district not a single muslim was posted as DM during BJP NDA rule.WE have plenty of guidelines.Unless such guidelines have legal teeth, muslims will be discriminated in government and private sector as well except in a few companies like TATAs.These are votebank politics.By elevating one APJ or Ansari as President or VP muslim problem will not be solved.
RE:Eye wash and Hog wash
by RamRamRam on Aug 31, 2007 07:54 PM Permalink
Majority of Indians do not discriminate Muslims. There are some uneasy feeling against Muslims because of the terrorist attack caused by them. We all see you as our Friends. You must stop crying like a baby and get into the main streamline.
Opportunities are available for every one, it is up to the individual to make use of it. STOP GOING TO MADRASSA which brain washes youths mind. Go to Government schools which will give you a better education than a Madrassa. Government schools are not bad, many of my friends studied in Government schools are living abroad.
First you are Indian then a Muslim. How many Muslims in North India Feel they are Indians? I can understand the hardship that the previous generation has gone through due to Partition of India & Pakistan. This should not stop you from growing and improve your living conditions. Muslims in North India should look at South Indian Muslims and learn how to improve their living conditions.
STOP GIVING BIRTH TO 10 or more Kids, Have Lesser number of Kids and Spend money for the betterment of them. You can improve only by looking ahead with positive thinking.
RE:Eye wash and Hog wash
by MUHAMMED AKHTAR on Aug 31, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
Osama or terrorism in India started after Babri Masjid demolition or 9/11.Muslims are being discriminated since independence.Talk logic no nonsense debate please.Come with fact and figure.Srikrishna and Sachars are not muslims
RE:RE:Eye wash and Hog wash
by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:12 PM Permalink
If that was trues, ISLAM IS THE REASON FOR WARS AND DESTRUCTION, then the world should have been in perfect harmony before the Birth of the Prophet...BUT HISTORY tells us otherwise...
Mythological wars Battle of Zhuolu about 2500BC Kurukshetra War, based on warfare in the Kuru kingdom of ancient India, ca. 1200-900 BC Trojan War, based on events of ca. 1200 BC ca. 2500-2450 BC - Border wars between Umma and Lagash ca. 2330 - conquest of Sumer by Lugalzagesi 2300 BC - conquests of Sargon of Akkad ca. 1720 BC - Kassite attacks on Babylon 1650-1600 BC - conquests of Hattusili I and Mursili I 1600 BC - Hyksos conquest of Egypt 1600 BC - Xia-Shang War in China 1430-1350 BC - Kaska invasions of Hatti 1100 BC - Sea Peoples harrying the Mediterranean; Dorian invasion 1046 BC - Shang-Zhou War in China. 800 BC - Messenians Wars 722 BC - 481 BC Wars of the Chinese Spring and Autumn Period 701 BC - Sennacherib's campaigns in the Near East 8th century BC - 7th century BC - Lelantine War 499 BC - 479 BC Persian Wars 480 BC - 307 BC Sicilian Wars 480 BC First Sicilian War 410 BC - 340 BC Second Sicilian War 315 BC - 307 BC Third Sicilian War 475 BC - 221 BC Wars of Warring States Period in China 431 BC - 404 BC Peloponnesian War 395 BC - 387 BC Corinthian War 343 BC - 290 BC Samnite Wars between Rome and Samnium 343 BC - 341 BC First Samnite War 327 BC - 304 BC Second Samnite War 298 BC - 290 BC Third Samnite War
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by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:12 PM Permalink
334 BC - 323 BC Wars of Alexander the Great 323 BC - 322 BC Lamian War 323 BC - 280 BC Wars of the Diadochi 274 BC-200 BC Syrian Wars 274 BC - 271 BC First Syrian War 260 BC - 255 BC Second Syrian War 245 BC - 241 BC Third Syrian War 219 BC - 217 BC Fourth Syrian War 202 BC - 200 BC Fifth Syrian War 267 BC - 261 BC Chremonidean War 265 BC - 263 BC Kalinga War 264 BC - 146 BC Punic Wars between Rome and Carthage 264 BC - 241 BC First Punic War 218 BC - 202 BC Second Punic War 149 BC - 146 BC Third Punic War 215 BC - 168 BC Macedonian Wars 215 BC - 205 BC First Macedonian War 200 BC - 196 BC Second Macedonian War 171 BC - 168 BC Third Macedonian War 209 BC - 88 BC Parthian - Seleucid Wars 206 BC - 202 BC Chu-Han contention in China 191 BC - 188 BC Roman-Syrian War 135 BC - 71 BC Roman Servile Wars 135 BC - 132 BC First Servile War 104 BC - 100 BC Second Servile War
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by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:13 PM Permalink
73 BC - 71 BC Third Servile War or Spartacist Rebellion 122 BC - 105 BC Jugurthine War 91 BC - 88 BC Social War 88 BC - 87 BC Sulla's first civil war 89 BC - 63 BC Mithridatic Wars 89 BC - 85 BC First Mithridatic War 83 BC - 82 BC Second Mithridatic War 74 BC - 63 BC Third Mithridatic War 82 BC - 81 BC Sulla's second civil war 58 BC - 50 BC Julius Caesar's Gallic Wars 55 BC - 54 BC Julius Caesar's Roman invasion of Britain 53 BC - 51 BC Parthian War of Marcus Licinius Crassus 49 BC - 45 BC Caesar's civil war 44 BC - 30 BC Roman Civil War 44 BC Post-Caesarian civil war 44 BC - 42 BC The Liberators' civil war 44 BC - 36 BC Sicilian revolt 41 BC - 40 BC Fulvia's civil war 32 BC - 30 BC Antony's civil war 40 BC - 37 BC Parthian invasion on Syria and Asia Minor 36 BC - 33 BC Marc Anthony' s invasion on Parthian Empire
RE:RE:Eye wash and Hog wash
by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
Discrimination is Human...I agree. But it is important how we fight it. Violence and terrorism is not the right way.
We fight it by putting in more effort w.r.t education. Making it a priority and working Hard to overcome obstacles...
What happened after 9/11. 3000 americans died...But over 100,000 innocent Muslims died...
RE:Eye wash and Hog wash
by vivek singh on Aug 31, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
Abe Mulle ki awalad -- i m hindu aur mujhe sarkar se koi facility nahi milla jitna diya hai mere bap ne diya n now im into job because i deserve n there r lot of muslim in india having good job and r doing good in the field not because ushe koi special reservation tha just because they work hard and achived it... shallo rona chodo -- bikhari ki terah bhik manga chodo --
RE:RE:Eye wash and Hog wash
by prashant sunidhi on Aug 31, 2007 08:39 PM Permalink
Tumhare kaum ko Bhik mangane ki aadat pad gayi hai. Doosri kaum mein bhi garib log hai jo kabhi raat ko jibharke khana nahi kha paatey. lekin woh apne bacchon ko municipal school bhejte hai.....aur un mein se kai bacche kafi aagey tarakki bhi kar lete hai....kyon ?? Iccha shakti...aatma samman.... Aap ke kaum mein iccha shakyi mar chuki hai....Madarrasa hi aap ke liye nursery/school/college/degree hai.....toh aap kaise aagey badhoge. Reservation se aapka koi bhala nahi hoga.....aap ke hi jaati ke log paise de-de kar ...rishwat dekar ....garib logo ka seat hadap lenge.
RE:Eye wash and Hog wash
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Aug 31, 2007 08:10 PM Permalink
Lo! Here again, as a true muslim, you are justifying Islamic terrorism against India.
Why not Hindus do the same? Babri demolished because of 400,000 Kashmiris driven out? Crores of Hindus killed/driven out from Bangladesh.
FACT OF THE MATTER IS: ISLAMIC TERRORISM, SEPARATISM IS VERY PART OF ITS RELIGIOUS MOORINGS.
RE:Eye wash and Hog wash
by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:05 PM Permalink
Agree with you on Most issues... Being an Indian and being a Muslim are NOT 2 opposing things. They go hand in hand.
More reservations ... all sorts .. caste, religion and may be region also in future...
Break the country apart and separate all the citizens on the basis of caste,religion,region.. .. what a mess...
When will this Congress folks and Commies learn to keep India's intrest above all ? When will the govt. view all as one citziens instead of viewing tham under caste a, religion b ?
How long the reservations can continue ? It has been 60 years and they were supposed to expire in 60's but was extended repeatedly...
Present govt. is perpetuating this mistake by extending the reservation to religion in addition to caste..
