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AMERICANS ARE NOT GENUINE FRIENDS
by Anand Kumar on Aug 21, 2007 10:10 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Americans are very selfish. They do only such work which is only favourable to them. Anyone who had pact with American have to suffer loss.
THEREFORE, I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF NATION THAT THIS NUCLEAR DEAL SHOULD NOT BE FINALIZED. If this deal is finalized, then Amrican companies will get work of Billion $. They will also not transfer technology. We will be fully dependent on them and they can pull our legs at any time.

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RE:AMERICANS ARE NOT GENUINE FRIENDS
by bvvp prasad on Aug 21, 2007 10:16 AM  Permalink
May be TRUE. But all your pals are looking at America. Are you sure that you are not have an American connection? If you jave a connection Keep Quit.

Are you not interested if you get an US Working Visa? If NO keep quit.



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RE:AMERICANS ARE NOT GENUINE FRIENDS
by Vishwanathan vishu on Aug 21, 2007 10:16 AM  Permalink
who in todays world is ur friend my dear. Chinese what . Even when it comes to nuclear or technology transfer our friend Russia is little hesitant and depends on US.

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RE:AMERICANS ARE NOT GENUINE FRIENDS
by Nischal Ever on Aug 21, 2007 10:23 AM  Permalink
Agree with you. But it need not be scrapped or made with the intention or one ruling over the other. Both should have equal rights on what they do together. US should not forget that they are another country on the map like India and it does not have all the power in the world to dictate to a population of 1 billion and above in India.

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Useful for both sides
by Vijay Kumar on Aug 21, 2007 10:07 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Naturally both sides gain by a pact and both sides have to give up something. This deal definitely benefits USA as he gets a reliable long time ally to them and this also benefits us that our nuclear power reactors will run to their ful capacity. But if there are still some doubts, those can be resloved by a joint statement between USA and India on controversial matters.

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RE:Useful for both sides
by George on Aug 21, 2007 10:13 AM  Permalink
Read the hyde act and no one who cares about the sovereignty of our nation will support the bill.

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Thorium reserves
by George on Aug 21, 2007 09:35 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

India has 32 per cent of world's thorium reserves in the sands of Kerala. We should concentrate on developing technology that can use thorium to generate electricity than signing this crap deal with US, selling our sovereignty.

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RE:Thorium reserves
by Sam on Aug 21, 2007 10:04 AM  Permalink
Kerala is engulfed by Wahabism in Mallapuram. They will bomb the nuclear plants, kill some of the christians who might work in it and send the thorium to Pakistan and Saudi.

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RE:Thorium reserves
by George on Aug 21, 2007 10:11 AM  Permalink
@Sam If you don't know, Kerala has minimal or no cases of terrorism/naxalism/underworld related violence. And its not necessary to construct nuclear plants in kerala to extract the thorium.

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RE:RE:Thorium reserves
by Chander Malik on Aug 21, 2007 10:27 AM  Permalink
George, better you make nuclear energy in Kerala and lighten up the Kerala. For rest of India we need this deal to click.. Dont talk like Leftist party or like George Fernandis..

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RE:Thorium reserves
by George on Aug 21, 2007 10:43 AM  Permalink
@Chander Malik
Why do you want to depend on US for our power, when we can produce our own. I am not a supporter of the left or the bjp

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RE:Thorium reserves
by Sam on Aug 21, 2007 10:31 AM  Permalink
George, Can u explain Marad to me, sincerely without painting it?

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RE:Thorium reserves
by Sam on Aug 21, 2007 10:36 AM  Permalink
http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/may/05ker.htm

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RE:Thorium reserves
by George on Aug 21, 2007 10:45 AM  Permalink
@Chander Malik
Why do you want to depend on US for our power, when we can produce our own. I am not a supporter of the left or the bjp

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RE:Thorium reserves
by George on Aug 21, 2007 10:41 AM  Permalink
Well.. Marad was definitely a case a communal riot,but it was simply blown out of propotion, cause such things doesnt happen often in kerala. As far as i can remember less than 10 people died in the incident. Compare it to other instances of communal violence in the country and you will see the difference.

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RE:Thorium reserves
by Peter Parker on Aug 21, 2007 09:48 AM  Permalink
In response to the thorium fuel cycle.
a. Requires uranium feed too.
b. Technology not yet begun by india. Needs at-least 15-20 years to perfect.
c. No one else is working on it.
d. Even if someone else is successful, there is no way they are going to pass the tech to you.

No one passes tech for free. Also as clearly mentioned by Bush and others they are not going to pass tech for India to build bombs or other offensive weapons. In other words there will still be technology controls in effect and dual tech will not be passed easily. In return MMS promised not to circumvent US laws with regards technology.
I must say this, for the United States this is one of the best deals they can get. Cap on nuclear research, CTBT, FCMT exclusive to India, compliance of India to obey US technology export laws, no promise to supply dual use tech, plus export potentials of Nuclear and arms and finally getting the Indian government to act as poodles. Any american citizen should be proud of their negotiators & president atleast for this.

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RE:Thorium reserves
by George on Aug 21, 2007 09:54 AM  Permalink
You talk as if only US can develop new technology.
We have intellectual ability to develop the technology to produce energy from thorium, and it wont take decades to do it.We do not need anyone else technology, remember we developed our own nuclear bombs.
We have both the fuel and intellectual ability and we should stick to it.

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RE:RE:Thorium reserves
by Chander Malik on Aug 21, 2007 10:25 AM  Permalink
George, How much India has developed tech, Indians know. We have progressed but not at the level of advance nucl tech countries like US. We have IIT, IIM here but why we go to Harvard or any other US university????? We have IT companies here but why we want to go to US on H1???? Its for getting advantage what others have and implement it in your own home.. Technology is like education and there is no harm to gain it.. And there is always a cost when you are gaining some thing.. Its own you how judge whether its costly or reasonable...

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RE:Thorium reserves
by mohd aslam on Aug 21, 2007 10:31 AM  Permalink
I would like to make few corrections in the line.The current power reactors operating in India those include PWR& PHWR are based on Canadian and Russian technology which is now outdated and only india has these operating reactors.Even the research reactor CIRUS in Trombay was made by Canada.Indian have done reverse engineering to upgrade those design and constructed a few new reactors.In 50 years time indian intellectual have mastered the PHWR reverse engineering with the help of others not themselves.Indian nuclear establishment has severe problems which are not known to outer world.There are persons in service who comes from third grades colleges.No one from indian top institutions like IITs or other reputed colleges join DAE becuase of the better oppotunities available for them outside.Hence it will be unfaire to expact from our intellectual to develope thorium based technology in near future without the help of some advanced countries which are having with them technological know how of thorium fuel cycle.India has its program from very begining to develop thorium technology and work is going on this since last 40 years.The IGCAR Kalpakkam centre is dedicated to this cause only.But the outcome of this is frastrating and we are still working on developing the prototype of the technology.The much of the nuclear work was done by the great BHABHA and his companions upto early 70's.Dr.manmohan singh is a educated person and understand the logic behind the scne hence i would sa

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RE:Thorium reserves
by akshay gupta on Aug 21, 2007 11:09 AM  Permalink
Mr Aslam, all said and done we love America and their freedom etc which is the Hindu way.
Your illegitimate saudi parents tear our Hindu gods photos and trample upon our relgious symbols. Pls criticize them for doing so and then claim anything on India. Till then your religion Islam has committed crimes on other people on the earth. You must denounce the islmic way of hurting other peoples, civilizations and way of life. If you love your Islam way so much then it is best your followers go and live in the desert and begin planting of bombs and grow crops of your children who will be terrorists one day. Pls leave us Indians alone. your comments are not welcome.

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Where is Abdul Kalam?
by Be Serious on Aug 21, 2007 09:24 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Does any one bothered to ask an opinion from our ex-president on the need of another test? He could still be a better bridge between our respectable scientists and the political insanes.
I think he should come forward and clarify. In the event of confirmation that no more tests are realy required, then the Chinese National Party! and BJP should be dealt promptly.

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RE:Where is Abdul Kalam?
by Cynic on Aug 21, 2007 09:30 AM  Permalink
Hey serious !!!

Do you think the govt. has done this whole deal without involving the scientific community? Govts atre not run this way....seriously !!! :P

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RE:Where is Abdul Kalam?
by George on Aug 21, 2007 09:39 AM  Permalink
kalam knows this a crap deal. he just doesnt want to get into any controversy. If he had felt this is a good deal, he would have definitely supported it
India has 32 per cent of world's thorium reserves in the sands of Kerala. We should concentrate on developing technology that can use thorium to generate electricity than signing this crap deal with US, selling our sovereignty.


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RE:Where is Abdul Kalam?
by Cynic on Aug 21, 2007 09:46 AM  Permalink
Kalam is the ex-President of India !! He will not get involved into such matters which are purely political in nature. As regards the technicalities, that have already been taken care of by involving tghe scientific community. In fact Anil Kakodkar, chairman Atomic Energy commission is scheduled to go to Vienna on Sept 14 to negotiate with IAEAabout India specific safeguards.

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RE:Where is Abdul Kalam?
by akshay gupta on Aug 21, 2007 11:12 AM  Permalink
Another Islamic terrorist.Simply because he kept the file of the terrorist who is a muslim pending. This confirms his first love for muslims particularly those who are terrorist and those who have worked against India and Hindus.

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