Is the CPM never utilize their goodness, if they feel w/ China, did they do anything like:
(1) They didn't get any energy from Three Gorges Dam from China.
(2) They didn't get do any mutual agreement w/ China to get oil contracts. Because of competition between countries, both of them are paying double costs & we often loosing oil contracts to China, because china is competiting with India as a multi national corportation backed by the Govt. Where do we go for energy? Why there is this much cry & Hue from the Left?
All this talk about being world leader and superpower is just pure crap. They really dont believe in this. All this time it was merely a front to perpetrate their real agenda to suck dry and control all sources of revenue within the domestic areas. Think about 60 years and we dont even have a half way decent national highway system. It took US pressure for these guys to come up with the green revolution. Finally now we have a PM who really does not buy this superpower crap and believes only in the supremacy of the economy. But here he does not want to liberate the indian economy by refusing to initiate the remaining tranches of reform as he is in bed with the pinkos and sick northen socialists.
If this deal is so beneficial, why dont India go for NPT? anyway when we are in the deal with USA, practically we are not going to do N-tests. Moreover, NPT has international recognition, signing NPT will ensure permenant seat for India in UNSC. Signing NPT will include India in to reputed N-club nations. And all the other advantages of having privilages of civilian (peaceful) nuclear power production are also coupled with NPT. If India can be manipulated by USA for this Nuclear deal, why cant India drop the Anti-NPT stature? Atleast NPT has more credibility than this US sponsored deal.
RE:Will Manmohan explain this?
by India Fan on Aug 20, 2007 10:33 AM Permalink
Simple Nautanki, to show as if they have done a landmark deal, its all chest beating. They could have long way back signed the NPT, after all Indira had blown the bombs long time ago.
RE:RE:Will Manmohan explain this?
by hiral joshi on Aug 20, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
If for the time being we (India) are not concerned with N-tests, NPT would be much more beneficial than this deal. IAEA already recognises India as a Nuclear State and they too are desperate to bring India into NPT. By signing this deal we are indirectly complying NPT, then why dont we sign the real NPT which has international recognition?
RE:Will Manmohan explain this?
by India Fan on Aug 20, 2007 10:52 AM Permalink
It is nothing but stupidity, they could have signed NPT long time back, they would have got international recognition. They would have full choice of entering into talks with IAEA, NSG and chosen the technology and fuel supply partner of their own choice.
RE:RE:Will Manmohan explain this?
by hiral joshi on Aug 20, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
Not signing NPT and equating the signing of NPT to the compromise to our sovereignity was by NDA govt. While UPA govt too maintained a stance against NPT but took a similar step to ridicule the same stance.
RE:Aftermath of Nuke deal
by India Fan on Aug 20, 2007 10:35 AM Permalink
It was dumb on his part to give a dare to the left, he must have watched too much of "AXN's Dare" series.
RE:RE:Aftermath of Nuke deal
by flintstone on Aug 20, 2007 11:03 AM Permalink
If you have no idea about the good deeds done by the liberalisation guru Dr. Manmohan Singh just keep shut and dont parade your ignorance. Dr. Singh joined the cabinet out of love for the country after his retirement and doing a great job of increasing the wealth of all the citizens yes not everybody because of people like you putting up roadblocks along the way of devolpment. The Commies just want to make the rich poorer and the poor to remain as they are instead of uplifting the poor. The BJP justs wants to oppose just because they are in oppostion BJP please grow and become mature just dont remain rabble rousers forever. PLEASE LETS ALL INDIANS SUPPORT THE CAUSES WHICH ARE GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY AND OPPOSE ONLY THE WRONG CAUSES.
RE:Aftermath of Nuke deal
by India Fan on Aug 20, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
Cut the crap about liberalisation, it was done all under World Bank diktats. He was appointed by PV Narsimha Rao, for the first time a break from that dumb dynasty rule, which was the main reason some progress could be achieved.
I am amazed at the limited sight of left and opposition! They dnt look at the fact that the deal is not just all about nuclear deal.. its all abt the high technology flow frm advance states to india! The same thing will have a very positive implication on our economy! Those who are against the deal.. are the same people who opposed 1991 economic liberalisation and to be more clear.. they even opposed opening up telecom market for private player... i cant imaginge hw our telecom industry wld have been. with just the creepy service of Gov. run BSNL.... QUALITY COMES AT A PRICE... IN THIS CASE...LEFT IS THE PRICE
RE:nuke deal
by hiral joshi on Aug 20, 2007 10:41 AM Permalink
Its nothing about high-tech stuff. None of the so called suppliers of high-technology are using nuclear energy as their prime energy source, barring Japan and France. And if deal is so beneficial why dont India sign NPT and get official recognition from the International community as a peaceful Nuclear technology Nation. Why such a limited deal with USA? Govt must come clear on the issue and address all the concerns. Even USA has done lot of debate on this deal since last 2-3 years and in India we are initiating crucial debate just now. This is really pathetic for a democratic country.
IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO ANNOY THE UNITED STATES AND ITS ALLIES THE EUROPEAN UNION, JAPAN & SOUTH KOREA WITHOUT VERY SERIOUS ECONOMIC REPURCUSSIONS.
THE 1ST NUCLEAR REACTOR AT TARAPUR - DONATED BY AMERICA
THE TEJJAS & DHRUVV HELICOPTER - RUNNING ON AMERICAN ENGINES
AMERICA THE LARGEST INVESTOR IN INDIA
AMERICA THE LARGEST OUTSOURCER TO INDIA
AMERICA IS THE LARGEST AID DONOR TO INDIA
GREATEST NUMBER OF INDIANS LIVING ABROAD - AMERICA
GREATEST NUMBER OF STUDENTS FROM INDIA STUDYING ABROAD - AMERICA
WILL ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT SENSES RISK ANNOYING THE USA & ITS ALLIES FOR PLEASING A BUNCH OF RIFF-RAFF COMMUNISTS BACKED BY JEHADI FUNDAMENTALISTS, INHABITING MUD-HUTS IN CALCUTTA ?
RUSSIA IS FINISHED ECONOMICALLY AND DEPENDS ON THE USA, EUROPE & JAPAN FOR INVESTMENTS TO KEEP ITS ECONOMY AFLOAT. AND NO ONE GETS ANY USEFUL BENEFITS FROM CHINA - JUST HUGE LOAD OF CHEAP PLASTIC TOYS DUMPED IN THE MARKET PLUS RISK OF SNATCHING OF TERRITORY SUCH AS TIBET WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
RE:our PM
by India Fan on Aug 20, 2007 10:31 AM Permalink
Mikey continue dreaming, maximum no. of Indians fired in one day is in US, during dotcom bust. Indians are clubbed with Pakis,Arabs and are known as Asians. The nuke deal is a drama, they could have straightaway signed NPT, then could have got fuel from anybody.
RE:our PM
by Rams on Aug 20, 2007 09:37 AM Permalink
I fully agree with you. Look at possible reactions with the international community if India conducts a nuclear test again even without the existence of 123 agreement. The commies are misleading yhe nation raising this issue. Actually they should be worried about where the nuclear cooperation will take india on strategic foreign policy matters. For example if India does not act according to the wishes of americans on matters like Iran, americans could put hurdles to the supply of muclear materials. We may not have any option but to heed to americans because by that time India would have invested billions on nuclear energy. We need to ensure that americans would not blackmail us on foreign policy matters, and should not be worried about losing the chance to test nuclear weapons again. We just can not afford another nuclear test.
RE:our PM
by flintstone on Aug 20, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
If you have no idea about the good deeds done by the liberalisation guru Dr. Manmohan Singh just keep shut and dont parade your ignorance. Dr. Singh joined the cabinet out of love for the country after his retirement and doing a great job of increasing the wealth of all the citizens yes not everybody because of people like you putting up roadblocks along the way of devolpment. The Commies just want to make the rich poorer and the poor to remain as they are instead of uplifting the poor. The BJP justs wants to oppose just because they are in oppostion BJP please grow and become mature just dont remain rabble rousers forever. PLEASE LETS ALL INDIANS SUPPORT THE CAUSES WHICH ARE GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY AND OPPOSE ONLY THE WRONG CAUSES.
RE:our PM
by rightontop on Aug 20, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
Hey guys pls understand in what ways the history of the world kingdoms and countries won against other by seeing this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_Strategies
RE:our PM
by rohit agarwal on Aug 20, 2007 09:26 AM Permalink
How can u say that? India's foreign policy can never be compromised by the deal.. What the Hyde acts says that if any country does nuclear tests US will stop supporting nuclear supplies.. What's wrong with that?
India has the right to conduct nuclear tests and if we feel that we need to do it, we will do it.. Its not going to stop us from going nuclear. In the worst case nuclear supplies will be stopped and in the best case, we have the nuclear energy at our doorsteps...
RE:our PM
by Riten on Aug 20, 2007 10:27 AM Permalink
It is as good as saying we won't do any nuclear tests once the deal is through. Why should we not have a deal with the US on the same terms as China has with the US?
RE:our PM
by hiral joshi on Aug 20, 2007 10:23 AM Permalink
Nuclear energy is at our doorsteps even without deal. But once this deal is OFF, we need to return all the raw-material, spare-parts, technical know-how back to USA. This is enormous expenditure. So practically we are forced to not to do any tests in future by financial hinderance.
RE:RE:our PM
by Vaempuli V on Aug 20, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
there are enough checks to deter the Americans from calling off the deal unilaterally at the drop of a hat. The US will have to compensate for the financial hinderances.
There has been enough of this blackmail by the left parties. Now the government should take a tough stand. If they withdraw support let it be so. Let there be election. Beacause of various problems in Bengal (like singur problem), left will be less powerful in the next Lok Sabha. That will be good for the nation.
RE:Blackmail by left
by Prabhu Bhaktan on Aug 20, 2007 10:18 AM Permalink
If election held due non-cooperation of Left parties and other oppostion parties onnuclear deal, UPA will be clear winner. BJP is supporting left parties inspite of fact that they are stooges of China which they have already proved by forcing the Government to issue VISA for 1000 Chines engineers for Gas pipeline project.
RE:RE:Blackmail by left
by hiral joshi on Aug 20, 2007 10:31 AM Permalink
BJP is not supporting left parties. It was the BJP who was against the deal right-from the begining. Our Loud-mouth PM gave a statement in 2005 in USA that whole Parliament backs me except former PM AB Vajpayee and his party. Stand of BJP on nuclear issue is clear as always, while left always have inconsistent and unreliable stand on national issues.
