When reservation of seats in Government and private colleges, jobs in private and public institutions are made on the basis of sex, religion, castes, economic status etc. we are not giving justice to all citizens of India equally. Members of so-called weaker and socially backward communities becoming more and more influential and richer, and members of so-called socially forward communities are becoming more and more poorer and lose importance in the society. Even after 60 years of Independence is it necessary to have reservations? It is a mockery of Indian Constitution by not encouraging meritorious candidates to shine and driving them out to foreign countries to shine. All Indians should be treated alike and there should not be any difference because of gender, caste or social status. Let us do away with the policy of reservation and do not deprive the opportunities of meritorious persons to shine. Let us not insult the various communities highlighting their castes and not allowing them to compete as Indians in general. All are equal before Law. I suggest that we should not isolate any community in the name of caste or religion.There should not be reservations to anybody in the name of caste or gender. We are insulting the beneficiaries of reservation by highlighting their castes. All should be treated equally. If father is a doctor son cannot be treated as a doctor unless he posseses the necessary qualifications of a doctor by hardwork. So also one should not be treated
RE:Reservation - Abue as argument
by bracelet grace on Aug 15, 2007 11:46 AM Permalink
100% reservation is a must from the standpoint of social justice and principles of Mother Nature. If a mother has ten children and if a few of them are poor and the remaining are rich she will not at all feel happy over rich children but will feel totally dejected over poor ones. This is law of Mother Nature. Another law of nature is that cutting across all religious, social etc. divisions 70% of the population are shirkers and only 30% are workers. This is because 80% of air is inactive nitorgen and only 19% is active Oxygen, the proportion having been fixed after very careful thought by Nature to ensure that the earth is not rendered clean-shaven and ecology upset within a very short time. Allowing 30% workers to gain upper-hand is, therefore, not acceptable to Mother Nature, both from the point of view of clean-shaving but alaso from the point of view of humanism, self-respect and exploitation of majority etc. It has also to be understood that thermodynamic laws ensure that every work result in around 70% loss and entropy and consequently there is no chance of any post, whether white collar or labour-intensive, being good or lucrative. So all posts are exploitative only in proportion to their lucrativeness. Thus scientific laws ensure that the more one is meritorious, the more one is exploitative and that is why merit has not been able to gain acceptance or even accommodation by humanists. The advocates of meritocracy should clearly appreciate this great drawback
The Govt. of India deducts education cess from the hard working honest tax payers of India. It should answer as to how this money has been used by the HRD ministry under the idiotic & brain dead Arjun Singh. Why is that none of the politicians send their children to be educated to the innumerable govt. schools in the country? Why do they not have their children educated in the vernacular medium? Why is that the govt. schools in the country are in such pathetic state? Why is it that even the poor & backward people if given a chance would prefer to send their children to private english medium schools if given a chance rather than a govt. or vernacular one? Whom should the State subsidise, a poor so called upper caste student or a rich OBC one?
Looking at the morass in the education sector in India & the way politicians are screwing it up further, it looks like the only solution is what the communists would surely admire ( ie. Stalinist solution) ; send all these self serving, casteist & communal politicians to reducation camps in the most inhospitable areas of India or have them shot.
Reservations were designed to last only for a period of ten years. But now the politicians seem ready to perpetuate them forever to appeal to their vote banks. Now retrograde & self serving politicians like Meira Kumar, Ram Vilas Paswan & the lousy Communists want to have them extended to the private sector. Nobody seems ready to look into the basic question as to the efficiency of reservations as a tool for the upliftment of the backward sections of the society. If after 60 years of independence the Govt. of India has been unable to uplift these segments of the society, then the price of that failure cannot be paid by the people of India. Reservations should be based on economic criteria rather than caste. Else we will have the ridiculous situation whereby the progeny of Ram Vilas Paswan, Meira Kumar, Sharad Yadav etc claiming reservations when their parents have amassed ill gotten wealth by looting the public exchequer. Government needs to ensure free, compulsory & quality education for all the children of India till Class 12.
The Govt. of India deducts education cess from the hard working honest tax payers of India. It should answer as to how this money has been used by the HRD ministry under the idiotic & brain dead Arjun Singh. Why is that none of the politicians send their children to be educated to the innumerable govt. schools in the country? Why do they not have their children educated in the vernacular medium? Why is that the govt. schools in the country are in
India's enemies like China & Pakistan need not invest in expensive weaponry to target & destroy India. It is being done for them by the short sighted & selfish politicians like Sonia Gandhi, Arjun Singh, Ram Vilas Paswan, Meira Kumar, Karunanidhi, Anbumani Ramadoss, Prakash Karat, Sitaram Yechury, A.B. Bardhan, D Raja, Ashok Singhal, Pravin Togadia, Narendra Modi, Bal Thackeray etc. These people seem to be on the payroll of the foreign powers judging by their actions designed to harm India.
Reservations were designed to last only for a period of ten years. But now the politicians seem ready to perpetuate them forever to appeal to their vote banks. Now retrograde & self serving politicians like Meira Kumar, Ram Vilas Paswan & the lousy Communists want to have them extended to the private sector. Nobody seems ready to look into the basic question as to the efficiency of reservations as a tool for the upliftment of the backward sections of the society. If after 60 years of independence the Govt. of India has been unable to uplift these segments of the society, then the price of that failure cannot be paid by the people of India. Reservations should be based on economic criteria rather than caste. Else we will have the ridiculous situation whereby the progeny of Ram Vilas Paswan, Meira Kumar, Sharad Yadav etc claiming reservations when their parents have amassed ill gotten wealth by looting the public exchequer. Government needs to ensure free, compulsory & quality education f
RE:Tit for Tat
by A P on Aug 08, 2007 06:08 PM Permalink
The Govt. of India deducts education cess from the hard working honest tax payers of India. It should answer as to how this money has been used by the HRD ministry under the idiotic & brain dead Arjun Singh. Why is that none of the politicians send their children to be educated to the innumerable govt. schools in the country? Why do they not have their children educated in the vernacular medium? Why is that the govt. schools in the country are in such pathetic state? Why is it that even the poor & backward people if given a chance would prefer to send their children to private english medium schools if given a chance rather than a govt. or vernacular one? Whom should the State subsidise, a poor so called upper caste student or a rich OBC one?
Looking at the morass in the education sector in India & the way politicians are screwing it up further, it looks like the only solution is what the communists would surely admire ( ie. Stalinist solution) ; send all these self serving, casteist & communal politicians to reducation camps in the most inhospitable areas of India or have them shot.
RE:Tit for Tat
by Bhanu on Aug 09, 2007 12:11 PM Permalink
It is heart breaking to see Indians killing the Indians, leave apart national growth and security, our thinking has still not grown, its the same when British people came , infact people like us do not deserve independence.
First we fought on Hindu -Muslim divide, then we fight for Brahmin-Dalit divide, Further, its gonna be state/region divide and then it would be my house ur house divide....we have very low morals and we say that we are proud of Indian Culture and Heritage...is this our culture??
RE:Tit for Tat
by Neo Intellectual on Aug 08, 2007 11:47 AM Permalink
Hey fire desire, grow up man, 'an eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind'!
Going by your logic, why restrict tit for tat only to Brahmins? See for yourself how funny this logic is when extrapolated to other things : 1. India should somehow suppress Britain because the British suppressed India for hundreds of years.
2. All hindus should take revenge on muslims because of the atrocities committed by zealot muslim rulers like Aurangzeb
3.Israel should declare war on Germany for the holocaust
4. All countries in central and south asia should take revenge on Greece for what Alexander did.
5. India should attack China and Mongolia for what Chengez Kahn did
......... you can imagine the long list of 'tit for tat'.
Can such primitive logic be the basis for state policy?
RE:Tit for Tat
by anup kumar singh on Aug 08, 2007 12:16 PM Permalink
wheel always keeps rotating, all time will come. May not be in your life time, but it is bound to come. And, this cycle continues, only thing is some cycle time is slow, some cycle time is very high. Dont be greedy for seeing urself all the things which happned in 2000, or even more years.
RE:RE:Tit for Tat
by ssddssdd on Aug 07, 2007 11:14 PM Permalink
I fully agree with human, brahmins do not suppress or exploit, except in movies. It is actually so called OBCs who suppress dalits. But of course rural India socializes in terms of caste, which we need to change. But, how do you plan to change that while focusing on dividing the reservation pie ?
RE:Tit for Tat
by om on Aug 08, 2007 05:15 AM Permalink
Well Inadvertently Human, your being a Brahmin, fully explains your position and why you have chosen to turn a blind eye on the oppression. To make way for Brahmins, the Dalits had to attach a broom to their backs, so they swept away even their footsteps in case Brahmins tread on it. Why do you think, scavengers - people cleaning toilets are mostly Dalits, you think they chose it as an ideal profession. Come on!! open you eyes and stop letting you birth status challenge you intellect.
Reminds me of what Bernard Shaw said about democracy : "In democracy, it is your vote that counts. In feudalism, it is your count that votes!!"
I think India is headed towards a feudal society, thanks to our politicians and 'progressive' media. What else can one say, when caste based reservations are provided inspite of irrefutable data suggesting against it? For instance consider the economic condition of Brahmins (so called upper caste) in Karnataka, measured in per capita income. This information was tabled in the assembly by none other than finance minister of the state.
Per capita income of various communities as stated by the Karnataka finance minister in the state assembly: Christians Rs 1,562, Vokkaligas Rs 914, Muslims Rs 794, Scheduled castes Rs 680, Scheduled Tribes Rs 577 and Brahmins Rs 537.
How can we abolish quota system when it is an Integral part of Hindu Dharma. Brahmins held the topmost positions, controlled all the knowledge and enjoyed special quota for thousands of years. The poor dalits were outcast of the mainstream and had to do all the dirty work for the other castes and theirs was the most unwanted quota which they could never get rid of. And this entire system has come from the books. Now by abolishing Quota are we not abolishing Hindutva. And then think of what will happen of BJP, which is trying so hard to make this nation a Hindu Rashtra and keeps on singing about Hindutva in every elections. So for BJP to succeed, Hindutva has to succeed and for that Quota system has to exist. And then Arjun singh is trying hard for quota to exist and grow. All BJP supporters should vote for him since he is contributing towards BJP ajenda.
