You definately need some lessons in History. however, do not refer to INIDAN history books because they are biased like the Indian judiciary. a person making available her car is sentensed to life whereas a person possessing weapons like AK 56 is given 6 years. further, there is hue and cry in this very educated and intellectual society to reduce the punishment or even release SANJU.
RE:Two faces of JUSTICE
by purna on Aug 09, 2007 02:52 PM Permalink
Because the person who made the car available is co-conspirator, knew for what purpose the car was needed; more evidence was found in the house for carrying out the bombing? What else you need?
RE:Two faces of JUSTICE
by Anurag Shrivastava on Aug 09, 2007 03:07 PM Permalink
Sunny - Mere possession of AK56 is terrorism because it is a weapon of causing mass casualties and not self defense or even commit a regular sort of murder. The Shiv Sena leader as I understand was carrying pistols - which is OK to carry when there is situation of riots for pure self defence. There is a different thought process in acquiring an AK56 - and that is to kill a LOT of people - and we will never know what was going on in Sanju's mind then. Its not a good idea to release Sanjay Dutt. Not a big deal though about some leader carrying pistols.
Akhtar Khan, one of the MLAs of MIM who fiercely protected their move of attacking the author. "She is enemy of Islam, she is a black spot on Muslims," lashed out a defiant Khan. "We cannot bear anyone talking against Islam. She has written books against our government, Islam. We will not tolerate her in Hyderabad." When asked about his party's stand on the attack, Khan proudly said, "I am a Muslim first and then an MLA. My party is with me in this."
So he joined the politics to completely favour the Muslims? Does that sound right from the above statement. Whatever might be the cause how can an MLA attack someone for his religion? I fail to understand.
When some artist drew our gods picture nude we just stood there and did not comment. Well done hindu's. Keep it up. Infact we do write articles about his greatness.
I am sure our muslim sympathisers will let us know some incidents where a Hindu MLA called himself a Hindu before he was an MLA.
RE:Look at what an MLA says?
by sunny on Aug 09, 2007 02:47 PM Permalink
YOU need to understand the afct the for Muslims religion comes first before the Nation. Whatever he has dais is within these perameters.
RE:Look at what an MLA says?
by Anurag Shrivastava on Aug 09, 2007 03:09 PM Permalink
well - in that case they should find a nation which allows religion to come before the nation. India is not one of them so .... time to pack some bags ?? there are a lot of people waiting to just help do that. Do not make them angry.
RE:Look at what an MLA says?
by purna on Aug 09, 2007 02:56 PM Permalink
The congress government in AP must take immediate action to prevent deterioration of law and order. Let us see how the press, the media and secularists, and the communists will react.
RE:Good for the country ...
by Pat Thakur on Aug 09, 2007 03:27 PM Permalink
If they do, just imagine...
Court opens. Sonia is sitting with her Attorney, her Gang of Chamchas & a Translator on one side. On the other is Bal Thakre with his retinue. proceedings begin.
SONIA: My lord, this packet of Saffron & Rudraksh sitting in front of us is a first class murderer & blot on our society; don't be fooled by his false aura. We have to disrobe & bring him to justice.
THAKRE: Aga ye Ingrazanchi Ushti - Kharkati Vati, adhi nit Rashtra Bhashetun bolayla shik, maag maze kapde kadaychi bhasha kar.
SONIA; See my lord, just hear his language. My ears feel demeaned on hearing such blasphemy. No cultured soul will stand this.
THAKRE: Ha, ha, ha. Mafia chya angakhandyavar vadhalela he Angavastra mazhi laayki sangtay. Sundar! Are dossryana Asanskrut mhanyapurvi svatyachya Gandhi Khandaanane kiti Sanskruti udhalali te bagh.
SONIA: My lord, why bring the family into this matter? We are talking about issues of National Interest...
THAKRE: Nana chi taang. Tujhya Ajoba, Baap, Dir, Jaau ani Navryaane kay mothi Rashtra Hitachi kaama karun dive laavle ahet? Ani tu, tujha kaay? Desh khaadyat ghalayla nighali aahat tu ani tujhi chamche mandali.
At this all Sonia's Chamchas start abusing & Thakre's Counterparts too jump into the fray. Slowly this brawl turns into a scuffle & then heavy fighting begins. Soon the Courtroom transforms into the Assembly Hall where Elected representatives engage in similar activities everyday.
All religions have some sort of fanaticism, look at Christainity, the crusades were religious wars conducted to spread religion, Islam has conducted many wars to spread Islam, destroyed many temples. Even Hinduism has stopped Buddhism from spreading, we read about Ashoka the great having built many monastries, but where are they now. They were destroyed before 10th century by our own Hindus long before Muslim Invasion in the 11 th century. This is how history is hidden, we read about Christians and Muslims in our history books, but never about why Buddhism never survived in the land of it origin. Why it perished after Ashoka and Harshavardhana? Check out world history from any foreign source and you will know this to be true. Politicians and the government have always been manipulating us. The point I am making is this...
All religions are guilty of some misdeeds in the past. Why should we fight amongst ourselves now for what happened centuries ago. It is crazy. Politicians, be it Congress, BJP or any other party don't give a damn, they just want to rouse up peoples sentiments to get votes. When BJP was in power why didn't they build the temple at Ayodhya? Because they don't care. It is much better if we stop hating each other like this and work to the growth of our country.
RE:Why do we hate each other?
by Auyoban on Aug 09, 2007 02:29 PM Permalink
Well said, it is true. It depends on which side you are standing and how history is taught.
I should make tomorrow a better one for myself and humankind...
RE:RE:Why do we hate each other?
by udayam enterprises on Aug 09, 2007 02:41 PM Permalink
Before History text books are printed it is reviewed by a committee. Some facts are hidden, some are published. No wonder we are taught (in a sublime way) to hate Christains and Muslims at school itself. If the truth was published we would be as guilty as them, no one would hate the other, and then politicians will have no ISSUES to cause unrest and get votes.
RE:Why do we hate each other?
by purna on Aug 09, 2007 02:34 PM Permalink
You are reading Indian history as presented by western and communist historians and getting a biased opinion. Please read what indian historians have said. It is a big subject to be trated lightly. Please don't make accusations you cannot substantiate.
RE:Why do we hate each other?
by udayam enterprises on Aug 09, 2007 02:53 PM Permalink
Miss Purna...Read this please...
Sunga persecutions (2nd%u0431st c.BCE)
The Sunga dynasty (185%u04373 BCE) was established in 185 BCE, about 50 years after Ashoka's death. After murdering King Brhadrata (last of the Mauryan rulers), military commander-in-chief Pusyamitra Sunga took the throne. An orthodox Brahmin, Sunga is known for his hostility and persecution towards the Buddhist faith. He is recorded as having "destroyed monasteries and killed Monks" (Divyavadana, pp. 429%u043434): 84,000 Buddhist stupas which had been built by Ashoka were destroyed (R. Thaper), and 100 gold coins were offered for the head of each Buddhist monk (Indian Historical Quarterly Vol. XXII, p. 81 ff cited in Hars.407). A large number of Buddhist monasteries (viharas) were converted to Hindu temples, in such places as Nalanda, Bodhgaya, Sarnath, or Mathura.
RE:RE:Why do we hate each other?
by purna on Aug 09, 2007 03:09 PM Permalink
Why miss purna; you are like thaper - fill unknown information with your incorrect imagination.
RE:Why do we hate each other?
by purna on Aug 09, 2007 03:08 PM Permalink
Thousand of hindus have been butchered, women folk abducted, millions converted to islam, thousands of temples razed to the ground, converted to mosques or mausoleums, what is the position of hinduism now? It has not vanished. Buddhism had spread to south india as well along with jainism. Jainism now survives, but not buddhism, why? You must read sri lankan history.
Romila Thaper's version of indian history will soon be forgotten with more non-left historians relooking into the wild guesses made by the western historians and indologists and their thaper-like disciples.
RE:Why do we hate each other?
by Hooter on Aug 09, 2007 02:40 PM Permalink
Udayam Enetrprises ...
Hope you are not running your company like you write (without any basis). You have so easily blamed Hindus for non-existent monastaries where as you don't notice Bamiyan Buddhas blasted away by your friends in Afganistan !!
Its not BJP which is the problem ... Its the Congress which is communalising the society deeply.
For every step of progress India makes, Congress adds 2 tea spoonfuls of communal concoctions and keeps the majority community on the edge. Thats gives rise to parties like BJP which did not exist earlier.
So, history should not only be valued & but also take care that you are reading the correct history !!
RE:Why do we hate each other?
by Saths on Aug 09, 2007 02:59 PM Permalink
Arun,
You are a sympathiser. Atleast Hindu's left the violence way back but unfortunately the muslims are still doing what their rulers did to us. I did not read in any of my history books that most of the muslim rulers massacred millions of Hindu's if they did not convert nor did I read anything about the thousand's of temples they demolished or converted to mosques nor did I learn that they took most of the Hindu girls as concubines nor did I learn that they raped and murdered the hindu kings wife in front of him after a war and the list will go on. I guess the same commitee reviwed those you MORON. Let's stay away from History please. Tell your story to 2 yr old kid and he will beleive you.
RE:RE:Why do we hate each other?
by udayam enterprises on Aug 09, 2007 03:14 PM Permalink
Saths...You are missing the point, by having so much hate what do you think your children will learn..only to hate other people. You are talking about the past and hating the present generation? You sound like one of those crazy Islamic terrorist fanatics, who always blame and incite hate. Get a life you MORON. Learn to be a good Human Being. The elegance of Hinduism is getting lost because of Morons like you.
RE:Right step- But will Bal thackerey ever be grilled?
by purna on Aug 09, 2007 02:40 PM Permalink
Who says India is a secular country? It is a minority appeasement country to the detriment of satvic majority hindu community. The minorities have all the support - government, NGOs, communists, pseudo secular politicians, press, TV and foreign money. Why this combined might is not bearing fruits?
RE:Right step- But will Bal thackerey ever be grilled?
by worli on Aug 10, 2007 12:29 AM Permalink
minority appeasement is the myth put in your foolish mind by your power hungry leaders who want o just create fear in your mind you hindus are pain in the A55 you people should be sent to NEPAL a hindu country
RE:Right step- But will Bal thackerey ever be grilled?
by recent on Aug 09, 2007 05:53 PM Permalink
this is not a secular country after all steps are taken to ensure justice is done for mumbai blast case and nothing done for Bombay riots culprits.
Bombay blast would not have taken place if the Bombay riots have not taken place.
Bal thackery himself publicly acknowledged he was behind Bombay riots and look where is he? behind bars or in confort of his home?
Here different rules apply for different communities.
RE:Right step- But will Bal thackerey ever be grilled?
by purna on Aug 09, 2007 07:13 PM Permalink
None of this would have happened if all the muslims had left for pakistan after partition.
RE:Right step- But will Bal thackerey ever be grilled?
by sunny on Aug 09, 2007 02:24 PM Permalink
Wish so. That will be a great example of good Judicial system in India. however, the recent developments in Our Judicial system does not show any promising signs of JUSTICE being done and BALA THAKEAY and co been brought to JUSTICE.
congress is just showing sympathy towards muslims in the wake of mumbai blast case results.
congress is well aware of the consequences if she reopens the shrikrishna report.
it is the congress who started all this series of events. if then narsimha rao govt acted properly, then no babri demolition, no riots and no bomb blasts have occured.
it was not bjp or sena who demolished babri but the army spies, who were acted upon orders from rao and pawar. so bjp's ram mandir issue would be finished and bjp could not benefit from it.
RE:just a show to pacify muslims
by Padmanabhan M on Aug 09, 2007 02:37 PM Permalink
How we all get taken up by non issues. If a derelict mosque (not being used) gets pulled down in UP, does it justify rioting and killing Mumbai ? No violence is justified. Action must be taken against all perpetrators of vilolence, irrespective of their religious beliefs.
RE:just a show to pacify muslims
by Bal Sant on Aug 09, 2007 02:53 PM Permalink
dear recent, your name suggests depth of your knowledge,
when babari was demolished, reporters asked bjp hq, bjp pointed finger towards sena. that time bal thackrey said, he would be proud if it is done by his mens.
rapid action force was kept around ayodhya by home minister chavan to take actions, but rao and pawar did not allow rpf to enter ayodhya before complete demolition of babri.
it was not possible for karsevaks without any tools to destroy ageold structure, even rss cadres were protecting the structure, bec rss/bjp wanted ayodhya issue to be alive till they get power at center.
rao and pawar were very clever, they sensed opprtunist bjp's game and destroyed masjid at time of karseva. they wanted to achieve two things, one to stop bjp from coming to power with the help ayodhya issue and second to help hindu voters without hurting muslim vote bank.
