The recent news that 14 percent of those who qualified to the IIT were BCs who got through the general qouta. This means that these young men and women had the wherewithal to afford quality education to get into an IIT. This in itself shows that its the well to do and rich among BCs who are actually cornerning the benefits of reservation. The poor BC student still has no chance as his basic education level is so bad that he or she cannot aspire to get into an institute of higher learning.
What we need is reservations based on economic condition of the family. Be it a Brahmin or a ST student, let them avail of benefits if the family is truly backward, economically. Today we have the kids of Ram Vilas Paswan and Laloo Prasad Yadav cornering all the seats.
This process of educating the poor students should start from the primary level. Why should these students study in good for nothing government schools. Why cannot rich people sponsor one poor child each in a good English medium school. Pay their fees, for the books, uniforms and track how well these kids are doing. If need be, pay for their special tutions too. We have so many of us blowing up money in a KFC or a McDoanlds, when it can educate a child. Let us start the charity from home... Think about it.
RE:Why caste based reservations ?
by Suresh on Aug 08, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
By sponsoring a child's education ourselves. I sponsor the education of my maid's boy who unfortunately studies in a govt school. But is better than have the young lad sit at home. I pay for his fees, books, uniforms, all of which came to just 2000 rupees a year.
RE:Why caste based reservations ?
by debendra biswal on Aug 08, 2007 02:03 PM Permalink
DEAR FRIEND, I AM NOT AGREE WITH YOU.CASTE IS THE ONLY TRUTH TO DEFINE INDIAN SOCIAL SYSTEM. IT IS THE ONLY PERMANENT CRITERIA.ECONOMIC CONDITION CHANGES EVEN IN A DAY.OBC ARE BACKWARD NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR ECONOMIC STATUS BUT BECAUSE OF THEIR SOCIAL EXCLUSION. YOU ARE JUDGING RAMVIALS OR LALOO BECAUSE OF THEIR POWER AND INFLUENCE. LALOO IS NOT AN OBC IN REAL SENSE. PL. BE RATIONAL AND SEE THE MILLIONS OF OBCS WHO CAN GET JUSTICE ONLY IF THERE IS RESERVATION, LIKE THE PRIVILEGE GIVEN TO SC/ST BY OUR CONSTITUTION.
Arjun sing and congress have become so old that they brains are rusted.Congress party has done enough divisions of Indian society and has done enough damage to the country.Arjun Singh is bent upon destroying the unity among the close nit Indian society,what is he going to gain by this reservations? Vote bank in his constituency to win the next elections?Come to Lok Sabha again and do further damage?This man is not capable to take care of his own household what good can he do to his constituency and the country?Remember the recent dowry case?In todays world of high competetiveness and proffessionals this man wants to creat and down grade the premium institutions to sarkari schools.What OBCs require on priority bases is not resevation,they need good living,food,cloths Health and education facilities,liberal loans for business,education and society upliftment this will creat the scholers and good executives and high profile men and women from the OBCs.By keeping the OBCs under hopeless conditions you cannot have the geniuses.OK Mr.Arjun Singh ???
RE:To hell with castism.
by dhananjay kulkarni on Aug 08, 2007 01:44 PM Permalink
Brother, Only way thr' POLL every 5 yrs. My strong filling is to military rule, India needs at all.
RE:To hell with castism.
by rajesh on Aug 08, 2007 01:24 PM Permalink
Brother, you are right. But who listens ?. These politicians just want votes and thats all. they are least bothered about the welfare of the OBCs or ST/SCs.. The more these people remain poor and uneducated, better for them get votes....
RE:To hell with castism.
by balaji sampath on Aug 08, 2007 01:55 PM Permalink
well said sayed bhai, Let the government concentrate on upliftment of the poor immaterial of their caste or religion rather than trying to divide them further and create mistrust and enimity.
RE:A slap on the face of Arjun Singh
by Libran on Aug 08, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
It is you who has to wake up. This was only a refusal to vacate an interim order. This can only postpone the inevitable. Unless we the citizens bring about serious changes to poltics, we will not be able to kill this demon called Reservation nor the other asura called social inequity. We will have to live with two asuras. Or we will keep on arguing ad-nauseum
RE:A slap on the face of Arjun Singh
by Amit Phatak on Aug 08, 2007 01:43 PM Permalink
No my friend this is not the inevitable. Unless the Govt comes up with the data (% OBCs in population that justifies 27% reservation) the SC will never grant its wishes. Gathering such data is very difficult for the Govt. The SC has also disallowed quoting the Tamil Nadu 69% reservation as precedent in this case.
RE:A slap on the face of Arjun Singh
by A K Singh on Aug 08, 2007 01:11 PM Permalink
Do not be too happy. It is only a temporary reprieve. Caste based reservations are going to increase. Not just that, the ambit of caste based reservations is going to include Private sector as well. If you are a 'no quota' caste, only option for you is: "Bharat Chhodo Andolan" And who cares for you. Leave India or go to hell.
Supreme Court has once again reinforced it's supremacy over the Executive run by IDIOTS.These fellows are creating splits in the people thereby containing Vote Banks!Similarly the Supreme Court should strike down the reservations for minorties which is on the cards of the political Govts.
RE:A befitting slap on the faces of Secular Fanatics!
by Libran on Aug 08, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
Wake up. This was only a refusal to vacate an interim order. This can only postpone the inevitable. Unless we the citizens bring about serious changes to poltics, we will not be able to kill this demon called Reservation nor the other asura called social inequity. We will have to live with two asuras.
Salary & Govt. Concessions for a Member of Parliament (MP)
Monthly Salary : 12,000
Expense when the Parliament is in session (per month) :10,000
Office expenditure per month : 14,000
Traveling concession (Rs. 8 per km) :48,000 ( eg.For a visit from kerala to Delhi & return: 6000 km)
Daily DA TA during parliament meets : 500/day
Charge for 1 class (A/C) in train:Free (For any number oftimes) (All over India )
Charge for Business Class in flights :Free for 40 trips / year (With wife or P.A.)
Rent for MP hostel at Delhi :Free
Electricity costs at home : Freeup to 50,000 units
Local phone call charge :Free up to 1 ,70,000 calls.
TOTAL expense for a MP [having no qualification] per year :32,00,000 [ i.e . 2.66 lakh/month]
TOTAL expense for 5 years :1,60,00,000
For 534 MPs, the expense for 5 years : 8,54,40,00,000 (nearly 855 crores)
AND THE PRIME MINISTER IS ASKING THE HIGHLY QUALIFIED, OUT PERFORMING CEOs TO CUT DOWN THEIR SALARIES.....
This is how all our tax money is been swallowed and price hike on our regularcommodities.......
And this is the present condition of our country:
855 crores could make their li v e s worth liv ing !! Think of the great democracy we have............. PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO ALL REAL CITIZENS OF INDIA
RE:REALITY
by Rahul Sharma on Aug 08, 2007 12:59 PM Permalink
Good Research thanks for posting..there is only one and only one solution OUTSOURCE the MP JOB or Privetise it so company can bid for the JOB...
RE:PLEASE HELP INDIA
by deshbhakth on Aug 08, 2007 12:57 PM Permalink
You seem to have stopped your funny English dude...Nevertheless..I is absolutely is agrees with you is....LOL
RE:PLEASE HELP INDIA
by Kaka Mehra on Aug 08, 2007 01:09 PM Permalink
Sameer, I appreciate your feelings. Unfortunately,you are not going to get any support, Reason - literate people don't vote. The day they start voting, there will be no shortage of able people in politics. You must have observed that few able people always stand in every election but fails to even save their deposit because the literate people don't vote. Had the literate people voted, these few able people would have been elected and out political system would have not been like it is.
RE:PLEASE HELP INDIA
by kalyan ram on Aug 08, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
yes, i agree with you... it is a shame thing that voting among literate people is low and voting among illiterate people is high in india....while in USA voting among literates is high and voting among poor and illiterates is low......this is absolutely a shameless thing for india.....no wonder politicians have come to soltion that middleclass and literates are worthless and hence they ignore them......
Reservation should have been a tool to lift a person to a certain level but now its a tool at the hands of politicians to seek votes. Supreme court might have delayed it for one year but it will again be passed next year as all political parties will pass it again as all need votes. But will even one polotician give in wrting that he and his family will get treatment from only those doctors who will be selected in reserve catagory at the cost of more talented candidates.I am sure no one will do that.They will go abroad or private hospitals.
All of the 3 aides and secretaries of MS and 7 members of AS aides in the ministry that carry out their work are qualified people from unreserved category. Guess they both never heard of practising what they preache....
Oh the irony!!!
Just recently Maharashtra Education department found 15 cases where officers divorced wives [only on paper] so that they could claim family income of single under Rs 3 lakhs per annum to claim promotion in reservations not meant for so called creamy layer [above Rs 3 lakh per annum]
RE:Arjun and Manmohan themselves don't promote Reservations in their ministries....
by sanjeev shrivastava on Aug 08, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
Manmohan is a OBC
