RE:Dirt
by Raj Royale on Aug 30, 2007 10:49 AM Permalink
Because he doesnt lie in those states. And yes. Because he (and all of us) pays taxes which those two states suck up and give nothing in return to our country.
RE:RE:Dirt
by PRADYUMNA PANDEY on Aug 30, 2007 11:26 AM Permalink
All salaried people pay taxes. IT dept ensures that. Business owners evade taxes. which states have highest percentage of business owners. Gujarat, Maharashtra, Punjab, etc. Why dont you look up relevant data on govt website to find out who sucks up how much taxes. It will be revealing. Crime is rampant everywhere. Money related crime is highest in in rich cities like Delhi. Telgi and Harshad mehta are not from UP. UP has mostly revenge oriented murders, etc. Most of what outsiders think of UP is media hype created by people who have never been to UP. People from all states are living in UP, including Punjabis, Begalis, marathis, keralites, etc. No one ever tells people from other states to leave UP. I have lived in UP for so many years. I worked with marathis, bengalis, keralites, punjabis, etc. They were never made to feel like outsiders. As it is, all indians are welcome in UP. ONLY in UP can you find INDIANS. Rest of India is full of non-indians. Marathis, Gujaratis, punjabis, malyalis go out and settle in foreign countries but protest if people from UP come to their states. Hypocritical!!. Grow up and accept your nationality. Also as someone suggested, remove UP and Bihar. Do it arithmatically and see how developed India will become. You will be surprised as you will remain as underdeveloped as before. Ask world bank whether whole of INDIA has become a developed country except for UP and Bihar. Ask the Americans whether they distinguish Indians based on their states
RE:Dirt
by Raj Royale on Aug 30, 2007 12:03 PM Permalink
My passionate friend from UP, Americans do not distinguish Indians based on their states. They see beggars when they come here. They dont know these beggars are Biharis and Hindis. When they come to India and get robbed, they dont know most criminals in North India are Hindis. Even the underworld from Mumbai has mostly UP ppl in their ranks. When their women get stared at, while sightseeing at the Taj Mahal, they dont know that these are UPites with their great traditions (while they keep their women in purdah-or burn them). They dont know most ppl driving rickshaws and hawking fake goods are Biharis.
As far as accepting other ppl is concerned, when your own language is accepted as national language, it helps being more 'accommodating'. Also if your state is living out on doles of taxes being given by other states, it helps your nationalism even more. I doubt if all the 'work' you do in UP & Bihar woruld contribute to a metalled road on the state highway between Lucknow and Balia.
RE:Dirt
by KALKI on Aug 30, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
HAVING ARMS IS NOT BAD. GOOD OR BAD IS THE USE YOU PUT THEM TO. USE OF ARMS IS GOOD FOR DEFENDING SELF OR THOSE WHO ARE WEAK. IT IS BAD IF YOU USE TO EXPLOIT OTHERS. OPEN YOUR MIND. THINK CLEAR.
RE:Dirt
by PRADYUMNA PANDEY on Aug 30, 2007 12:17 PM Permalink
I was talking about Indiand who g oto settle in america. Any way one can argue bsed on facts. Not on opinions such as yours. Time changes everything. Just as India is catching up with developed countries, poor states shall overtake teh rest. Here's to wishing more floods, earthquakes and riots to Maharashtra and Gujarat to drive out all business from there. After this if you feel like replying give your phone numbr. Why bore others. RIGHT??
RE:Dirt
by Raj Royale on Aug 30, 2007 12:27 PM Permalink
Earthquakes couldnt damage Gujarat. Floods are an yearly feature. Theres an additional feature UP doesnt have.......drought. Gujarat has a different spirit. You can wish all the earthquakes you want on these states. They will not stoop to that level. They have spirit. Some states do not. They only have guns.
RE:RE:Dirt
by KALKI on Aug 30, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
DO NOT FIGHT FOR LANGUAGE, DO NOT FIGHT FOR COMMUNITY, DO NOT FIGHT FOR STATE, DO NOT FIGHT FOR STATE NOR FOR NATIONALITY. FIGHT FOR THAT WHICH IS RIGHTEOUS. FIGHT FOR TRUTH. FIGHT FOR JUSTICE. ONLY THAT WAR IS HOLY. THAT IS DHARMA.
RE:Dirt
by KALKI on Aug 30, 2007 12:35 PM Permalink
WAIT FOR 10 YEARS. YOU SHALL SEE A DIFFERENT INDIA IN A DIFFERENT WORLD. AND YES FINISH THESE PETTY SQUABBLES.
RE:Dirt
by urs forever on Aug 30, 2007 10:59 AM Permalink
India IS Bihar and UP. If not for these two states, you will not have food, minerals and labor. The only irony is that people spend more at spa than they do for food.
Do not just go by taxes, be aware of what you need to survive eventually.
RE:RE:Dirt
by jason jim on Aug 30, 2007 11:47 AM Permalink
Oh yea! Food and labor.. No worries mate :) we'll import it, rather giving a damn for stinky Biharis UPietes ^_^ with Babri and Ayodhya shits..Holy drains and Maoist barrels.. Well' I give you an option if i were the PM.. Stop doing mass orgy in those two states see hou you can live civilized :) btw! You folks dont know anything better than kidnapping Delhities and demanding ransom.. That should be fun ^_^
RE:RE:Dirt
by Ravalnath Shende on Aug 30, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
DOn't worry about our food, we will manage ourselves. Try and manage without our tax contribution. Ha Ha Ha.
RE:Dirt
by Deepak on Aug 30, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
UP and bihar have given things like Ram and Gautam. They have also given more notable things like something that was being shown in all TV channels over the last two days.
RE:Dirt
by KALKI on Aug 30, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
Do not worry. Lord Kalki is also coming from UP to start the cleansing act. Obviously, he will start from UP, move to whole of India and then the world.
RE:Dirt
by PRADYUMNA PANDEY on Aug 30, 2007 11:36 AM Permalink
I got what you said. Compare wit hGujarat riots, Bombay riots, etc. UP has no such thing as JKLF, ULFA, naxalites, LTTE. UP has never and will never talk of seccession from the Indian state. UP stands for INDIA.
RE:Dirt
by Deepak on Aug 30, 2007 11:40 AM Permalink
When they have such a highly matured system of public justice, they may not need JKLF, ULFA, LTTE, etc .... Sad to say that, some of the very gruesome acts of violence against humanity happen in places that gave some of the most popular icons to the world.
RE:Dirt
by PRADYUMNA PANDEY on Aug 30, 2007 11:43 AM Permalink
What do you mean our tax contribution. Are you talking of BOmbay's tax contribution. You should know that it is high because all companies HQs are located in Bombay. For example, I was working in a fertiliser plant in UP but the HOffice of the company was in Bombay. So our efforts in UP were reflected as taxes in Bombay. Thsi si so for all the companies Head offices in Mumbai. Remove MUmbai's contribution from Maharashtra's contribution and then see the figure, The whole country invests in BOMBAY stock exchange. BOMBAY is national commercial capital. You cannot include BOMBAY in Maharashtra. GO fugure out who pays what to whom???
RE:RE:RE:RE:Dirt
by KALKI on Aug 30, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
your presence here shows that at least you are not contributing to national economy. GO back to work. THIS IS AN ORDER
RE:Dirt
by Yash The Magical on Aug 30, 2007 11:19 AM Permalink
Mr.Dirt, You have named yourself very aptly, and regarding getting rid of UP and Bihar. Open your Eyes and see the Govt facts. These two states are major contributor to Indian Economy.
- UP is ranked 7th in Corruption (Much below Karnataka which is at 4th.)
- UP and Punjab collectively feed India, they are the Food Bowl of India.
- UP has highest employment ration in india.
- Bihar & Jharkhand are the biggest contributor in Coal, Iron and Minerals segment, without which most of our industry cant survive.
- And regarding guns, Yeah there are Guns, we took to guns way back to fight the invaders. While you was polishing the shoes of British%u2019s.
So don%u2019t think that sitting in Kerala or somewhere else in south you can pass a judgment on these two states.
RE:Dirt
by jason jim on Aug 30, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
@ Yash :) Are u drunk? ha ha ha.. See hou pathetic one bends to show of the Bihari Hump! Sorry mate..whatever you say.. Thos etwo states deserve to be in shit bin ^_^
RE:Fire Arms
by sharique nezami on Aug 30, 2007 10:37 AM Permalink
has any body checked bal thakrays house ? i m sure you will find pile of unathourized arms . dont forget to check his back office too.
The article header is misleading. India has only 4 firearms per 100 civilians..far far less than most countries. Even Pakistan has 3 times more firearms.
RE:statistics are a devil
by Gurminder Saroya on Aug 30, 2007 10:55 AM Permalink
true thats why indian Govt should supply more arms and ammunation to civilains. BJP & other parties should support my clause, dnt we want the pakistan to be beaten
RE:what about unofficial arms data
by cole sami on Aug 30, 2007 10:27 AM Permalink
very true... even my frnd has a DESI KATTA.. he has just passed his BE.. he hails from "siwan" (shahabuddin's territory )
Police are ALWAYS busy ... collecting bribes from all small and big is a massive job ... You all must appreciate that... If citizen groups volunteer to collect it for them ... they will have more time for policing.
Believe it or not the police extract haftas even from shoeshine boys, your neighbourhood corner mochi and even from small girls selling flowers to you at the signals ... most of these poor people barely earn enough for just one meal a day.
The rogues then spend it on drinks, gambling and owning dance bars. After drinks they decide to rape educated people... Read full at ....
Since , India is a poor country , its civilians do not have more money to purchase more GUNS. Otherwise , India would have been much ahead of USA in the Civilains with GUNS List.
this is of no consequences. Density is extremely low even if it matters. What should have been highlighted is the number of weapons that has been pumped in illigally by so called protectors of human rights
This figures should be take into consideration in terms of percentage of population. India with 16 percent of world land manages 16 percent of world population. This problems and natural.
Indians have .12 bore guns and revolvers max. Pakistanis & middle east countries having AK47's Americans M-16... Europeans sub machine guns and mouzers latin's AK's africans LMG's,AK's,Rocket launchers... ...what can you compare
RE:Absurd???
by Govind Wattal on Aug 30, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
you bet ! I am 45, having been trying to get a weapon licence since i was eligible ( 21 ? ) , no luck so far.