US says it willact if india Conducts nuclear tests. How they will react? attacking India with its Militory might? Then get ready. We Indians should unite together to thwart any aerican attack. They are blackmailing us. What a government we got. It seems they did not read the clause before signing the agreement. Perhaps their english might be weak. Poor show.
RE:Buclear tests
by India Fan on Aug 17, 2007 10:53 AM Permalink
They can't attack India, they want to manipulate India against China. The Us needs India more than vice versa.
RE:baggers have no choice
by chandrashekar aazad on Aug 17, 2007 10:53 AM Permalink
Who are beggers Kishore Bhosdiwale, i think Bush sleep with your m..o bloody traitor.
RE:baggers have no choice
by Sandipan chakraborty on Aug 17, 2007 11:50 AM Permalink
hahaha..just check and come who invented the Intel chip..then the rest will follow..america did not invent pharma..it was there long ago..Most of the credit for electronics goes to Japan and software to India..I think thats enuf of knowledge for today..
RE:baggers have no choice
by Sandipan chakraborty on Aug 17, 2007 12:34 PM Permalink
Indians should be fighters not slaves..it is slavish attitude of some Indians that cause us to loose independence.
RE:RE:baggers have no choice
by mr on Aug 17, 2007 12:01 PM Permalink
America invented the computer, america invented the electronics. It is the duty of the countries to pay back to america. I hope India is doing its best to give some business to america, i expect others also, who enjoyed american money have to return them business. -- An Indian.
RE:baggers have no choice
by Wilson on Aug 17, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
correctly told. We always forget the people who helps us. But always behind the traitors
RE:baggers have no choice
by Akbar on Aug 17, 2007 11:08 AM Permalink
You dumb moron, b l oo dy F C KI NG BAS TRD.... Dont you have brains? YOU A s s H o l e ... You cant get anything into your hollow brain, can you? The computer that you are talking about runs on 0s and 1s, and the 0 itself is invented by INDIANS. And thats the basis for every invention you listed above, and what Pharmaceuticals are you talking , INDIA is the mother of all medicines.
RE:RE:baggers have no choice
by Akbar on Aug 17, 2007 11:25 AM Permalink
Go hide yourself in your f k n g rat borrow...else I will stamp on you and kill you , you stpd mouse....
Manmohan Singh has been giving assurances that India has retained the right to test its nuclear weapons. But now the US says that it will act if India conducts any test. We the common people do not undersatand what is going on in India. Is it that the learned Manmohan not understood the 123 agreement properly? or is he trying to expose the security of our country? or is he trying to cover up the mistakes they have committed in signing the deal? or is he a mere rubber stamp?, may be a rubber stamp of a lady named Sonia who has no credibility to be a politician. Just because she was married to a member of a Nehru family, I do not thinh that she possesses the necessary quality to command this kind of respect from politicians. Is there no none in the Congress to mantle the party. It is a shame that an indiginous party is dependant on a lady who has no charisma or leadership qualities, and who is going to plunge the country into trouble. On example is the extradition case of Quotrocchi which has brought shame to the entire nation and its system. Another case could be this nuclear deal. I don not know how many of such deals our mother India has to withstand...????
RE:PM's assurance seems to be a humbug
by India Fan on Aug 17, 2007 10:49 AM Permalink
He is dreaming that everything comes for free, next up India will be forced to sign up for F-16 jets (which are going to be phased out).
RE:PM's assurance seems to be a humbug
by India Fan on Aug 17, 2007 10:55 AM Permalink
Well as of now, US opposes India a seat in UN (which a farce organization), we can achieve a lot by not having a seat in the security council.
RE:PM's assurance seems to be a humbug
by Sandipan chakraborty on Aug 17, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
Good reply..amazing!..Michael ur one of such independent thinkers; very hard to find these days. Man i really appreciate self Independent and Logical thinkers like you. Great comments!
RE:PM's assurance seems to be a humbug
by mr on Aug 17, 2007 11:50 AM Permalink
America is the founder of the UN. Because of the Micky Mouse or Rat, we don't argue about America. India deserve a Permanent Seat, but it was denied & the world will know the price for these continual suppression of India by various measures
RE:PM's assurance seems to be a humbug
by hiral joshi on Aug 17, 2007 11:04 AM Permalink
Are you talking about UN seat of disney world? I was expecting concrete links from you not castles in air like you show in Walt-disney cartoons, Mr. Mikkey.
RE:RE:PM's assurance seems to be a humbug
by hiral joshi on Aug 17, 2007 11:26 AM Permalink
Where is Free of cost Tarapore reactor mentioned my dear? And mind well "informal offer" America does deal in grey area by making informal offer and therefore India denied.
RE:PM's assurance seems to be a humbug
by Mikkey Moouse on Aug 17, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
Jawaharlal Nehru "declined a United States informal offer" to India to "take the permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council" around 1953. Nehru declined the offer about the same time as he turned down "with scorn" John Foster Dulles' support for an Indian Monroe Doctrine. Nehru did so on the beliefs that India should remain a neutral wedge in world politics, becoming the founding member of the Non-aligned Movement.
RE:PM's assurance seems to be a humbug
by mohammed abdul on Aug 17, 2007 11:01 AM Permalink
then why did'nt they RE-CONSIDER giving UN Seat to India again in lasy 40-50 years??
Buyer does not have any choice with a monopolistic seller, Nobody other than US and Australia has offerred India N fuel. We are to decide whether we need a N-bomb or energy for our fields and industry. It appears, we are at infant stage of nuclear technology and cannot do any further progress without the assistance of others. There is no use to abuse or curse US, it is for us, we take it or not.
RE:Nuclear deal
by hiral joshi on Aug 17, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
Just give a search in wikipedia "fast breeder reactor" and you will come to know at what stage we are. Best scenario is we need both Nuclear weapons (because as a minimum deterrence as our neighbours cannot be trusted)and we want Nuclear energy for our industrial growth. And there is always an option for those who try to find it.
It is pretty sad to see that our diplomats could not understand the US politics and they failed to understand each and every point of the agreement.If US says that there are provisions in the agreement for cancellationif India conducts nuke test,then it is a serious mistake/ignorance made by our diplomats or they again succumbed to US politics. The 123 agreement should have put on a debate before a final decision.
Can anybody direct to the link where the cost competitiveness of the power generated by Nuclear energhy is listed? Particularly how much India is going to invest to generate what amount of power and at what cost we shall getting that power per unit?
RE:Need help
by India Fan on Aug 17, 2007 10:52 AM Permalink
The power per unit will be easily more than Rs 10, in other words we can't afford it. The problem with nuclear power plants is that they are difficult to construct, they are expensive, they need high security, plus there is need for waste treatment facility and last but not the least it has a life of 40-60 years and the cost of dismantling the plant alone works out to be $300 million, which has to be again added as a fixed cost.
RE:RE:Need help
by hiral joshi on Aug 17, 2007 10:57 AM Permalink
Yes I know that. Putting up the plant would be easy because of the deal but operative cost will run very high for atleast 25 to 50 years. On the other hand maintainance, and waste disposal will be a biggest headache. Our industries and govt fail to protect people from even simple pollution like pesticides or refinery waste then how will our govt tackle the disposal of large amount of nuclear waste? India has already 14 reactors.
