If good economy was that better than good weapons, then India would never have been a colony. India was not poor when it was colonised, but it was without unity and primitive in technology.
I want to ask a few questions to PM Singh:
1. You/your officials did not even take India's nuclear experts into confidence initially when the deal was being started to be discussed in public. They had to use th emedia to even bring out their objections. Seeing this, how can India be sure that you are bringing this deal to be beneficial to India. The fact that it is "best deal that could come out", should it be really to India's benefit just for that reason?
2. To give an example of US perfidity towards its own "allies", looking at the current credit problems that US is facing, much of the bad-loans were sold to the banks and financial institutions of its own allies' institutions, which they are beginning to find out now. How can Indians be sure that "bad-loans" of its foriegn policies won't be sold to India so US can stay out of trouble.
3. You keep repeating that India will be able to test its weapons based on its national interests. Does this mean that the US won;t be able to pressurise us when all the Uranium would be bought from them or tyheir allies? On the same point, do you mean that the Indian national interests would have changed by then to keep the electricity going by the reactors and not as much to keep the threats to its integrity at bay?
Medha, if India goes your way, there would be no industry, no development, no better education...You are a believer of a crooked philosophy. If you want to do something good, just fund a poor village children for their education, instead of doing nonsense things like hunger-strike and so on.. You were near some dam, I heard. Just go there and get lost.
Solar Energy was invented almost a century back. The Solar Energy from sun is available from the day world started, then wtf we did all these years telling 10 hrs power cuts.
RE:Medha.. read this article
by on Aug 24, 2007 04:11 AM Permalink
Medha
India being a democracy.. in the true sense.. do u think.. if the entire nation was asked to vote on the nuclear deal as it is now.. will it pass or not ? People like the commies who use the limited number of seats they have to control the government .. will they succeed in stopping such a polarised vote ? Do u think the actual BJP activist.. the common man will oppose the deal? Take a break and go to some place like Himalayas or something.. and please dont write such good for nothing articles.. We dont need people like u in India..
I am born and bought up in Kerala and I am not ashamed to say that the communists have converted the state into a pseudo intellectual minded pro-left place. I have been also interested in the SFI movement when I was a teen and participated in some of the activities, but thank god I had something called "Ability to think" and I decided to get out of it. A place like Kannur in Kerala is converted into a terror bastion by the left and they use terror tactics to do this. I wish Medha was lucky enough to be a housewife with 3 kids and a working husband in the Kannur area. So much for your social activism. I used to respect you at one time.. but since I know that you have convoluted logic and support the political opportunists like the communists.. I am happy to say that I dont even respect you as much as I respect Benazir Bhutto.
There is a simple equation to the communist thought process.. Rich India -- > People have good jobs --> No one has time for political activism and hold the red flag --> People are happy --> No more poor --> No need for communism --> What happens to you then Medha ? You dont get the limelite again ? so .. prevent India from developing --> More poor --> Communists get stronger. People like me vows to you Medha.. one day we will see that there is no communism left in India. As for your co-authors they are not worth a comment. What do u think will be the result of a nationwide opinion poll on the nuclear deal ? Let me know your guess.
RE:Medha - Please read this !!
by shiva on Aug 24, 2007 06:27 AM Permalink
I have not only seen communism at work in Kerala, but also seen big leaders in action.
Though it started as a fight against injustice, it soon meant defending the rights of unionised workers and ultimately the poor and disadvantaged suffered. The bandhs etc became the order of the day and the poor had to endure extreme hardship. The enterprising soon left Kerala knowing nothing was possible. Once you live through these, anywhere else becomes heaven. Now "Gods own country" thrives on the enterprise of its people, despite the blackmail of the leftists, who recycle old theories and slogans.
The comparison with China is striking. The leaders led by Deng Xia Peng swore by communism, but went ahead to generate wealth. There are 150,000 having wealth of $ 5 million and growing.
The recent scare regarding toys, garments, food etc has made coutries like US to exhort China to implement proper wage policies, benefits to its labour and stop exploiting them. What an irony?
The Chinese leaders believe in creating wealth and distribute later. Our commies want all to be poor to justify their theories and hold on to power. They want all to be in misery forever.
We are dependent on 70% on the Middle East for energy. Even optimistic projections say only 30% of energy can be met by sources other than oil. All these are swept under the carpet by our commies who are high on drama and zilch on solutions.
Soon reality and dire predicamant will stare at us again.
You have got to give the person her due. She has empowered village folks to make sure that things get done in the village.
If she is a Mao sympathiser, then that is a real shame. You could do the things she did without being infected by the communist germ. Otherwise, I think she has done a little bit for the village.
You can be a volunteer too. I had mooted an "ADOPT YOUR VILLAGE" idea before.
We need more and more people like her to go to villages and raise the standard of living. To raise level of the basic amenities of people there and to increase their technology awareness.
We need to demonstrate to them how to use technology to solve their problems and make their lives better. We need to help them tune into the outside world.
If she is filling their heads with Marxist crap then that is shameful.
The knee-jerk reaction of the left against technological collaboration with the west is a shameful and ignorant attitude. An educated villager in India would actually support such a deal.
Everything from Fiber Optics to prosthetics has made great advances in the US. It would be a shame not to tap into this.
BTW check out this site: http://www.namastesolar.com
We need All Village oriented NGOs to be technology oriented instead of ideology oriented.
RE:Of the three people Arun Roy has done some good.
by on Aug 24, 2007 04:06 AM Permalink
Medha, readers
I am born and bought up in Kerala and I am not ashamed to say that the communists have converted the state into a pseudo intellectual minded pro-left place. I have been also interested in the SFI movement when I was a teen and participated in some of the activities, but thank god I had something called "Ability to think" and I decided to get out of it. A place like Kannur in Kerala is converted into a terror bastion by the left and they use terror tactics to do this. I wish Medha was lucky enough to be a housewife with 3 kids and a working husband in the Kannur area. So much for your social activism. I used to respect you at one time.. but since I know that you have convoluted logic and support the political opportunists like the communists.. I am happy to say that I dont even respect you as much as I respect Benazir Bhutto.
There is a simple equation to the communist thought process.. Rich India -- > People have good jobs --> No one has time for political activism and hold the red flag --> People are happy --> No more poor --> No need for communism --> What happens to you then Medha ? You dont get the limelite again ? so .. prevent India from developing --> More poor --> Communists get stronger. People like me vows to you Medha.. one day we will see that there is no communism left in India. As for your co-authors they are not worth a comment. What do u think will be the result of a nationwide opinion poll on the nuclear deal ? Let me know your guess.
RE:Of the three people Arun Roy has done some good.
by shiva on Aug 24, 2007 06:54 AM Permalink
Mr Vishnu Sharma,
Everyone has to be given his/her due including our leftists brothers. The concept of communism was good, but became utopian due to the nature of man.
How practical are we? How to make progress without the basic ingredient, energy to power our needs. Even the optimists admit, there are are no practical alternatives to fossil fuels at the moment. They can maximum meet about 30% of world energy needs by 2050. India is 70% dependent on Middle East oil and it can be used to blackmail us any time. MM Singh tries very hard to get Iranian gas through Afganistan & Pakistan. That shows the options that are available to us. US is dead against this, but all the same we keep trying. Nobody seems bothered about the fate of our huge investments and repurcussions on this deal, which is highly risky.
We have to have practical solutions than hope that status quo will solve our problems. No country is really independent and we have to make best use of the options. We should get help from wherever, without being too rigid to put off well meaning overtures. Let us admit we have benefited from other coutries like others, from USA even.
RE:Of the three people Arun Roy has done some good.
by Vishnu Sharma on Aug 24, 2007 07:10 AM Permalink
Precisely, Being rigid does not help. The US has only helped us before with grain and later with FDI when our economy opened up.
RE:Of the three people Arun Roy has done some good.
by shiva on Aug 24, 2007 07:25 AM Permalink
Mr Vishnu Sharma,
What a contrast our leftists are compared to the Chinese? They just stand in the way of any progress and initiative. Time Medha aligned herself with people who believe in progress.
Despite suffering so much at the hands of Japan, ten times Japanese companies have invested in China. All the major US companies, including big retailers have huge investments there. Even highly cutting edge technological companies are doing world class manufacturing in China.
THe US navy chief yesterday thanked China for reciprocating his gesture in allowing his visit to top secret areas. Now, if MM Singh had done that, the repurcussions by our leftists can only be imagined.
RE:Left who supported 1962 chinese invasion are the anti-nationals
by on Aug 24, 2007 04:03 AM Permalink
Medha, readers
I am born and bought up in Kerala and I am not ashamed to say that the communists have converted the state into a pseudo intellectual minded pro-left place. I have been also interested in the SFI movement when I was a teen and participated in some of the activities, but thank god I had something called "Ability to think" and I decided to get out of it. A place like Kannur in Kerala is converted into a terror bastion by the left and they use terror tactics to do this. I wish Medha was lucky enough to be a housewife with 3 kids and a working husband in the Kannur area. So much for your social activism. I used to respect you at one time.. but since I know that you have convoluted logic and support the political opportunists like the communists.. I am happy to say that I dont even respect you as much as I respect Benazir Bhutto.
There is a simple equation to the communist thought process.. Rich India -- > People have good jobs --> No one has time for political activism and hold the red flag --> People are happy --> No more poor --> No need for communism --> What happens to you then Medha ? You dont get the limelite again ? so .. prevent India from developing --> More poor --> Communists get stronger. People like me vows to you Medha.. one day we will see that there is no communism left in India. As for your co-authors they are not worth a comment. What do u think will be the result of a nationwide opinion poll on the nuclear deal ? Let me know your guess.
RE:Left who supported 1962 chinese invasion are the anti-nationals
by Vishnu Sharma on Aug 24, 2007 04:20 AM Permalink
The only way to combat left terror is to have right counter-terror. Which does not allow ideology to dominate them but are solely driven by technological solutions.
You also know very well how the West Bengal government fully supports FDI and MNC's to invest in their state and where is the spineless Karat and Yechuri at that time ? They only have problem when the investment is in Kerala ? Look at a place like Kannur in Kerala where terror is the mechanism by which the commies hold their authority. You should be ashamed of yourself to support them. I will trust Manmohan Singh a 100 times more when compared to people like you. The old adage is that, if India becomes rich, then there is no poor. If there is no poor, then there is no communists ? So Indian should remain poor ?
