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RE:RE:test
by shaik hussain on Aug 28, 2007 08:04 PM  Permalink
Imran,

You have no right to put such things.
Islam doesn't give you the right to retort to such things.
You should love your religion. BUT should also respect others.

If MonkeyMan claims what he has written is true. Then he's accountable for his deeds.

Almighty is the one to justify if he's right. Do not put youself low by reacting to everything you come across here.

Hold onto your patience.

THNX

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RE:test
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 08:07 PM  Permalink
But these are facts...reported by Hindu researchers...I am just pasting them here...

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RE:test
by Pavan on Aug 28, 2007 08:16 PM  Permalink
Hey Imran,
Can your community ever change ?, i mean can your community ever come out of poverty , and religious extermism, you are trying to prove hinduism is evil, what islam ?, have you noticed around world which is the most hated community ?, don t you think by putting your time constructively you can help your community progress ?, i guess not, it seems you too are blinded by religion

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RE:Masood I'm 100% right about pedophilia
by Nass on Aug 28, 2007 07:54 PM  Permalink
this buddha guy knows more islam than any muslim.
either he is a muslim or just at a critical point of coverting.
keep it up man.
you are doing so much research on islam.thats good.
you want to clarify all ur doubts before converting.
keep it up

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RE:Masood I'm 100% right about pedophilia
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:57 PM  Permalink
he married mother ayesha at age of 9 and consumated at 13
the arab girls at that time and even us girls like jennifer capraitini all mature faster due to hot and tropical climates
he also married widows at age of 40 and 30
older to him
he is not a boker as u claim
plz sir show respect


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RE:Veera
by Nass on Aug 28, 2007 07:48 PM  Permalink
by the time they do all this they will bcom true muslims

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RE:Veera
by Nass on Aug 28, 2007 07:58 PM  Permalink
buddha really i feel either you are not happy in what u follow or just at a critical point of converting.
so much research on islam.
so many doubts.
u will bcom a good muslim.keep it up my friend

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RE:Veera
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 07:58 PM  Permalink
Bhuddha,
Come out of these shadows and see the true light of Islam...

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RE:Veera
by Pavan on Aug 28, 2007 08:19 PM  Permalink
Lol..
Yah right, see the true light of islam, i.e blow yourself into pieces to kill kafirs, lol, or be in the run from police and securtiy authorities for the rest of your life, or stay in a 3 rd century rules in saudi or pakistan.
Have some sense dude, religion is like poison,too much of it, you will perish

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RE:Veera
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 07:48 PM  Permalink
Cleaniness is a pert of Islam...How would you know..people who have Anal sex and also intercourse when a woman is having her periods...
Worse than animals...

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RE:Nass for you
by Nass on Aug 28, 2007 07:42 PM  Permalink
buddha ive been reading ur comments.

the only thing i have for u is prayers.

may god give u peace of mind.

you are disturbed budda.really.i pity ur family.

bjp rss vhp bajrang dal is not going to do anygood for anyone.if they are offered power today and asked to bcom muslims i have no dpubt they will jump for it.

neither is any muslim party any good .

my point is have a clean mind and dont torture urself

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Interesting
by Nass on Aug 28, 2007 07:13 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

One of the most interesting things to notice after the bomb blasts is that if you look at list of blasts that occured since last year

malegon outside dargah(only muslims died)
mecca masjid(obviously muslims died)
now hyderabad where majority of people on roads in these areas are muslims
I wonder which muslim terrorist organisation wants to kill just does selective killing of muslims.


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RE:RE:Interesting
by Nass on Aug 28, 2007 07:30 PM  Permalink
the problem is not muslims for Hindus fundamentals or the religion islam.
the issue for them is that they feel stupid following thier religion which is a myth.
thier would have been no word like hindu if they were oppressed like muslims are right now and inspite of all this oppression muslim faith is getting stronger and more stronger which is evident by the current facts that islam is the fastest growing religion all over the world.
its an asset to whoever follows it.
if you have it u dont need anything

you are showing some websites everytime.
gujarat was live on tv and everywhere else.there are no websites

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RE:Interesting
by Nass on Aug 28, 2007 07:25 PM  Permalink
u talk about india and not elsewhere where the political situation is entirely different

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RE:Interesting
by ABCD on Aug 28, 2007 07:45 PM  Permalink
the way u r talking, i think u are attending al-qaida camps.

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I APPEAL TO ALL BJP AND RSS FOLLOWERS
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:03 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

MAY UR TRIBE INCREASE
I SHALL NOT DEABTE WITH U REGARDING TEMPLES AND PANDISTS
OF COURSE AYODHA BEING RAMJI S BIRTH PLACE
RAM TEMPLES ARE A MUST THERE
BUT NOT WITH KILLINGS OR RIOTS
EVEN MARYADA PURSHOTTAM RAMJI WOULD HAVE CONDEMMED THIS

HE TOOK ARMS AGAISNT VALI WITH HELP OF SUGREEV AND KILLED VALI THE ELDER BROTEHR OF SUGREEV AND ALSO KILLED RAVANA WHO WAS SHIVA DEVOTEEE
BUT HE DID THIS FOR SAKE OF DHARMA ND JUSTICE
SIMILLARLY MOHAMMED TOOK SWORD FOR SAME REASONS
SUPREME COURT HAD PUT A STAY ON THE DISPUTED STRUCTURE BUT WHY WAS LAW BROKEN BY RSS AND VHP
AREENT VHP BREAKERS OF LAW
SO WOULD U CALL AL THOSE WHO SUPPORTED AND HELPED DEMOLITION AS UNLAWFUL CITIZENS AND THUS CRIMINALS OF INDIAN LAW
NO U WOULD NOT
U WOULD JUSTIFY AS SAYING IT WAS A REVENGE OF BABUR ETC
BUT LAW IS LAW RIGHT BUT WE MUSLIMS ARE APPELAING TO U R CONSCINCE PROTECT US
AND THUS PROTECT ALL OF INDIAas u seem to be very kind soul
if u read the history of mohammed u will see the kindest soul who ever steped on this earth
some muslims are evil
mohammed is the kindest soul
he forgave a person who killed his uncle and ate the liver



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RE:RE:I APPEAL TO ALL BJP AND RSS FOLLOWERS
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 07:23 PM  Permalink
Veera,
What was the biggest industry in Japan after WW-II ?
It was SEX TRADE...Even today, woman from Iraq are facing the same dilemma...
So don't give me this crap!!!

Second thing,
The prophet encouraged his followers to marry the widows...No matter how cruel you may think this was, it was a better and more practical solution than prostitution.

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RE:I APPEAL TO ALL BJP AND RSS FOLLOWERS
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 07:40 PM  Permalink
War is a fact of life...Muslism, Hindus, Christians, Jews, athiest and also Bhuddha have fought battles...

Men die and woman are left with no protection...
- Japanese invasion of China (Chinese, NK, SK and philipine woman were forced into slavery by the japanese)
(http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007-03/09/content_823128.htm)
- Expansion of Roman Empire
- Germany after WW-I and WW-II
- Expansion of the British Empire

what is a better solution for the widows ?

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RE:I APPEAL TO ALL BJP AND RSS FOLLOWERS
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:19 PM  Permalink
america is already bombign iraq mosques and children day and night
also afganistan every hr
israel is doing it ever day

mohaamed acted only for justice
when force was absoultely neccesary and the rules of war allowed booty at that time
ram ji shot an arow agasinst vali from behind a wall hiding in it


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RE:RE:I APPEAL TO ALL BJP AND RSS FOLLOWERS
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:34 PM  Permalink
i totally accept buddha was one of the kindestand best souls not easy to compare him
and deny his peaceful life
mohammed was in fact more peaceful he was the the only beacon of peace at that time
he turned pagan arabs into leaders of the world
he was kindest soul belive me
u being a buddhist or hindu does not change facts either


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RE:I APPEAL TO ALL BJP AND RSS FOLLOWERS
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:54 PM  Permalink
u r mistaken veera
i hope all ur mistaken ideas heal faster
and u fogive us
british invaded india
and lots of other places
ruled the world
alexander did it
romans did it
japan did it
so will hidnus take revenge on all
most now r licking the british boots in london despite the racist british elite


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RE:RE:I APPEAL TO ALL BJP AND RSS FOLLOWERS
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 08:08 PM  Permalink
why do hidnus the pray at ajmer dargah and haji ali and 100s of dargahs and muslim saints
coz islam spread by peace via sufis and saints
whom u all admire and even prostatrte daiy


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RE:I APPEAL TO ALL BJP AND RSS FOLLOWERS
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 08:07 PM  Permalink
veera crusaders also destroyed and occuoied muslims religious lands
even today jews and israel doing it
so do not single a muslim power of that time
for carnage


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RE:I APPEAL TO ALL BJP AND RSS FOLLOWERS
by Nass on Aug 28, 2007 07:34 PM  Permalink
ramji is a word used by kids when they are 3-4 yrs old.they feel good.fantasies.
its a good story


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RE:I APPEAL TO ALL BJP AND RSS FOLLOWERS
by Nass on Aug 28, 2007 07:20 PM  Permalink
the problem is not muslims for them or the religion islam.
the issue for them is that they feel stupid following thier religion which is a myth.
thier would have been no word like hindu if they were oppressed like muslims are right now and inspite of all this oppression muslim faith is getting stronger and more stronger which is evident by the current facts that islam is the fastest growing religion all over the world.
its an asset to whoever follows it.
if you have it u dont need anything

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Some Suggestions on QandA post...
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 07:01 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

QandA,
I totally agree with your line of thinking and here are some suggestions,

- Have achievable goals and define areas where you can have an influence (Country is too big.Need to start with Society/Colony)
- Set up a group, a watch dog group, for your local Police station. Make sure that there will be no bribes taken/given in your area
- Do that same with all government institutes (Passport, Drivers license, Ration, etc)
- Insist on safety and cleaniness
- Summon your local MLA/MP/Corporator for local issues

Having said this, we need to understand the underlying problem. It is the Government. I am not saying that the Government is creating problems, but no matter how efficient and honest the government, it is not the right institute to solve these problems

As an example, Water supply. It is practically free in the some areas and some areas hardly get any. There is rampant corruption. Corruption and discrimination is a fabric of Government. No country is an exception.

Compare that we a private entity
Do you pay a bribe to get a cell phone ?
Isn't there more accountability in Billing ?
Isn't there a better customer support group ?
Don't you have different options ?
Aren't the prices falling all the time ?

Competion within the private sector is the best way to solve problems and creat jobs. It brings about accountability

So i always say, Reject candidates/parties that want to expand the role of Government. It is the wrong tool to solve our problems

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RE:Some Suggestions on QandA post...
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:27 PM  Permalink
helo buddha
our prophet was a kind and grt soul
kindly speak after knwoinf facts
we respect ramji and krishna kahnhai even after he romanced hundrreds in ras leelas


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RE:Some Suggestions on QandA post...
by blue wrox on Aug 28, 2007 07:35 PM  Permalink
ramji and krishnakannayya never killed innocents to convert or marry a kid.How can you even compare you idiot.Its like comparing milk to blood.

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RE:Some Suggestions on QandA post...
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:47 PM  Permalink
we still repect ram and krishn shal nevr abuse them as u abuse our beloved prophet
we admire nd revere jsus christ as well
may be thats the reason we r hated as we spread mesage of love and equality
u r showing that u have more venom against truth
surely u r evil
but i shall admire ur feelings
u have a rite to say
i hope u see light and revert back to vedic religion
and become a grt scholar and philosopher like swami vivekaanda and ramakrishna paramhamas and hope vishnu and brahma forgive u for insulting prophet mohammed


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RE:Some Suggestions on QandA post...
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 07:41 PM  Permalink
When are you planning to revert back to Islam...Inshallah soon...Keep me posted.

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WE R INDIANS AS MUCH AS YOU R
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:01 PM  Permalink 

I AM INDIAN VERY FAR FROM TAMIL NADU

BUT CLOSE AT HEART TO RED FORT AND QUTB MINAR AND TAJ

WHICH BY THE WAY ARE BUILT BY MOGULS INVADERS AND STILL WE HOIST OUR FLAG THERE WITH PRIDE

OUR MUSLIM CULTURE IS AS TALL AS QUTB

AS BEAUTIFUL AS TAJ

ADN AS STRONG AND RESLIENT AS RED FORT

ALL BIASED OPNIONS WOULD NOT DAMAGE OUR BELOVED ASSCOSTIONS WITH THESE HISTORY OF OURS AND U ALSO SING SARE JAHAN SE ACCHA

WRITTEN BY A MUSLIM ISLAMIC PPOET

SIR IQBAL



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RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 06:34 PM  Permalink
What makes you think that you are a believer ?

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RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 07:18 PM  Permalink
Thats my point...
No one can claim to be a believer or call anyone else a Non-Believer...

Only Allah will decide that...So if any Muslim thinks that Allah considers him a believer, think again. Humans should not decide that.

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RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by on Aug 28, 2007 06:36 PM  Permalink
Arggh .. the religion of peace seems too horrific with detail descrptions of death. Faith should teach you how to live and let live. God knows how many people will be killed before this horrific religion will cease to exist.

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by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 06:42 PM  Permalink
The concept of heaven in Islam is similar to that found in Judaism and Christianity. The Qur'an contains many references to an afterlife in Eden for those who do good deeds. Heaven itself is commonly described in the Qu'ran in verse 35 of Surah Al-Ra%u2019d: "The parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised! Beneath it flow rivers. Perpetual is the fruits thereof and the shade therein. Such is the End of the Righteous; and the end of the unbelievers is the Fire, wherein a person dwells forever." Since Islam rejects the concept of original sin, Muslims believe that all human beings are born pure and will naturally turn to God, but it is their environment and lack of will power which influences them to choose ungodly ways of life. In Islam, therefore, a child who dies automatically goes to heaven, regardless of the religion of his or her parents. The highest level of heaven is Firdaws (%u0641%u0631%u062F%u0648%u0633)- Pardis (%u067E%u0631%u062F%u06CC%u0633), which is where the prophets, the martyrs and the most truthful and pious people will dwell.[12]

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RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by on Aug 28, 2007 06:54 PM  Permalink
Forget about such trivial things as to which religion describes heaven more beautifully than others.

The base of any religion should be to show people how to live life more beautifully and let others live simulateneously.

It is surprising people follow this religion of hatred.

If one endorses hatered then it is human nature to hate that person too. Simply put if you preach hatred you will be hated too.

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by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 06:59 PM  Permalink
i too agree with most of ur statements and alos grateful to ur very polite and unbiased opinions
in the land of buddha only people like u are saving grace for us mulsims
u seem to have a human heart unlike so many reduiff readers and togadias amogst us
MAY UR TRIBE INCREASE
I SHALL NOT DEABTE WITH U REGARDING TEMPLES AND PANDISTS
OF COURSE AYODHA BEING RAMJI S BIRTH PLACE
RAM TEMPLES ARE A MUST THERE
BUT NOT WITH KILLINGS OR RIOTS
EVEN MARYADA PURSHOTTAM RAMJI WOULD HAVE CONDEMMED THIS

HE TOOK ARMS AGAISNT VALI WITH HELP OF SUGREEV AND KILLED VALI THE ELDER BROTEHR OF SUGREEV AND ALSO KILLED RAVANA WHO WAS SHIVA DEVOTEEE
BUT HE DID THIS FOR SAKE OF DHARMA ND JUSTICE
SIMILLARLY MOHAMMED TOOK SWORD FOR SAME REASONS
SUPREME COURT HAD PUT A STAY ON THE DISPUTED STRUCTURE BUT WHY WAS LAW BROKEN BY RSS AND VHP
AREENT VHP BREAKERS OF LAW
SO WOULD U CALL AL THOSE WHO SUPPORTED AND HELPED DEMOLITION AS UNLAWFUL CITIZENS AND THUS CRIMINALS OF INDIAN LAW
NO U WOULD NOT
U WOULD JUSTIFY AS SAYING IT WAS A REVENGE OF BABUR ETC
BUT LAW IS LAW RIGHT BUT WE MUSLIMS ARE APPELAING TO U R CONSCINCE PROTECT US
AND THUS PROTECT ALL OF INDIAas u seem to be very kind soul
if u read the history of mohammed u will see the kindest soul who ever steped on this earth
some muslims are evil
mohammed is the kindest soul
he forgave a person who killed his uncle and ate the liv



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RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by Ashwin Reddy on Aug 28, 2007 07:28 PM  Permalink
Masood, no one was killed in Ayodhya. Its the bomb blasts that happened in Mumbai that claimed lives. As for the Temple, I am a moderate Hindu and dont care a bit about Temples. But Babur built his mosque there just to hurt Hindu sentiments. And if u r so fair minded, why didnt the Muslims give the Temple site up and relocate their Mosque, as everyone knew that site was where Rama was born.
How would u feel if there is a temple built after breaking ur Kaaba Stone?
I never had any Animosity towards Muslims. But I do have a problem with ppl saying that they are Muslims first and Indians later. Now that will mean that u will suppot Pakistan in destabilising India and I will definitely not accept that.

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RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:37 PM  Permalink
people fled from ayodha in terror before it was attacked by 100 and thousands of well educated and elite hindu youth
mumbai riots did happen before blasts
u can deny that
as u always do
deny that hindus never ever killed muslims
since 1947
deny it
and pamper ur ego
truth is suppressed by u all
we shall try to relocate our mosque
if we were given peace
but how can we negiotte under a gun


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RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 06:58 PM  Permalink
too agree with most of ur statements and alos grateful to ur very polite and unbiased opinions
in the land of buddha only people like u are saving grace for us mulsims
u seem to have a human heart unlike so many reduiff readers and togadias amogst us
MAY UR TRIBE INCREASE
I SHALL NOT DEABTE WITH U REGARDING TEMPLES AND PANDISTS
OF COURSE AYODHA BEING RAMJI S BIRTH PLACE
RAM TEMPLES ARE A MUST THERE
BUT NOT WITH KILLINGS OR RIOTS
EVEN MARYADA PURSHOTTAM RAMJI WOULD HAVE CONDEMMED THIS

HE TOOK ARMS AGAISNT VALI WITH HELP OF SUGREEV AND KILLED VALI THE ELDER BROTEHR OF SUGREEV AND ALSO KILLED RAVANA WHO WAS SHIVA DEVOTEEE
BUT HE DID THIS FOR SAKE OF DHARMA ND JUSTICE
SIMILLARLY MOHAMMED TOOK SWORD FOR SAME REASONS
SUPREME COURT HAD PUT A STAY ON THE DISPUTED STRUCTURE BUT WHY WAS LAW BROKEN BY RSS AND VHP
AREENT VHP BREAKERS OF LAW
SO WOULD U CALL AL THOSE WHO SUPPORTED AND HELPED DEMOLITION AS UNLAWFUL CITIZENS AND THUS CRIMINALS OF INDIAN LAW
NO U WOULD NOT
U WOULD JUSTIFY AS SAYING IT WAS A REVENGE OF BABUR ETC
BUT LAW IS LAW RIGHT BUT WE MUSLIMS ARE APPELAING TO U R CONSCINCE PROTECT US
AND THUS PROTECT ALL OF INDIAas u seem to be very kind soul
if u read the history of mohammed u will see the kindest soul who ever steped on this earth
some muslims are evil
mohammed is the kindest soul
he forgave a person who killed his uncle and ate the liv



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RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 06:39 PM  Permalink
It depends what verses of the Quran you recite...The Quran talks about punishment and also the fruits of heaven...Why don't my friends talk about that...

Should there be no accountability ???

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by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:00 PM  Permalink
I AM INDIAN VERY FAR FROM TAMIL NADU
BUT CLOSE AT HEART TO RED FORT AND QUTB MINAR AND TAJ
WHICH BY THE WAY ARE BUILT BY MOGULS INVADERS AND STILL WE HOIST OUR FLAG THERE WITH PRIDE
OUR MUSLIM CULTURE IS AS TALL AS QUTB
AS BEAUTIFUL AS TAJ
ADN AS STRONG AND RESLIENT AS RED FORT
ALL BIASED OPNIONS WOULD NOT DAMAGE OUR BELOVED ASSCOSTIONS WITH THESE HISTORY OF OURS AND U ALSO SING SARE JAHAN SE ACCHA
WRITTEN BY A MUSLIM ISLAMIC PPOET
SIR IQBAL


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RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 06:54 PM  Permalink
THANKS SIR
I APPEAL TO SANTAN DHARMA TO HAVE MERCY AND LOVE
TOWARDS US MUSLIMS WE R NOT ALL BAD
ADN NOTALL THAT BAD
AS WE R MADE OUT TO BE
LET US LIVE IN YOUR COUNTRY AS HUMANS WITH RESPECT ADN JOBS
LET US ALL CONTRIBUTE AS SANIAS MIRZAS AND IRFAN PATHSNA AND ZAHEER KHANS AND APJ KALAMS AND TIPU SULTAN AND SRK AND ALL GREAT MUSLIMS ACTORS AND PLAYERS OF HOCKEY AND FOORTBALL
WHO BROUGHT LAURELS TO INDIA
LIKE MD SHAHID OF HOCKEY
SYED MODI OF BADMINTON
APJ IN ROCKETS AND NUCLAER
ADN SANIA
AND IRFAN
ADN MD AZHARUDDIN
AND PATAUDI


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RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by ABCD on Aug 28, 2007 08:10 PM  Permalink
why u dont try to become like them, rather than pleading for mercy...do it & show.
though muslims they love india, and that is the reason they r getting so much respect from each indian.
rather than saying islam u say indian, there is no problem in saying tht ur indian & ur doing for india.
there is no religion in the world the first priority is nationality.
if we keep on fighting for hinduism & islam, there will be a day when even bangladesh will invade us.
fight against pakistan, bangladesh,china, afganistan rather than fighting against ourselves

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RE:RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by Seshadri on Aug 28, 2007 07:22 PM  Permalink
Well said... muslims are nothing but parasites!!!

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RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:14 PM  Permalink
apk kalam also reads namazz and quran


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by Seshadri on Aug 28, 2007 07:24 PM  Permalink
@Imran...

then osama bin laden must be the most important disciple of allah...

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by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 07:20 PM  Permalink
You can read both...It is fine in Islam. I read the Bible as well...What you believe is what is important to Allah.

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RE:RE:Police Have NO Time for Policing ... All Time Goes In Collecting Hafta's
by QandA on Aug 28, 2007 06:35 PM  Permalink
Please please everybody knows these facts. The debate has to shift to as to how to solve the problems of policing. We have to disturb the existing POWER structure. That's our only hope. Read at my suggestion menytioned below..

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RE:Police Have NO Time for Policing ... All Time Goes In Collecting Hafta's
by indiman on Aug 28, 2007 06:18 PM  Permalink
very true, more than the money part , time wasted in corruption is enormous, it prevents people from doing their daily jobs.

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