Hi All, Its nothing to do with religion, if you read and uderstand the teachings of Prophet Mohammad, he does NOT teach hate, rather he only give us the message of love from God. We should not forget that, if you see history there are worst peoples in every religion. only people are bad, and religion is NEVER bad as long as anybody follow it with full faith. Regards
Hi All, Its nothing to do with religion, if you read and uderstand the teachings of Prophet Mohammad, he does teach hate, rather he only give us the message from God. We should not forget that, if you see history there are worst peoples in every religion. only people are bad, and religion is NEVER bad as long as anybody follow it with full faith. Regards
Don't worry Sallu baby, your religion will excuse you for committing any crime against humans and animals. Hmmm, wonder how that religion grows... Ask the recent converts, they also happen to be recent criminals. Some famous examples include Cassius Clay, Mike Tyson, Michael Jackson (soon to be), etc. In teh USA, most of the converts to that religion are black, poor, and in jail. They catch them in the most vulnerable stage.
RE:Sallu
by UmamaheswaraRao C on Aug 25, 2007 11:26 AM Permalink
It is idiotic to label a crime to islam, hindu, or to any other religion. This an ill informed, inhuman, sectarian HATE campaign. History is full of crimes done in the name of religion, not even one religion is devoid of. Please try to understand a human being ,who commits a crime, and try to find out a liberal, broadminded mechanism to set people right. Being in the films, I know certain realities of film life. Most of the artistes who act as heroes particularly live in closed worlds of continuous praise and worship. They are denied of realities of life. Like the illusory characters they play[and of course people enjoy]they live in illusions though they behave humble in public interaction at times. I see many times they behave in imbalance between illusion and reality.They act as super human beings. In Salman's case of hunting, this can be perceived. Even in Sanjay Dutt's case I do not see any malice but only exhibtion of illusory heroism.
RE:Sallu
by bill on Aug 26, 2007 07:41 AM Permalink
Mr. Umamaheshwar rao, Please, we have all gone that high road and got burned. Every Hindu understands the perspective you propose, however, you only have to look at what happened to Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Lebanon, Egypt. These countries were the most enlightened, especially the Persian civilization before they were converted at gun point by the marauding Muslim fanatics. The mistake these civilizations made was the same as you are making, which is being way too enlightened. Hindus too are going that wrong route by being excessively tolerant. Therefore, please wake up and be practical, being a tolerant Hindu means the entire nation will sooner than later be converted at gun point. We are headed the same way some of the most enlightened civilizations went.
RE:Sallu
by Jehan Mir on Aug 25, 2007 09:09 AM Permalink
Muhammad Ali converted at age 21,and he has never been in jail. None of them were poor ,when they converted.
They converted because what they had was not working and there was nothing better around.
RE:Sallu
by New Yorker on Aug 25, 2007 09:24 AM Permalink
Ali eats pork and also Tyson,where he had a local mulla converting him. Time is running our for Islam converts to get a better deal. ITS the Western invasion of Iraq and middle east and west slowly coming upwith more efficient oil consumuning engines.
Oil is the engine of Islam. What was Islam before oil was found in middle east? With no godliness just ideology-like Hitler, Stalin or Castro, seldom any ideology (oh a religion like islam) will last. It hates humanity to its core.
So don't have a very good feeling. Khans were all Afgans in their origins and they were all Bhuddist (remember the Buddha status Talibans destroyed), when they all prospered. Now they are in stone age. Time for a change.
Some points a really good-like equality for all or helping the poors, but that is also done by charities. Religion needs love for humanity and respect for all. Without the real blessings of God, it will vanish like any other ideologies.
RE:Sallu
by bill on Aug 25, 2007 07:27 PM Permalink
Dr. Mir, Ali was 21 when he converted to avoid the Vietnam draft. Under the guise of religion, he avoided the draft and thus broke the US law. He was convicted for breaking the law and was jailed. He was a convicted criminal!
RE:RE:Sallu
by bill on Aug 25, 2007 07:36 PM Permalink
Dr. Mir, One more thing. They were all born in abject poverty and unfortunatley were not raised well. Typical of some unfortunate souls raised in ghettos, they all had the tendency to break laws. So when they did break big-time laws, they converted as they were told that islam will forgive their law-breaking behaviors.
It is obvious why crazy Jacko (Micheal Jackson) moved to Qutar. He knows he can continue to be a pedophile and get away with it! In the US, he is considered by many, if not most, a criminal. If you recall, he settled the charges of pedophelia(raping little boys) int eh us.
RE:Sallu
by New Yorker on Aug 25, 2007 09:28 AM Permalink
Salman is like Sanjay Dutt. Sanju's father is Hindu,mother muslim. Salman's mother is Hindu Jat and father muslim. They live in cosmopilitan Bombay in Hindu India. So its more a law then a eligion that will decide. Salman was against Animal rights, not something anti-India. So it could be much lighter than anything to do with Bollywood stars or common Indian have.
Oil was discovered couple of hundred years ago,but long before that Muslims reigned in Spain for 800 years,spread Islam through other parts of Europe,Russia,Central Asia and China,Far East not to speak of India.
In India,Islam spread by zealous missionary works of Saints (Aulaya ) like Hazrat Data Ganj Bakh Ali Hijwari(RA),Hazrat Nizam-udin Aulaya (RA),Hazrat Moeen -ud -din Chisti, Gharib Nawaz( RA )to name just a few and numerous others throughout the World.
Islam is based on solid footing,which will never be shaken.Its not based on superstition,trickery,folklore,irrational theologies and concepts.
Its based on direct,one to one relationship with God,rationality,purity of thought and action and kind,considerate,equal,fair relationship with others.
Thats how Islam spread, not because of oil engines. Its like saying Christianity is going to spread in India because of import of nuclear energy from USA.
RE:Sallu
by ROMESH KUMAR on Aug 25, 2007 04:10 PM Permalink
Mr Mir, it is logical but not truth and ground reality.Conversion to islam all over the world was directly and indirectly on gun point.It was just a micro-percentage which saints and sufis etc have contributed to.In Indian subcontinent it was agressive casteism (as a result of misinterpretation of holy scriptures by brahamins)which had already fractured,weakened and divided the society to the advantage of invaders. I agree that islam did not spread because of oil engines but it has been helping fanatic islamic ideology to survive and spread.Look at the rulers of oil-rich states.They are not even remotely related to islam or human values in reality.But they are producing and funding more and more fanatics.But good news is that last and final battle on this planet has started on 9/11 and every positive thinking human being knows who will emerge victorious which is none other than non-fanatics.It is non-fanatic people,nations and ideology which will survive and rule and supposed to do so.
RE:Salman should not be jailed.
by ruby luvu on Aug 25, 2007 06:58 PM Permalink
salman should not be jailed. There are lot of peoples who done lot of frauds and keep well image in society. salman was treated like this only because he is famous.
It would not accomplish anything to lock him up for 5 years for killing an animal, where billions of animals are sacrificed everyday to support the food chain throughout the World.
The only difference is that he unintentionally happen to kill a chinkara,an endangered specie in the dead of the night. It could have been some other animal. How would he have known in the darkness? I believe the requisite intent to commit crime is lacking here, and conviction should not have been upheld.
However,it appears that the appropriate sentence would be to fine him heavily perhapes equal to his gross income for a year. This money can be used to support the protection programs for such species and for general public awareness and education.
Salman is just as much of an endangered specie as Chinkara and deserves as much respect. Punish him but don't kill him. Five years in jail would kill him mentally and physically .
RE:Salman , An Endangered Specie
by ROMESH KUMAR on Aug 25, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
Mr Mir, It is agreeable and understandable if he really did not know both that killing of chinkara is unlawful and hurting religious sentiments of people.But if a person of national and international fame has done so knowing fullywell then he deserves punishment to serve as a deterent.
This is excellent judgement, let this nuts understand value of life. No one has given rights to Human to kill other. Even that for fun??? do they understand pain of animals. this psycho dont understand what's vaue of life. let him spend five years.
The only fact that Black Buck's are endangered? I know it's the LAW to safe guard endangered species but i don't see difference between killing a Goat and Black Buck.
RE:What is the difference between killing a Goat and Black Buck?
by Sandeep on Aug 25, 2007 05:04 AM Permalink
Not much difference between killing any animal for that matter. Problem is it is illegal to kill endangered animals and list includes these deers and tigers, lions, cheetah's etc. So by killing these, he did illegal thing. I think though, 5 years looks too harsh. Let him off after 1-2years and a big fine and only allow him to go near national parks with permit.
Hello all 'converts'(muslims) in Indian subcontinent, your brothers like Aman,Abdullah and many other likeminded use to write about islamic rule,rape of Hindu women etc by muslims for 1000 years which is true.That is when,how and why some greedy,power hungry,traitors, pimps,weak, down trodden,selfish,opportunists, opressed,depressed ,heartless people of Indian subcontinent converted to islam.You are successors and great grand children of that 'class' of hindus of indian subcontinent.Remaining people of this region are the great grandchildren of ones who did not sccumb came what may, who did not compromise their selfrespect and dignity at any cost,who prefered death or exile to surrender,who sacrificed all worldly comforts for a cause. So it is enough for Aman,Abdullah and likeminded ones to know WHO ARE WHO.I am not against any religion but this is only to make this kind of characters to introspect who have been writing anything anyhow to hurt good billion people all over the world.This kind of characters are the ones who have defamed islam all over the world. Shame on you traitors of Indian subcontinent and islam as well.You are known as fake muslims among real islamic world.Muslim employers in saudi (seat of islam) prefer to employ nonmuslim Indians to you.Why ? Because traitor is a traitor,he can not be trusted by the beneficiary even. Try to introspect and be thankful and grateful to secular India.Disregard criminals and lapses in system.
