RE:Why Bilal became a terrorist
by Sahadevan KK on Sep 01, 2007 01:40 PM Permalink
Vidharbha Pakage cheques are bounched. After 10 months, Sachaar Committee report does not find any light.
RE:Whose fault is it that muslims are backward?
by mahendra sapa on Aug 31, 2007 09:54 PM Permalink
So what's the solution. Jihad against 'Secular Hindus'????
But we are punks? What can we do? We are too busy with our daily routines.
RSS created BJP to politically deal with "Secular Forces", but they also surrendered.
One should not be surprised, if there is another demand for muslim nation from within India. Keep in mind, that majority of muslims are in favour of India, but minority % muslims (fundamentalist) voice is very strons and eventually 'll be heard our own "Secular Hindus". Hence another Islamic Republic from within India.
So, does any one have answer to the question I posed in the first line?
RE:RE:Whose fault is it that muslims are backward?
by mahendra dev on Sep 01, 2007 07:17 AM Permalink
HINDUS have these traits 1 they are hypocraites 2 they are morally cowards 3 they are narcisstic 4 they have no sense of hitorry 5 they donot provide any formal religious education to their children 6 love of money overrides all other concern 7 they have no central body to speak on their behalf remember who one shankrachari was treated dare treat bukhari of jama masjid delhi in same way. 8 division on caste basis,gujjars and meenas fighting in rajasthan 9 not keeping any arms to protect their depending on corrupt police and govt to come to their rescue 10 they would rather buy a plasma tv you cannot find a good quality knife to cut vegetables here in rifle association of america is very powerful body bearing arms is a fundamental right in so called bharta country a man gets 6 years to keep ak 47 you can buy one in this land of the brave and free'ie usa do you need more data then ask .many persons will educate you .
RE:Whose fault is it that muslims are backward?
by RamRamRam on Aug 31, 2007 09:56 PM Permalink
Hinduism should die. The Bhramins are cruel monsters, they need only money and seva from non-bhramins for their survival. They do not wish to share the teachings of veda, Carnatic Music and Bharatha Naatiaym with other castes. If you attempt to learn these they will kill your instinct by abusing with their evil look and words. HORRIBLE PEOPLE, VERY FEW BHRAMINS ARE NICE AND HAVE OPEN MIND.
RE:Whose fault is it that muslims are backward?
by Pritish Nagaraj on Aug 31, 2007 10:08 PM Permalink
If so called Brahmins are Cruel why should Hinduism die? ..thats crap logic.
1> Brahmins these days hardly know scriptures
2> As per the scriptures, one cannot declare himself a Brahmana if his ancestors/father were Brahmanas.
3> You dont need them anymore to learn scriptures. There are so many saints out to teach the REAL VEDIC Scriptures to the world, Like Swamy Prabhupad which has millions of followers from Siberia till amazon and Russia to America.
http://www.stephen-knapp.com - check this person's website. He can tell us more abt our religion than our parents/teacher ever could.
RE:Whose fault is it that muslims are backward?
by RamRamRam on Aug 31, 2007 10:27 PM Permalink
Bhramins are talented I am not denying that, but they are not open minded. Only Bhramins know Veda, Carnatic Music and Bharathanaatiyam you have to learn from them only. If you join any class there will be Bhramin student too. There is so much discrimination while imparting knowldege to a bhramin student and a non-bhramin student. You guys cannot understand what I talk about. If you go through it, you will certainly hate them. Sometime it feel to Hate Hindusim because of these Morons. This is main reason for conversions and not for Money alone....
RE:Whose fault is it that muslims are backward?
by Pritish Nagaraj on Aug 31, 2007 10:42 PM Permalink
I dont know where you live and what are the conditions out there, but urbans have already moved away from this mentality. I've my friend right here in US who's parents arrived recently from India and his father has called for students anyone who is interested in learning Veda.
Anyway I dont think you are yet getting the real point abt Brahminical concept.
My friend, everybody understands this. But Hindus are fools, and badly divided politically along caste and language which is allowing Muslims to derive all these pampering.
Media is helping neither, as its mostly owned by secular elite who has little idea what constitutes India. Also, anti-Hindu forces have invested heavily into media.
All these are creating explosive mix. And bound to be back with vengence.
RE:Whose fault is it that muslims are backward?
by mahendra dev on Sep 01, 2007 06:47 AM Permalink
this man rajinder sachar is son of bhimsen sachar ,who was member of pakistani consituent assembly and stayed back with the idea of becoming another jogindernath mandal but true pakistanis threatened him and he flew to delhi from karachi. nationalist moslem nehru rewarded him with chief ministership of punjab people in pujab used to call him kachar [MULE]this man is true to his seed .why blame him he is pucca HARA''''''MI
Fellow Countrymen, It is time for us to take a serious look at the state of our Nation. Let focus on the 3 major political blocks, what they stand for and what have they contributed in recent times.
1. Congress %u2013 It is a Neo-LEFT or Center %u2013 LEFT party. Portrays itself as a %u201CSecular%u201D party. Policies have been less productive if not outright disaster. It is a party that is used to being in power. As they say, %u201CPower corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely%u201D. The congress is filled with corruption and %u201CBabu-ism%u201D. The way it is structured, it is not suited to be a party that will bring about a drastic change. Example: It can have the driver%u2019s license computerized. But still you will pay Rs. 1000 as bribe.
2. BJP/SS/VHP %u2013 Came to prominence as an alternative to the Congress. But symbolism took over substance. They soon realized that to stay in power, they have to follow in the footsteps of Congress. This is a %u201CNeo %u2013 Right%u201D or %u201CCenter %u2013 RIGHT%u201D option, but in symbolism ONLY. Nationalism is limited to Anti %u2013 Pakistan rhetoric. BJP has contributed towards alienating the Indian Muslims (Muslims are to be blamed as well). There is no Policy difference between the Congress and the BJP. Question to the common man, was there a change in your life when BJP was in power compared to the Congress? Example: It can have the driver%u2019s license computerized. You will still pay Rs. 1000 as bribe but with an Indian Flag in front of the office.
RE:Symbolism Vs Substance
by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
3. LEFT %u2013 It symbolizes what a governing body should NOT be. Socialism/Communism is a failed economic policy. Looks great on paper, but opposite human tendencies. They have nothing to offer other than criticism. Example: It will never computerize the process. But you will pay Rs. 2000 as bribe because the government does not pay them well.
Now, what is Nationalism and what do I mean by Symbolism Vs Substance? We have defined Nationalism as flag hoisting, national anthem, shouting slogans, supporting India in cricket matches, calling the nation as %u201CBharat Maata%u201D, etc. These things are just symbols of Nationalism. There is no substance behind them. We do not think once on our vote for our representatives. Based on party lines we blindly vote. We are comfortable with any kind of fraud, be it tax or income. We don%u2019t think once before offering bribe to a government official or taking bribe. We are always ready to destroy state property to emphasize our displeasure towards others. We are comfortable to spit or urinate in public places. This is the substance of Nationalism.
RE:RE:Symbolism Vs Substance
by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 09:29 PM Permalink
Till we identify this distinction and implement in our lives, we should not expect any change in the conduct of our elected representatives. We are so naïve that we will vote for a candidate just because he is from a certain party or makes some ridiculous promise we all know he will not fulfill. We need people in the government who realize that this is Public Service and the role of government is LIMITED. And we will find those people only after we correct our priorities.
RE:RE:But I am happy as a BJP supporter: Blind Muslim pamering like Sachar has given huge ammo to BJP.
by mahendra dev on Sep 01, 2007 07:31 AM Permalink
bjp has always betrayed the cause of hindus recollect even a single act where they stood for hindus .they requested moslem votes in name of mushraff of pakistan hajj subsidy was increased j&kcontinued as a seperate entity they acted as b team of congress.enjoying all the perks of office
we both passed out 10th together. I dont know.. what happened then.. one of my friend started spending more time at the local mosque.
the other friend of mine was with me in engineering also. he got into IIM-bangalore. I could not, inspite of being a hindu. My friend had worked really hard.
the other friend is a fruitseller now. His cart can be found near the local mosque. He often says that muslims do not have opportunity.
Frankly, it is good that everybody progresses. But why special treatment. It is muslims who stayed away from right path. If they want they can be APJ or similar, but they want to SALLU the bully and Dawood the crimianal. (Majority of them) that is the line they choose. SO WHAT MUSLIMS DO NEED IS HONEST AND LOYAL APPROACH TO THE LIFE AND INDIA. No need to get angry (usual with Muslims) about this loyalty. They only want to be loyal becoz now they think that India can be made islamic due to Congress. SO BEWARE, THE WOLF IS OUT IN OPEN. THEIR PEOPLE IN RIGHT PLACES IN GOVT., ARE ENSURING THE IMPLIMENTATION OF ALL THE ADVANTAGE,WHILE THE CONGRESSI HINDU CHHAKKAS STAND,WATCH AND EVEN CLAP WHILE THEIR MOTHER-RACE IS SUBJECTED TO A SURE HUMILATION AND DISADVANTAGE. THANK YOU MMS !! YOUR SMILE IS SO WONDERFUL.
